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Old 10-09-18, 02:05 PM
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Definitely worth putting some money into, the late 80s Trek 400’s are great riding bikes. I’ve got an 88 and just found this 86 on the Chicago Craigslist, price was low so expected a lot of flaws. Frame and paint in great shape, almost all original, saddle, rear derailleur, and tires the only exceptions. Gladly paid the asking price.
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Originally Posted by jamesj
This is what I was looking for, I know it is a decent bike quality wise. As we all do I really love these TREK bikes, I just wasn't sure if it was really worth putting money into it. I have no problem putting it to use as my main winter rain bike. Regarding the stays they are not super compressed, its like someone started to put pressure on them and realized what they were doing and backed off. I have my I also have my 1980 TREK 412 that is in way more decent shape than this.

If it was a good enough bike I was thinking about approaching my friend Andrew Cooper to see if it was possible to replace the chain stays and do a frame repaint. Andrew Cooper
Here is the best pic I could get of the tubes.

Again, my personal opinion- it's worthy of a repaint if you like it- but not something I'd replace tubes over. There's not a whole lot of bikes that I'd go to that expense over- and I think the only reason I'd do it is out of quality combined with rarity combined with sentimental value. The kickstand damage doesn't look all that bad to me and definitely not enough to warrant replacing tubes.

As cool as I think the bike and the frame is- it's a 400 level Trek- There's thousands and thousands of them out there and you can find 'em in 21" pretty easily. (I know it's easy to say that when you have one and you're not looking for one- if I was looking- It'd be months and I'd overpay $100 or so...)

If'n it were me, I'd get at least a decent set of wheels to try out the bike and see how you get along with it- if you don't like it - move it on- it's just not worth throwing that kind of money/effort into a bike you don't like (or considering how beat up it is- it might also be tweaked). But I think you need a decent wheel set on there to fairly evaluate it- those bolt on wheels don't look to be particularly high quality.

I don't know how worn your finish is- but I think that metallic blue on the 86 and 87 Trek 400s was as cool of a color Trek has ever used- it's so cool looking "into" the finish- it's almost like you can stick your finger into it.

By the way, James- I've missed seeing your "adventure" pix you used to post around here.
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Here is my 1992 Trek 1200 I finally went over after owning it for about 6 years. I am going to be selling it because it is a little on the larger side for me. Rides great though.







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More of the 700.





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More of the 700.
WOW that's a gorgeous bike!!!
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Holy crap that thing is perfect!
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Daaaaaannnnnggggg, all that SUPERBE! Beautiful bike. Man, that Trek blue is gorgeous.
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That seat post binder bolt has a speck of rust on it, or tarnish, or something.
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Originally Posted by Hudson308
WOW that's a gorgeous bike!!!
Originally Posted by shoota
Holy crap that thing is perfect!
It is a nice bike, maybe not perfect but very near.

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Daaaaaannnnnggggg, all that SUPERBE! Beautiful bike. Man, that Trek blue is gorgeous.
Yes, very pretty

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That seat post binder bolt has a speck of rust on it, or tarnish, or something.
Just a bit here and there. It is a Seattle thing...rust.

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Looks nearly unused!
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Originally Posted by Hobbiano
Looks nearly unused!
I found this bike some years ago in near new condition. Unfortunately it is too larger for me so never gets ridden. It is eye candy though!
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Nice 700. Do those Superbe brakes have a number on the back indicating reach? I need some brakes for my '81 700.
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Originally Posted by stoutblock
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Wow! Beautiful bike!

IMO- there were so few 'top of the line' sport bikes- the best models were the touring and racing bikes- the "sport" bikes were the "jack of all trades, master of none" and sort of looked at as a step above a beginner's bike. The Trek 700 was a top of the line tube set with top of the line components with the most cutting edge rear derailleur around at the time- the Superbe Tech!

The only top shelf quality sport bikes I can think of are the Trek 700 and the Specialized Sequoia.
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I don't think this warrants it's own post, so I'll put it here. This is a 1977 TX700 I picked up earlier this summer, and I'm still deciding what to do with it - keep it and get it repainted? Keep it and leave it as is? I know the ol' 'it's only original once' refrain comes to mind, but some of the paint is simply flaking off. It came with Campy NR that I partially removed for some Suntour Cyclone stuff I've been meaning to try (yes, I have much better tires I haven't installed yet). I'm still getting used to the long stays and stable 'low trail' geometry, to be honest. I'd like to use it as a light touring bike, but maybe it's too old for that, I dunno.




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There’s only so much the average guy can do to touch up paint. I’d say ride it and see how you like it. If you love it, paint it up.

Did you do a complete drivetrain swap? Was that Sakae CR on there? Love the Krull look!
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There’s only so much the average guy can do to touch up paint. I’d say ride it and see how you like it. If you love it, paint it up.

