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LeicaLad 05-01-11 07:05 PM

If the Cinelli 64 is coming back into production, from where will we be able to purchase them?

Thanks.

THEJAPINO 05-01-11 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by sjpitts (Post 12580241)
Did I miss where you told us what kind of bars those are?

Bontrager ssr vr-c. I polished out the centers. Super comfy
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f6...o/f7726570.jpg

Mike Mills 05-01-11 11:49 PM

Don't you think the rider's size and age figures into which bar they like. For example -

It might be that many smaller guys like bar X, whereas many larger guys like bar Y.

Younger, small guys like bar X but older, small guys like bar Z. Older, large guys like bar X, whereas younger, large guys like bar Y.

Then, there's the people who like a bar because of the graphics stamped into it, despite whether it fits them well.

Without this kind of information, this is just another "here's my personal favorite" thread. There's no way to make sense of it.

mkeller234 05-02-11 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mike Mills (Post 12582406)
Then, there's the people who like a bar because of the graphics stamped into it, despite whether it fits them well.

Those would be the GB "map of England" bars. They are narrow and have deep drops... I think they are pretty AND pretty uncomfortable... but I keep them!

Ohhh, pretty:
http://velospace.org/files/RGSGBbars.JPG

rothenfield1 05-02-11 01:06 AM

Nitto Randos on a touring bike (I'm not sure if anyone has equaled them)
Nitto Noodles on a sport touring bike (I've just gotten them and think they're cool)
Nitto Olympiade 115 on a road bike (Theses have a really classy drop for a road bike)

As for modern, I like shallow drops.

Sixty Fiver 05-02-11 01:15 AM

I love my GB bars... like to set my bars a little higher and spend more time in and climb out of the drops so they are just perfect for this.

Also like my Sakae and Nitto rando bars a great deal.

old's'cool 05-02-11 06:19 PM

I too am an admirer of the GB randos... from a distance. I've never had the pleasure to hold a set in my hands, but I love the way they look - perfect!

canyoneagle 05-02-11 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by THEJAPINO (Post 12582107)
Bontrager ssr vr-c. I polished out the centers. Super comfy
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f6...o/f7726570.jpg

Those look alot like the FSA wing compact, which is what I have on my primary commuter. Great bars.

rhm 05-03-11 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 12582431)
Those would be the GB "map of England" bars. They are narrow and have deep drops... I think they are pretty AND pretty uncomfortable... but I keep them!

Ohhh, pretty:
http://velospace.org/files/RGSGBbars.JPG

Ah, funny thing about human nature. I had a pair of those bars, and I too found them uncomfortable. So I passed them on. Now I only remember how pretty they were.

old's'cool 05-03-11 07:10 PM

...Reminds me of... never mind!

mkeller234 05-04-11 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 12587926)
Ah, funny thing about human nature. I had a pair of those bars, and I too found them uncomfortable. So I passed them on. Now I only remember how pretty they were.

Actually, the bars in the picture are the ones that you owned! I can't remember if we traded or I bought them from you... but they were definitely yours. I keep that stem up pretty high which helps a little bit... still not really the best for comfort. That bike lives in an underused, dust free world so comfort isn't all that important.

rhm 05-04-11 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 12592675)
Actually, the bars in the picture are the ones that you owned! I can't remember if we traded or I bought them from you... but they were definitely yours. I keep that stem up pretty high which helps a little bit... still not really the best for comfort. That bike lives in an underused, dust free world so comfort isn't all that important.

Yeah, I know... and every time I see them, I am glad to see them on a bike where they look just right; and I kinda miss them, so I have to remind myself that I never liked using them!

nlerner 05-04-11 08:33 AM

I think those GB Ventoux bars came in a few different bends or at least that's what I've had and seen. This 60s catalog pages gives at least one version of the specs:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_G...00/GB_bars.jpg

Neal

canyoneagle 05-04-11 08:43 AM

I've noticed a pretty tremendous price variation on the Nitto Noodles. The regular (44 and under) bars typically go for $45-50 most places, but Rivendell breaks the price record at $70.
The heat treated bars seem to average $80-90, and, oddly enough, Rivendell breaks the price barrier (low price this time) at $75. Kinda weird.
VO seems to have the largest price differential, with one of the lowest prices on the non-heat treated bars, and one of the highest prices on the heat treated models.

