What's the best freewheel?
My 1986 Shimano 600 rear hub needs a new freewheel. What should I look for? It has 6 speeds right now, should I go up to 7, or would that mean getting a new chain? Should I replace the chain anyway, seeing how the chainrings are also new for the bike? I know IRD makes a nice freewheel, any other brands I should look into? Thanks
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If you can find an old Sachs freewheel, those are really nice.
Are you looking to go indexed? Even the cheap shimano or sunrace ones work really well. If it were me, I'd probably replace the chain since you are replacing the rings and freewheel. |
I did the 6-7 upgrade with IRD and am very happy. I also upgraded the chain to a SRAM 870. The newer FW are a good upgrade in shift quality.
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Mechanically speaking, Shimano 600 and Dura-Ace freewheels are as good as they get. SunTour Winner/New Winner are a close second. IMHO, Zeus freewheels have the best design, but are pretty scarce these days. Sachs and IRD are more modern freewheels with decent reputations.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 12587055)
...IMHO, Zeus freewheels have the best design, but are pretty scarce these days...
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White industries in California makes the Best Freewheels , but only in 1 or 2 speed..
older stuff.. Light alloys, aluminum , Campag, and the Titanium, Zeus are by the nature of the metals used, softer. .... |
Itch, I don't know. I can tell you I've never successfully removed a Regina from a hub, but never had any problem with a Suntour.
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It sounds like most of you recommend a used freewheel over a modern remake? Even though it doesn't have shifting ramps?
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Originally Posted by max5480
(Post 12587425)
It sounds like most of you recommend a used freewheel over a modern remake? Even though it doesn't have shifting ramps?
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Originally Posted by max5480
(Post 12587425)
It sounds like most of you recommend a used freewheel over a modern remake? Even though it doesn't have shifting ramps?
No, I usually pick up new gold 14-28 Suntours on ebay for fair prices. I don't know from shifting ramps and never needed one. Modern remakes may be fine. I have no experience. I tend to stick with what I know. |
I just looked at my 6 speed Shimano UG freewheel and it even has twisted teeth to aid shifting. It's a nice shifting freewheel but it's not as nice sounding as others that I have.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5185/...07540ecd_z.jpg |
I have always thought that the internals on Suntour freewheels was better and they were longer wearing while Shimano has the best tooth design and is probably the nicest shifting freewheel out there.
The quietest and smoothest are probably Regina and Sachs freewheels are nice in every respect. |
Originally Posted by mkeller234
(Post 12587440)
Old Shimano HG freewheels have shaped teeth and shift very nice. I prefer Shimano over suntour because the splined remover tool is a superior design to the 2 and 4 notch suntours.
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Originally Posted by khatfull
(Post 12587507)
If you lock the freewheel tool in with a skewer (then back off 1mm or so to allow the FW to spin) you'll never strip or munge a Suntour freewheel.
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I would replace the old 600 UG freewheel with a modern Shimano HG freewheel. You get the best of both...best shifting performance and according to Sheldon Brown, the latest Shimano freewheel body is the best on the market.
If you have a remover tool for the 600, I bet it'll work on a new Shimano. |
Ditto on the Shimano Hyper Glide Stuff! Inexpensive and well made. I switched from vintage Suntour (still good stuff) and did not look back. They just shift reliably! You can get a 14-28 easily for under $20.
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Or you can send your original freewheel to me. I bet it still has 10-20 more years left in it. Any pictures or can you tell us why it needs to be replaced?
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Can you find the Shimano HG freewheels in 14-24 or 13-24 (6 speed)?
I have a Shimano 600 and am using it now, but prefer my SunTour New Winners a touch over this. IIRC, the Shimano is UG. Agreed on the remover design, though I don't have problems getting my SunTours off (skewer method as well). |
Originally Posted by mkeller234
(Post 12587549)
That is what I do, I even have the Suntour branded remover tool. I can remove them fine... but I still think it's an inferior design compared to the Shimano.
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Originally Posted by OldRoadman
(Post 12587612)
Ditto on the Shimano Hyper Glide Stuff! Inexpensive and well made. I switched from vintage Suntour (still good stuff) and did not look back. They just shift reliably! You can get a 14-28 easily for under $20.
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
(Post 12587549)
That is what I do, I even have the Suntour branded remover tool. I can remove them fine... but I still think it's an inferior design compared to the Shimano.
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Actually, my freewheel does work fine, but it has the super low gear that I want to switch out for a 24 tooth so that transition into my lowest gear will be smoother. Can I replace just the last cog or do I need to replace the entire freewheel? Thanks
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Originally Posted by max5480
(Post 12588784)
Actually, my freewheel does work fine, but it has the super low gear that I want to switch out for a 24 tooth so that transition into my lowest gear will be smoother. Can I replace just the last cog or do I need to replace the entire freewheel? Thanks
You will just need the right replacement cog. |
This is a timely thread.
I'm looking to upgrade my old 14-28 five speed to a new 13-28 seven speed. I was looking at Niagara and they have a Sunrace version and the Shimano for around $15 the Shimano is a buck or two more, no big deal. Spacing is not a problem but I will probably need a new chain as well. Any opinions on which is the better quality/make. The site says the Sunrace is HG Shimano compatible. |
Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy
(Post 12587301)
They're really light (thinking the 2000 freewheels), and cool 'cause they're ZEUS (I really like the 2000 stuff)... But aren't they a little soft, and quick wearing..?
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