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Old 11-03-17, 08:14 PM
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You can true wheels without a wheel stand. If your basic bike toolkit can get into the hubs, headset and the bottom bracket, there’s nothing you can’t do for this bike to overhaul it. Those are pretty much the only tool-specific parts when overhauling a bike.

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Here is my Trek 613 that I picked up a little over a year ago. The first pic is how it looked when I got it and the second is how it looks now. I still need to do a little more to it but its finally ready to go for a ride.



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That looks great!
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Trek with Campagnolo derailleur cable routes???

I've got a 1981 Trek 750, serial number 002345. Interestingly, I found it in a free pile on the side of the road a few months back. I'll post pictures as soon as I'm done putting it back together, but I noticed that it has "Campagnolo" stamped in the rear derailleur cable route on the bottom bracket. I looked on vintage-trek.com and didn't see any mention of that. Anyone know what the deal is?
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I've got a 1981 Trek 750, serial number 002345. Interestingly, I found it in a free pile on the side of the road a few months back. I'll post pictures as soon as I'm done putting it back together, but I noticed that it has "Campagnolo" stamped in the rear derailleur cable route on the bottom bracket. I looked on vintage-trek.com and didn't see any mention of that. Anyone know what the deal is?
Not sure what it is you're describing, a pic of that detail would be helpful. Here's the bottom bracket of my 82 757, no Campag stamp here:

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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
Not sure what it is you're describing, a pic of that detail would be helpful. Here's the bottom bracket of my 82 757, no Campag stamp here:
Hey Chris!

My guess it's the brazed on cable guide on the top of the Bottom Bracket.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Hey Chris!

My guess it's the brazed on cable guide on the top of the Bottom Bracket.
Hi Dave!

That's a good bet, I suppose the 750's didn't have the routing underneath like mine.
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Old 12-09-17, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
Hi Dave!

That's a good bet, I suppose the 750's didn't have the routing underneath like mine.
Or the previous owner didn't trust all that fancy, modern "under the bottom bracket" cable routing...


That 757 sounds fast!

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Originally Posted by Descartes Ghost View Post
I've got a 1981 Trek 750, serial number 002345. Interestingly, I found it in a free pile on the side of the road a few months back. I'll post pictures as soon as I'm done putting it back together, but I noticed that it has "Campagnolo" stamped in the rear derailleur cable route on the bottom bracket. I looked on vintage-trek.com and didn't see any mention of that. Anyone know what the deal is?
You're referring to cable guides like these, brazed to the top of the bottom bracket shell? They were standard on high-end Trek frames until the Signicast shell with the cast in grooves under the shell came into production around 1983. Not all of them were Campagnolo guides; unmarked ones from Cinelli, Shimano, etc. were freely swapped in depending on availability.


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Thanks John, the RD guide on my 750 looks exactly like the one you've got there, and as far as I can tell, the FD guide is unmarked.
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
Hi Dave!

That's a good bet, I suppose the 750's didn't have the routing underneath like mine.
According to vintage-trek.com, they started routing cables under the BB in 1982. Mine's 1981 and has the guides brazed on the top of the BB.
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My '81 95X came to me with the unbranded ones. The Campagnolo units are more much more robust. It now wheres a Camagnolo FD guide, and an unbranded RD guide.
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Just another 1986 Trek Elance 400. Picked up this bike about six months ago with mostly original components. Shortly after, I came across a mid-80’s Univega with the full Shimano 600 EX group. It was in mint condition , and at an unbelievable price. The Univega was too small for me. So, a Trekframe in Reynolds 531 + Shimano 600 EX group = a pretty sweet ride! I was able to find a set of 600EX aero brake levers to finish it off. As others have previously mentioned, the Trek paint schemes from this era are really great. The metallic black with silver head tube, the silver lettering outlined in red with gold shadowing, it just pops!!
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Just another 1986 Trek Elance 400. Picked up this bike about six months ago with mostly original components. Shortly after, I came across a mid-80’s Univega with the full Shimano 600 EX group. It was in mint condition , and at an unbelievable price. The Univega was too small for me. So, a Trekframe in Reynolds 531 + Shimano 600 EX group = a pretty sweet ride! I was able to find a set of 600EX aero brake levers to finish it off. As others have previously mentioned, the Trek paint schemes from this era are really great. The metallic black with silver head tube, the silver lettering outlined in red with gold shadowing, it just pops!!
That came out great. I'd like to do the same with my somewhat-mostly-original black 1986 Trek 400 (pic just posted in the December-is-black-bike-month thread) which I've been riding since 1986. Mine's in pretty good condition, certainly not as good as yours.
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Beautiful build. Frame and components are in amazing condition!
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That came out great. I'd like to do the same with my somewhat-mostly-original black 1986 Trek 400 (pic just posted in the December-is-black-bike-month thread) which I've been riding since 1986. Mine's in pretty good condition, certainly not as good as yours.

