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Old 02-03-19, 08:33 AM
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Trek 7000 mt bike from 1990 repainted a copper color.

​​​​​I currently have it set up as a 1x10 with SRAM shifter, derailer and cassette.

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Originally Posted by Pompiere
I like how the Tri-color looks on the red frame. The paint was in really good condition and only needed a few chips touched up. The picture doesn't do it justice.

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That’s because Tri-color looks good on any late 80’s, early 90’s bike - it was second only to Dura Ace in sexiness. And you’re right, she’s a looker!
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Originally Posted by cooperryder
Trek 7000 mt bike from 1990 repainted a copper color.

​​​​​I currently have it set up as a 1x10 with SRAM shifter, derailer and cassette.
Nice work! How do you like the DTH tires?
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Originally Posted by mountaindave

That’s because Tri-color looks good on any late 80’s, early 90’s bike - it was second only to Dura Ace in sexiness. And you’re right, she’s a looker!
Thanks! I got it late in the year, so I have been itching for decent weather to go out for a shake-down ride. Today is close to 50 degrees, so might be my best chance if I get all my chores done.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
I got this Trek 400T last fall at the former Memory Lane swap meet. I swapped a few parts because I wanted to put a triple on my LeTour. I like how the Tri-color looks on the red frame. The paint was in really good condition and only needed a few chips touched up. The picture doesn't do it justice.




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That looks slick!

It's kind of amazing to me that this was the bottom of Trek's lineup back then. This is a TruTemper CrMo frame and fork- it came equipped with quality components to begin with. I had the same 88 400T for a short while (it was too big). I really dug the Ovaltech rings- I was having knee problems when I had it- and I really thought they made things easier for me- the MT-60 Deore RD was the 2nd from the top of the line ATB group- just under XT (so I guess it's kind of analogous to 600/Ultegra stuff of the time). IIRC, the FD was a Z206- excellent stuff. I've always thought my 86 400 Elance is the most beautiful bike- the angles, the paint, the filled in lug windows... and it's a 531/CrMo frame- I never thought it out of line to hang Class A or B parts off it.

However, with your bike- I don't know that I'd still refer to it as a 400T as the T was for "triple," and since the triple isn't on there anymore- it would be more of a 400D- or just 400. I think the frames are identical- there's no paint or even a decal difference between the D and T- just components.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
That looks slick!

It's kind of amazing to me that this was the bottom of Trek's lineup back then. This is a TruTemper CrMo frame and fork- it came equipped with quality components to begin with. I had the same 88 400T for a short while (it was too big). I really dug the Ovaltech rings- I was having knee problems when I had it- and I really thought they made things easier for me- the MT-60 Deore RD was the 2nd from the top of the line ATB group- just under XT (so I guess it's kind of analogous to 600/Ultegra stuff of the time). IIRC, the FD was a Z206- excellent stuff. I've always thought my 86 400 Elance is the most beautiful bike- the angles, the paint, the filled in lug windows... and it's a 531/CrMo frame- I never thought it out of line to hang Class A or B parts off it.

However, with your bike- I don't know that I'd still refer to it as a 400T as the T was for "triple," and since the triple isn't on there anymore- it would be more of a 400D- or just 400. I think the frames are identical- there's no paint or even a decal difference between the D and T- just components.
Thanks! This is my first Trek, it looks like I got a good one. I may change it back to the triple once the weather warms up and I get to see how it rides.
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Originally Posted by mountaindave

Nice work! How do you like the DTH tires?
Thank you.

I like the DTH tires.
As I recall the weight is right around 550 grams each and they are a foldable tire
for what that's worth.

They roll well and I don't think I have ever flatted on them as of yet.

They also come in a tan sidewall.

I've ridden them on gravel b4 and they held up well.

However on another vintage Trek mt bike, a 950, I have the Rat Trap Pass tires and these Maxxis do not measure up to them.

The Rat Traps make a noticeable difference on a bike.
They are definitely a step or 3 above in my view.