Just some observations - point being "make sure to look around and/or ask about price matching if you are considering the Noodle bars"

due ruote 05-04-11 09:14 AM

http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/roa...-bar-geometry/

I found this link to be useful in comparing various bars. For years I overlooked the impact of bar reach on fit, focusing too much on the stem length alone.

I recently installed a set of Nitto 135 randos after riding nothing but Cinelli bars for decades. Pretty different; I think I like them but wouldn't want them on every bike.

Cinelli - the longer reach of the 66 is more comfortable to me when I'm on the hoods, but I prefer the shallower drop of the 64.

Like others said, it's almost like selecting a saddle. Pretty individualized, not only to the rider but to the rest of the setup on a particular bike.

canyoneagle 05-04-11 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by due ruote (Post 12593713)
http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/roa...-bar-geometry/

I found this link to be useful in comparing various bars. For years I overlooked the impact of bar reach on fit, focusing too much on the stem length alone.

That is a great link - thank you!!!!!

I agree - so much of this is reliant on individual preferences and needs.

Skankingbiker 03-26-14 07:49 AM

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Probably not old enough to be C&V, but it was my first "real bike" 11 years ago. 2003 GAry Fisher Wahoo. Midge bars; cane creek levers; microshift thumbie; sugino crank; shimano LSX "low normal' R.D. Thudbuster seat post, and custom modified Brooks B17, sliced/diced, and tied to emulate an Imperial model.

I plan on using this for an upcoming 2 day gravel grinder.
[IMG]http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4bbf8d27.jpg[/IMG]

kunsunoke 03-26-14 01:00 PM

Current:

Trek 600 => OEM Belleri drops

Peugeot PX-10 => Sakae Ringyo world champion

Bridgestone RADAC => Nitto 178

Maruishi RX-5 =>Nitto 115

Tommasini Super => Cinelli 64 (stem's too long, though)

Schwinn LeTour fixed => Nitto mustache (ironic)

Bianchi Boardwalk gravel/cross conversion => Italmanburi pseudo-ergo.

My current faves are the Nitto bars and the Cinelli 64.

jimmuller 03-26-14 01:12 PM

I know this wasn't listed as an option but I tried SR World Randonneur bars on my Raleigh because I had them and GD came with GB rando bars. After a few rides I removed them because I didn't like how they made my wrists bend. I spend a lot of time riding the hoods and I like to brake by rotating my hands downward. The rando bar changed it to rotating a little outward too. It never felt right.

williwoods 03-26-14 01:32 PM

One more vote for Nitto Noodle bars.

I just put a 46cm noodle on my '74 Raleigh Professional and a 44cm noodle on the Wife's Litespeed.

Just head and shoulders better than ANY drop bar I have tried. They are very handsome, don't really look out of place on a C&V bike and have what I think are at least 1 more usable hand positions than most classic racing drop bars. My Wife also swears by hers too.

We both came from Cinelli Bars. not sure which ones I had, she had champion del mondo bars.

If you want to find the best price on the heat treated Noodles, look on amazon. I did really well there.

I will share a pic of my rig soon. Just waiting for a shorter stem for my bike (going with a technomic deluxe from ben's cycle) so that it is perfectly dialed. I had to get a shorter stem cause of the longer reach on the Noodles which is nice cause you can leave your hood position where you normally like it, but then the upright position is just a tad more upright which I think is one of the best features of these bars.

Velocivixen 03-26-14 01:41 PM

I have the aforementioned Bontrager short & shallow reach bar on my non vintage Surly Cross Check and was a great improvement. You've given me the idea to remove the black annodizing. Anyway nice comfortable bar IMO.

rootboy 03-26-14 03:24 PM

Cinelli Giro d' Italia. I like em.


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