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Beautiful build. Frame and components are in amazing condition!


Thanks! bikor, your 400 is nice. What would you want to change? Thanks for the reminder, a good reason to post another pic in the December-is-black-bike-month thread!!
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Thanks! bikor, your 400 is nice. What would you want to change? Thanks for the reminder, a good reason to post another pic in the December-is-black-bike-month thread!!
Some type of period-appropriate component level upgrade as you did probably. I’d keep my Sugino compact double as is, hubs are already Dura-Ace.

Your bike belongs in the December thread! I’ve loved that black and silver scheme all these years. Did you clear coat or just clean and wax for that shine, and is that frame as scratch-free as it appears?
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Originally Posted by BocaJr View Post
Just another 1986 Trek Elance 400. Picked up this bike about six months ago with mostly original components. Shortly after, I came across a mid-80’s Univega with the full Shimano 600 EX group. It was in mint condition , and at an unbelievable price. The Univega was too small for me. So, a Trekframe in Reynolds 531 + Shimano 600 EX group = a pretty sweet ride! I was able to find a set of 600EX aero brake levers to finish it off. As others have previously mentioned, the Trek paint schemes from this era are really great. The metallic black with silver head tube, the silver lettering outlined in red with gold shadowing, it just pops!!
The 86/87 Trek 400 Elance was a great do-everything bike! The chainstays are short enough to still be nimble, but long enough to avoid heel strike on panniers. My 86 is more aggressively angled than my 1978 730 race bike. And as you said, that paint is just fantastic and the decals are the best looking Trek did- with the gold "go fast" stripes. . FWIW- a 531 main frame with CrMo stays and fork would have been a 600 level bike in the years prior. This frame is totally worthy of 600/Ultegra level components. That group that's on there is PERFECT.

Did you run into problems with the brakes? I tried using 6400 brakes and they wouldn't reach the 700c wheels. I actually changed the wheels TO 27" so I could use the 6400 brakes- I did it all cute and put dual pivot in the front and single in the rear. I also had problems with the "block" on the brake bridge. I got lucky in that I scored another set of brakes for next to nothing, but this bike came with a recessed nut in the front and a nutted in the back.

You've got a really cool bike and you've built it up really really cool!
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I've had to deal with 3 400s with nutted rear brake bridges. Why would they do that?
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Some type of period-appropriate component level upgrade as you did probably. I’d keep my Sugino compact double as is, hubs are already Dura-Ace.

Your bike belongs in the December thread! I’ve loved that black and silver scheme all these years. Did you clear coat or just clean and wax for that shine, and is that frame as scratch-free as it appears?


I just washed and waxed the frame. I did have some touch-ups to do, but luckily, it cleaned up well.


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The 86/87 Trek 400 Elance was a great do-everything bike! The chainstays are short enough to still be nimble, but long enough to avoid heel strike on panniers. My 86 is more aggressively angled than my 1978 730 race bike. And as you said, that paint is just fantastic and the decals are the best looking Trek did- with the gold "go fast" stripes. . FWIW- a 531 main frame with CrMo stays and fork would have been a 600 level bike in the years prior. This frame is totally worthy of 600/Ultegra level components. That group that's on there is PERFECT.

Did you run into problems with the brakes? I tried using 6400 brakes and they wouldn't reach the 700c wheels. I actually changed the wheels TO 27" so I could use the 6400 brakes- I did it all cute and put dual pivot in the front and single in the rear. I also had problems with the "block" on the brake bridge. I got lucky in that I scored another set of brakes for next to nothing, but this bike came with a recessed nut in the front and a nutted in the back.

You've got a really cool bike and you've built it up really really cool!

Thanks for the high praise! Yes, I did have a problem with the rear brakes. I ended up drilling out the block on the brake bridge a little larger to accommodate recessed nut on the brakes. I also ended up adjusting the pads downward to contact the rims.
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I did have a problem with the rear brakes. I ended up drilling out the block on the brake bridge a little larger to accommodate recessed nut on the brakes.
I've read that it's not too difficult to "drill" out the block and it alleviates having to get other parts (a longer brake bolt).
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That what I did, not too hard at all.
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I've read that it's not too difficult to "drill" out the block and it alleviates having to get other parts (a longer brake bolt).
Really appreciate this discussion of upgrade intricacies, informative for a novice wrencher such as myself.

Sounds like standard reach brakes are indicated, I measured approx 52mm reach with 700c wheels. Drilling, hmmmm.

Edit: standard not long-reach

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Really appreciate this discussion of upgrade intricacies, informative for a novice wrencher such as myself.

Sounds like standard reach brakes are indicated, I measured approx 52mm reach with 700c wheels. Drilling, hmmmm.

Edit: standard not long-reach
The drilling is needed if you have a regular short brake bolt for a rear caliper. The brake bridge is a block that's deeper than an ordinary brake bolt. You can enlarge the hole in the back and use a recessed nut.
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