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photostudent 04-17-11 07:39 AM

Sticking with your word was the right thing to do. However bikes are always coming up on Craigs so next time wait for a better picture. The humidity here in Raleigh can really tear up any bike left outside or in a crawl space. If you are not a restorer and don't need the parts just put it back on Craigs, (with an accurate description). It should fetch $40-$50 for parts. If it is just the stuck seatpost holding you up I can get about 95% of them out. Just let me know.

thenomad 04-17-11 07:52 AM

You're going to get your C&V card pulled for not being able to resurrect that bike! Looks like a good score to me!

frantik 04-17-11 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by photostudent (Post 12518205)
Sticking with your word was the right thing to do.

if the seller misrepresented the item then personally i don't think there is anything wrong with saying that you won't buy it.. hell, even if they didn't misrepresent the item, there's nothing wrong with deciding that you don't want to buy. obviously don't go around wasting people's time, but if I show up and realize the item is not worth the $, I'm not giving up the cash..

ahson 04-17-11 09:41 AM

I have no problem of these bikes and it doesn't look too bad to me. Many bikes that I scored on CL were in similar or maybe a bit better shape :). I usually tear it down, clean different components at a time, wax/buff/elbow grease whatever you want, repack the BB and/or headset, put them back together. You will end up with a very nice, working machine. I am not sure about others, but I enjoy to bring a bad shaped bike back to life. If you have no spare time at all then flip it for $20. Good luck

realestvin7 04-17-11 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Grim (Post 12518132)
Thats pretty bad but still better then the Dave Scott I had. The seat post lug was Swiss cheese as wall the cable stop on the chain stay.

I paid $20 for it sold the frame for $20 to a guy that was wanting to learn brazing and was going to try to repair it. Sold the wheels for $20. Kept tte 42cm Nitto 155's for one of my other bikes. Have the derailleurs, they function but ugly. Swapped the 105 single pivots for a set of double pivots on a bike I was flipping. So I was actually able to make a few bucks on it.

Your bike if there is no structural issues I would get it functional and make it a beater. Wouldnt be pretty but may ride great. Maybe a rattle can paint job but the patina is kind of cool if you can keep it from becoming a safety issue.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...2&d=1279402271

I can't believe your setpost came out to be honest. Geeze.

cehowardGS 04-17-11 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by realestvin7 (Post 12517594)
I'd be down to take some parts off that rustbucket...if they are able to be removed. Lol. I could use a few things.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g..._Gran_Prix.jpg

Dam man, I am sick of you!! :D That is exactly what I thought I was getting. Wouldn't mind a little messed up.. But dam...

Anyway, your bike is the chit!! :thumb:

Hope I can get this one there...

cehowardGS 04-17-11 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 12517936)
ouch :lol:

btw never hand over the money until you see the merchandise mang...

I learned my lesson.. And I think I got off pretty cheap... Even the feedback and info I got on this bike has been worth more than the $70..
Won't happened again...:)

cehowardGS 04-17-11 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by thenomad (Post 12518226)
You're going to get your C&V card pulled for not being able to resurrect that bike! Looks like a good score to me!

Good Point, and I was acting like a real C&Ver too with my long sig,and few bikes...:)

You are right on with that one.. Thanks :beer:

realestvin7 04-17-11 01:42 PM

Thanks for the compliment on my Grand Prix. You dig into yours yet?

frantik 04-17-11 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by cehowardGS (Post 12519233)
I learned my lesson.. And I think I got off pretty cheap... Even the feedback and info I got on this bike has been worth more than the $70..
Won't happened again...:)

great perspective :) and yeah i looked closer and you got an ok price.. nothing to be excited about but if you use it to learn how to wrench on, even if you just tear it down and sell the parts you should break even

the first couple bikes i worked on were junkers that i didn't have to worry about messing up.. bought the first one for $50 with a broken chain.. didn't realize at the time it was a total POS.. 1970s xmart bike boom level .. the rear cogs were made from one solid piece of steel, and the middle cogs were all crooked, rear wheel was all loose and shaky, same with the 1 piece cottered crank/bottom bracket. steel 27 rims.. i learned how to fix the back hub and used some pliers to fix the chain and sold it for $60. learned a lot and still made $10. but i did some have tools on hand already.. nothing bike specific but some adjustable wrenches, set of metric allen keys and metric socket wrenches will allow you to do most things on a bike besides remove the drive train elements


edit: also, this is a little funny.. have two tabs open in my firefox:

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9397/unledyv.png

Grim 04-17-11 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by realestvin7 (Post 12518823)
I can't believe your setpost came out to be honest. Geeze.