The Maxxis are good tires. I think they are also a good value and work well for me and saved me money over the another set of Rat Traps.
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Thanks for the report. There’s a time for the best and a time for good enough. And sometimes slicks just aren’t the right tire. I love my Compass (now René Herse) tires too, but can’t afford them on everything.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
Thanks! This is my first Trek, it looks like I got a good one.
You’ll read about this period- Trek didn’t make low end bikes- their “entry level” bike was mid level for most other makes.

While there were hi-ten frames for a little while in the early early days- and some early 80s bikes had hi-ten forks and/or stays- Trek always made a good bike, with good components and great tube sets; from the late 70s to the end of the 80s.
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Drove 200 miles round trip at night for what I was hoping to be a '79 (birth year bike) on OfferUp. Seller didn't know year. The ad photos were limited so did some photo forensics and thanks to the vintage trek website I narrowed it down to a '79-'81 710 or 610. It ended being a '81 614 (SR Laprade Seatpost). Serial shows it was one of the first 22.5" 610 frames serialized in '81. Anyway a tiny dent (1/4" diameter) on top tube and down tube and found a 1/2" long dent on top tube under pump mount but otherwise straight frame without original fork. Rolled out dents, spread stays to 130mm, aligned triangle and dropouts and sent to powedercoaters to strip, fill remainder of dents and coat with a bit darker metallic blue (closest match they had...the called it "Blue Steel"...thought it was appropriate. :-) Should be ready this week!

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Also, picked this up as a F/F two weeks ago off of eBay. It's an '80 410. Photo is from yesterday as built up from the parts that were on the 614. I'm trying to see if the 21" size fits as the 22.5" fits well reach wise, but the standover leaves no room for error if you know what I mean.

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Drove 200 miles round trip at night for what I was hoping to be a '79 (birth year bike) on OfferUp. Seller didn't know year. The ad photos were limited so did some photo forensics and thanks to the vintage trek website I narrowed it down to a '79-'81 710 or 610. It ended being a '81 614 (SR Laprade Seatpost). Serial shows it was one of the first 22.5" 610 frames serialized in '81. Anyway a tiny dent (1/4" diameter) on top tube and down tube and found a 1/2" long dent on top tube under pump mount but otherwise straight frame without original fork. Rolled out dents, spread stays to 130mm, aligned triangle and dropouts and sent to powedercoaters to strip, fill remainder of dents and coat with a bit darker metallic blue (closest match they had...the called it "Blue Steel"...thought it was appropriate. :-) Should be ready this week!

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Apologies; that chrome unicrown fork is not the original one, but that may be a good thing. I also have an '81 614 with the original fork, which was sometimes prone to failure at the crown. That may be why yours was replaced.
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Apologies; that chrome unicrown fork is not the original one, but that may be a good thing. I also have an '81 614 with the original fork, which was sometimes prone to failure at the crown. That may be why yours was replaced.
I was reading about the Ishiwata “death forks” but couldn’t figure out which ones or if all of them. Have a new lugged fork for it getting matching powder coat. Also, picked up a nice Chromed Tange fork from the C&V Classifieds as an option. BTW...saw your posts of your powder coated frame! Super nice! Have you built it up yet?
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I was reading about the Ishiwata “death forks” but couldn’t figure out which ones or if all of them. Have a new lugged fork for it getting matching powder coat. Also, picked up a nice Chromed Tange fork from the C&V Classifieds as an option. BTW...saw your posts of your powder coated frame! Super nice! Have you built it up yet?
The weak forks are the ones that have no reinforcement on the inside of the crown, where the blade is attached. You can see in my photo above that the crown has a small tang there that goes straight across, with no nub extending down from the joint.
I'm almost finished applying the correct decals to that 930 frame. Here's a teaser shot...
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I was reading about the Ishiwata “death forks” but couldn’t figure out which ones or if all of them.
The problematic forks used a stamped crown, so look for a weld seam on the bottom of the crown. If there's no weld seam, the crown is investment cast and not one of the problem forks. If there is a weld seam, it may or may not be one of the problem forks.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy

You’ll read about this period- Trek didn’t make low end bikes- their “entry level” bike was mid level for most other makes.

