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Michael Angelo 03-25-11 01:14 PM

This FORK is not BENT......
 
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"Forks not Bent" .At least that's what the seller says. What do you guys think??


http://cgi.ebay.com/One-Of-Nishiki-s...04065598806573

zigmin 03-25-11 01:16 PM

looks kinda bent...

ScottRyder 03-25-11 01:19 PM

Lens barrel distortion perhaps .. the head tube looks like it has a curve also.

Scott

matt0ne 03-25-11 01:20 PM

It does seem like some visual distortion. But if that was the case, why doesn't the seller post a better pic?

Ex Pres 03-25-11 01:23 PM

I'd believe 'em. He seems to at least know something about what he is selling, and has good feedback.

But I will say that he should have retaken the pictures before he put them up on his listing. I would have.

cudak888 03-25-11 01:24 PM

The blades were brazed so that the tubing tapers to the blade's centerline; in which case, the front surface of the blade will bend inwards, and the rear will bend outwards. Neither edge will run parallel with the headtube. This effect is amplified on forks that have crowns that don't have a raised shoreline, such as these.

French builders were quite adept at worsening this effect by brazing their blades so that the rear surface of the blade would run parallel with the headtube, making both the tube's centerline and front taper angle rearwards of the headtube line. Yech. Most of the "bent fork!"-crying fools on this forum couldn't look at most constructeur frames without saying it.

-Kurt

ColonelJLloyd 03-25-11 01:24 PM

The seller explains the visual distortion and assures that it is not bent. He has 100% feedback with over 800 transactions. What more do you need?

That is a clean machine. I like it.

Roll-Monroe-Co 03-25-11 01:26 PM

The Comp II was marketed as having the unique combination of an ultra-compact wheelbase and "12 full inches of trail for rock-solid stability at speed." Of course, it flopped because no one was able to get it up to 20mph before wiping out.

jebejava 03-25-11 01:27 PM

As a photographer, I'm quite sure it's not bent. It's pin cushion distortion from a poorly corrected zoom lens at it's widest setting and is most evident when there are straight horizontal and vertical lines near the edges of the image rectangle. You can see the same distortion in the top tube, seat stays and the table edge at bottom right.

Roll-Monroe-Co 03-25-11 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 12410633)
The seller explains the visual distortion and assures that it is not bent. He has 100% feedback with over 800 transactions. What more do you need?

That is a clean machine. I like it.

Awww. I liked my explanation better. :(

ScottRyder 03-25-11 01:28 PM

It sure is a sweet Nishiki ..

Scott

southpawboston 03-25-11 01:47 PM

Beautiful frameset... and my size! Hmm... N+1...

Michael Angelo 03-25-11 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 12410763)
Beautiful frameset... and my size! Hmm... N+1...


Yep It's my size too, That's why I was looking at it. I'm not an expert at looking at defects. I also looked at the sellers ratings, really positive. Now I've ruined any chance of getting it at a low price....

Mike

:andrew 03-25-11 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by jebejava (Post 12410656)
As a photographer, I'm quite sure it's not bent. It's pin cushion distortion from a poorly corrected zoom lens at it's widest setting and is most evident when there are straight horizontal and vertical lines near the edges of the image rectangle. You can see the same distortion in the top tube, seat stays and the table edge at bottom right.

I agree. I do photography as well.

canyoneagle 03-25-11 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by jebejava (Post 12410656)
As a photographer, I'm quite sure it's not bent. It's pin cushion distortion from a poorly corrected zoom lens at it's widest setting and is most evident when there are straight horizontal and vertical lines near the edges of the image rectangle. You can see the same distortion in the top tube, seat stays and the table edge at bottom right.

+1 as a former hobbyist photographer. Distortion, not bent.
I love that frame, BTW. Just my size, too - mwahahahahaaaaaaaa ;)

Perfect candidate for a Superbe Pro build.

gaucho777 03-25-11 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Angelo (Post 12410813)
Now I've ruined any chance of getting it at a low price....

Mike


Originally Posted by Michael Angelo (Post 12410565)
"Forks not Bent" .At least that's what the seller says. What do you guys think??


I'm going to look at this frameset which is available from a local seller who is making it available to me, an nobody else, so don't get any funny ideas...

There, IFIFY.

AngelGendy 03-25-11 02:29 PM

I always bend my forks, it makes the bike more responsive.....

cudak888 03-25-11 02:34 PM

P.S.: In addition the comments I already made about the fork, it doesn't help when the lens has a mild fish-eye to it.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1301080435

VS.

http://www.jaysmarine.com/nishiki_nobentfork.jpg

See it now?

-Kurt

Maddox 03-25-11 02:44 PM

+1 to all comments about lens distortion, possibly a fisheye style lens being used.

CV-6 03-25-11 03:03 PM

If it is bent, then so is the head tube. Distortion resulting from using a wide angle lens.

cudak888 03-25-11 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by CV-6 (Post 12411153)
If it is bent, then so is the head tube. Distortion resulting from using a wide angle lens.

+1

Look at the top tube in the seller's photo. Bulged upwards. Headtube? Bulged forward. Seat tube is bulged to the left.

It's distortion. End of story.

-Kurt

Capecodder 03-25-11 03:34 PM

Top tube is bent as well.......

cudak888 03-25-11 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Capecodder (Post 12411308)
Top tube is bent as well.......

That's not funny.

-Kurt

Capecodder 03-25-11 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 12411406)
That's not funny.

-Kurt

:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2: I had to, I could not resist.

ScottRyder 03-25-11 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 12411162)
End of story.

I think the end of the story will be what it sells for.

Scott


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