Took 2 weeks of soaking and I about flipped the work bench my vice is attached too a couple of times. :lol:

cudak888 04-17-11 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 12519615)
edit: also, this is a little funny.. have two tabs open in my firefox:

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9397/unledyv.png

I'll give this thread ten minutes before someone from SS/FG posts a Ganon joke here.


Originally Posted by Grim (Post 12520594)
Took 2 weeks of soaking and I about flipped the work bench my vice is attached too a couple of times. :lol:

I'm more surprised that the ears didn't disintegrate; there is a frightening amount of corrosion on them.

-Kurt

realestvin7 04-18-11 11:29 PM

Update?

noglider 04-19-11 12:47 AM

Yeah, you really didn't get burned that badly. I mean, think of the guys who pay top dollar to buy a Gios or some other classic, to find out later it's a forgery.

And there are lots of things you could do with the bike or the parts. And since you're going to wrench, you can make all the mistakes you like, because if you wreck this wreck, what will you have on your hands? A wreck! And if you don't wreck it, it will be a nice, working bike. So you have the perfect place to start.

And I don't think it looks that bad. I've seen much worse.

I sold that line of bikes back in the day. I don't remember the line all that well. Did this model really come with 531 tubing? That's the thing that I'm slightly suspicious of.

realestvin7 04-19-11 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12526112)
Yeah, you really didn't get burned that badly. I mean, think of the guys who pay top dollar to buy a Gios or some other classic, to find out later it's a forgery.
And there are lots of things you could do with the bike or the parts. And since you're going to wrench, you can make all the mistakes you like, because if you wreck this wreck, what will you have on your hands? A wreck! And if you don't wreck it, it will be a nice, working bike. So you have the perfect place to start.
And I don't think it looks that bad. I've seen much worse.
I sold that line of bikes back in the day. I don't remember the line all that well. Did this model really come with 531 tubing? That's the thing that I'm slightly suspicious of.

Yes, they were Reynolds 531. Go check out Kurt's site and look at the '86 catalog scans.

noglider 04-19-11 01:19 AM

No, I take your word for it. Thanks for the clarification. So that reinforces my feeling that Howard (is that his name?) didn't really get burned. He just paid a bit more than we'd advise, but it's not a total loss at all.

realestvin7 04-19-11 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12526149)
No, I take your word for it. Thanks for the clarification. So that reinforces my feeling that Howard (is that his name?) didn't really get burned. He just paid a bit more than we'd advise, but it's not a total loss at all.

Nope. His deal really isn't so bad.

cehowardGS 04-19-11 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by realestvin7 (Post 12519302)
Thanks for the compliment on my Grand Prix. You dig into yours yet?

Nope, I am a mini-vaction (5 days), with the Raleigh Prestige,Raleigh Competition and the wifee.. Soon as I get back, going to get into it..;)

cehowardGS 04-19-11 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12526149)
No, I take your word for it. Thanks for the clarification. So that reinforces my feeling that Howard (is that his name?) didn't really get burned. He just paid a bit more than we'd advise, but it's not a total loss at all.

You are right about that. If I get thing thing going, it is going to be a winner.. ;)

canyoneagle 04-19-11 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 12526112)
And I don't think it looks that bad. I've seen much worse.

Me too. It's really just a flesh wound. ;)

dwellman 04-19-11 09:57 AM

I'd a paid $75 for it no problem. . .

dwellman 04-19-11 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 12527401)
Me too. It's really just a flesh wound. ;)

Ha!

BassNotBass 04-19-11 10:23 AM

I don't think that's such a bad deal. The frame looks like it'll be quite a bit of work but all in all I bet it'll clean up nicely.

Just be glad that the handlebar wrap wasn't cloth. This past Saturday I worked on an old 80s era Raleigh that is owned by a hardcore rider who uses the bike as his main mode of transportation and seems to be perpetually bathed in his own sweat. There was rust and corrosion aplenty all over the bike but the worst of it was the old fraying cloth handlebar wrap that reminded me of mummy wrap I'd seen pictures of in National Geographic and smelled like the part of underwear that usually gets lodged in the crack. I considered calling a hazmat team. The worst part is that he must not feel that replacing the wrap was necessary since it wasn't on the work order.

Chris Chicago 04-19-11 02:52 PM

the 105 brake calipers go for 25-30 on ebay regularly. levers about the same.

but cehoward, you should def take your first swing at restoration. as long as you have the patience for it bc you certainly have the enthusiasm for cv bikes

tugrul 04-19-11 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by realestvin7 (Post 12517594)

Weird, that bike with a wheel set like those are sitting in a store front here in Portsmouth, NH for $600.


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