While there were hi-ten frames for a little while in the early early days- and some early 80s bikes had hi-ten forks and/or stays- Trek always made a good bike, with good components and great tube sets; from the late 70s to the end of the 80s.
CMIIW but I think even the hi-tension frames were butted?
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CMIIW but I think even the hi-tension frames were butted?
Looking at the two earliest catalogs- the entry level TX200 and 300 were Ishiwata 0265 double butted.
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The three sisters...

Left to right that's an '83 720 an '84 620 and an '84 520 😁



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Left to right that's an '83 720 an '84 620 and an '84 520 😁



Which one do you like the most and why?
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Which one do you like the most and why?

This one 🤪
The '84 610, and I'll tell you why. It's the comfortable all-rounder. You could do a rando or a credit tour on it, it'll fit 27 1 1/4 if I want fatter rubber, it's comfortable all day and still nimble without being twitchy.

But for the the straight up tourers I bought them all last fall as the weather turned nasty and I really only have vague first impressions. The '84 520 is REAL sleeper. ONLY in 1984 did itcombine the traditional seat cluster lugs with the 45.5cm chainstay length. Thats only 1.5cm shoerter than the fabled 720, and the ride reflects it, it is solid and stable. The frame is 501 with mangaloy (Tange 2001?) and the tubing is WELL matched for touring. Back to back with the 720, there isn’t a ton of difference in ride quality, at least in my short commuter jaunts which are under ten miles and unladen. The 520 is also “light enough” with the lift test. when you pick it up it feels like “a nice lightish steel road bike”. The 720, I saw it discribed as riding a unicorn on pillows made of rainbows or something near to that. And it is... but can I for sure say it hasn’t anything to do with the hype? I bought the hype, and then I bought the bike after all!

you do ntice the chain stay length and the long wheelbase (the ‘82 728 frame and the ‘83 frame are the same and are longer wheelbased than the ‘84/‘85 model) So yes, she’s stretch limo. And remeber to that these are all in 24” sized, which has me with juust a fist of seatpost and bars level with the saddle. I’m 5’10’ with an 88.25 PBH so these are all French Fit as I think befits a touring bike (or any bike you are going to compete on). What I’m getting at is these are long bikes, and they are on the larger side of what I fit correctly, so the long wheel base is emphasized by that on all of the bikes. The 620 I’ve barely ridden yet :-( I know for shame. But I plan on posting some better reviews or shoot outs. I think they are all VERY close in ride quality though, If anyone is thinking about a Trek Tourer of this period and you find a 520 (specifically ‘84, in ‘83 it has a short wheelbase and caliper brakes, same with ‘85 and ‘86) You have found a ligit nice vintage touring bike.

Also factor in that the ‘84 came with Suntour Cyclone Long Cage rear derailler and you can make a strong argument that it was better equiped than the 620!

I’m gushing about the 520 because it’s SO close in quality to the 620 and 720. Those bikes DO qualitativly ride nicer but the 520 is just a hairs bredth behind them, thats why I like it. It surprisingly closer to the grail status bikes than I would have imagined. It does lack low rider brazes, and both it and the 620 have only one rear eyelet, and IIRC the 520 has one bottle basement, and the 620 and even the 720 only have two each. The bikes all have very little clearence for tires plus fenders, they’re pretty strictly road tourers, I’d take something else for dirt roads, but there are work arounds. So they’re all awesome, its more about which bike is an A+ an A or an A- than which is an A a B or a C.
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1987 Trek 400 Elance

Purchased worn out and rusty from original owner. 531 frame was blasted and then powder coated in satin black. I created and applied the decals based on modern, current designs and used the current logo badging. Drivetrain is all vintage 8 speed Dura Ace but had to go with a longer rear brake for 700 conversion. Fork is Kinesis carbon with sleeper 531 decals. Wheels are Ksyriums with GP4000sII in 23. Finished weight is 22lbs-6oz. Love the way this thing turned out and seems like every time I ride it somebody wants to buy it.
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WOW... amazing!!! Would never have guessed that was an '87 Elance!!!
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