Did you do a complete drivetrain swap? Was that Sakae CR on there? Love the Krull look!
Yeah, I certainly need to ride it more, that's for sure. It rides differently than I'm used to. This is the first bike I've owned that "needs" a repaint, and I haven't been down that road before yet. I love the fact that it was made the year I was born and I really like the long pointed Cinelli lugs. I keep it in my home office loft and look at it often throughout the day. I figure an "old bike guy in Wisconsin" needs at least one steel Trek on hand, right?

Yes, I did a full drivetrain swap from a '84 520 that was way too big for me and I had the wheelset leftover (Cyclone hubs on Matrix rims) from another touring bike I parted out. The Cyclone RD is a little buggered but it'll do for now, and I'm still getting used to the power rachet shifters. I had my first shakedown ride yesterday and I think the Cyclone stuff is a better fit for this simple, sensible Midwestern frame - the NR seemed a little pretentious but that's probably all in my head. The NR sure is pretty though.

When I first found the bike I asked GoldenBoy for some advice, and he said these don't pop up all that often, so why not see if you like it if you have the funds and space, and, well, that's how I got another bike.
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Very nice TX700 even with the flaking paint. I haven’t seen original imron paint flake off like that on these early Treks. Imron paint is only as good as the prep work that goes into these paint jobs. Must have been a bad batch of primer that didn’t stick. Weird that it’s flakng clean of the bare steel...
Can you see a solid color underneath the flakes? A Sold color as in primer. If you only see the shimmery metallic color, then it didn’t get any primer and could also be the reason the paint is falling off so clean.


as far as down tube shifters.. Try installing some Suntour barcon bar end shifters. To me, They do make riding a huge difference compared to down tube shifting.
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The early Treks just seem to me like simple, honest, working man bikes made with blue collar American craftsmanship. Maybe they had different motivations when they started, but that’s what it seems like in retrospect. I love them for that and am never hesitant to acquire one when it comes along. I now have three with a fourth at a friend’s house.

That being said, the Japanese parts seem to be a good match to Treks for the same reasons - simple, honest, working man parts.
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Originally Posted by friendofpugs

When I first found the bike I asked GoldenBoy for some advice, and he said these don't pop up all that often, so why not see if you like it if you have the funds and space, and, well, that's how I got another bike.
If you don’t grab the one you find- it’ll be a LONG time before you find another one.

I looked for one in my size for several years- I finally found one, but I don’t have it built exactly right- so I don’t think I’m getting as much out of the TX700 as I think I could. I was hoping for it to be a longer version of my 730. I’m considering doing a 650B build on it.

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Was that Sakae CR on there? Love the Krull look!
I’ve always thought that should have been the Cyclone crankset.
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I’ve always thought that should have been the Cyclone crankset.
Exactly!
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Originally Posted by Chriscraft760
Very nice TX700 even with the flaking paint. I haven’t seen original imron paint flake off like that on these early Treks. Imron paint is only as good as the prep work that goes into these paint jobs. Must have been a bad batch of primer that didn’t stick. Weird that it’s flakng clean of the bare steel...
Can you see a solid color underneath the flakes? A Sold color as in primer. If you only see the shimmery metallic color, then it didn’t get any primer and could also be the reason the paint is falling off so clean.


as far as down tube shifters.. Try installing some Suntour barcon bar end shifters. To me, They do make riding a huge difference compared to down tube shifting.
What's underneath is a dull, dark gray - I don't know if that's the primer or not. The fellow I got this from had it stored in a shed with a limestone floor. The rear tubular tire was shot and so the rim was in contact with the floor and it simply corroded the rim to bits. I tried to remove the freewheel from the Campy high flange hub and the rear rim literally crumbled under the pressure. So much for using those hubs, I sold 'em cheap on eBay. Anyway, I don't know if being around limestone did something to the paint, but I'm thinking it's a strong possibility.

I have some barcons I can use but I wanted to try the power rachet shifters first - they are, uh, different. I've only used them for one ride so far.

Yeah, I'm thinking I'll take the Campy brakes off and use some Suntour on it instead, seems to fit it better. Maybe a Brooks saddle too. I want to make sure I'm keeping it though, first, before pumping more money into it. I've made that mistake before many a time.
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Originally Posted by mountaindave
The early Treks just seem to me like simple, honest, working man bikes made with blue collar American craftsmanship. Maybe they had different motivations when they started, but that’s what it seems like in retrospect. I love them for that and am never hesitant to acquire one when it comes along. I now have three with a fourth at a friend’s house.

That being said, the Japanese parts seem to be a good match to Treks for the same reasons - simple, honest, working man parts.
I agree with this assessment. Since the very early ones are somewhat uncommon, I had in mind that they might have custom-type qualities, but they're just good all-around, everyday bikes. Nothing at all wrong with that.
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