Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Austro Daimler Serial Number Database

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Austro Daimler Serial Number Database

Old 11-30-11, 03:49 PM
  #26  
Zaphod Beeblebrox 
PanGalacticGargleBlaster
Thread Starter
 
Zaphod Beeblebrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Smugglers Notch, Vermont
Posts: 7,536

Bikes: Upright and Recumbent....too many to list, mostly Vintage.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
From what I gather the SLE is a higher model than the SL. Its got one more letter so it must be better.

I've just acquired an SLE and looking forward to doing some back to back comparisons against my Inter-10.

I've always assumed the SLE was at least as good as an Inter-10 seeing how they did it in smoke chrome and I figure they wouldn't do that to just any frame.


Good Article Chuck - Good reading.
__________________
--Don't Panic.
Zaphod Beeblebrox is offline  
Old 11-30-11, 11:18 PM
  #27  
lueckebw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 70

Bikes: 1980 Austro Daimler SLE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't know they offered the SLE in smoke chrome - I thought that was only the Vent Noir. My 1981 sales brochure lists Saltzburg Blue as the only color option for the SLE . Maybe you really have a Vent Noir, or perhaps they offered other color choices later.
lueckebw is offline  
Old 12-01-11, 08:29 AM
  #28  
ScottRyder 
Senior Member
 
ScottRyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The other Cape, Cape Ann
Posts: 3,036

Bikes: vintagefuji.posthaven.com

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
The VN was black chrome which was about twice the density of the smoke.
I've never seen the VN referred to as black chrome, just smoked. Matt black, the painted model, I've seen.

Scott
ScottRyder is offline  
Old 12-01-11, 03:58 PM
  #29  
Zaphod Beeblebrox 
PanGalacticGargleBlaster
Thread Starter
 
Zaphod Beeblebrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Smugglers Notch, Vermont
Posts: 7,536

Bikes: Upright and Recumbent....too many to list, mostly Vintage.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lueckebw View Post
I didn't know they offered the SLE in smoke chrome - I thought that was only the Vent Noir. My 1981 sales brochure lists Saltzburg Blue as the only color option for the SLE . Maybe you really have a Vent Noir, or perhaps they offered other color choices later.
I'm with ya.....I thought that too, but here it sits and the top tube appears to say SLE.

Originally Posted by Scottryder View Post
I've never seen the VN referred to as black chrome, just smoked. Matt black, the painted model, I've seen.
Scott
Same here, Never heard A-D call it Black Chrome.... Smoked Chrome yes.
__________________
--Don't Panic.
Zaphod Beeblebrox is offline  
Old 12-02-11, 04:45 PM
  #30  
Zaphod Beeblebrox 
PanGalacticGargleBlaster
Thread Starter
 
Zaphod Beeblebrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Smugglers Notch, Vermont
Posts: 7,536

Bikes: Upright and Recumbent....too many to list, mostly Vintage.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Now there's a strange bird.

Austro-Daimler on the downtube, Puch on the seatstay caps and a TA Half-Step plus Granny crankset.

I'd ride the heck outta that!

I'm convinced that nearly every color Austro Daimler comes up with is impossible to accurately photograph.
__________________
--Don't Panic.
Zaphod Beeblebrox is offline  
Old 12-02-11, 07:17 PM
  #31  
ScottRyder 
Senior Member
 
ScottRyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The other Cape, Cape Ann
Posts: 3,036

Bikes: vintagefuji.posthaven.com

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Chuckk, thanks for that link, a good reference point. I've never seen a line of bikes that has so many inconsistencies in it's branding, coloring and components as Austro-Daimler/Puch. Even in a A-D catalog you can see models with Puch head badges ..

Scott
ScottRyder is offline  
Old 12-02-11, 11:10 PM
  #32  
lueckebw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 70

Bikes: 1980 Austro Daimler SLE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
"Black Chrome Finish"
http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Cat...orce%20xii.jpg
Notice how much darker the VN is than smoke chrome.
AH! I see PUCH clearly on the chainstay of the VN.

Seems like I've seen a couple of smoke chrome bikes sold as VNs lately. Easier when Cyclomondo makes the model decal.
Wow, that Vent Noir is a LOT darker than any other I've seen. Looks like that was from '82, so maybe they made them darker then. I like it. A LOT!
lueckebw is offline  
Old 01-27-12, 10:08 PM
  #33  
Drummerboy1975
Senior Member
 
Drummerboy1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,358

Bikes: '81 Fuji Royale/ '96 Rockhopper

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Can anyone tell me what I have here? The word Royal and something else on the TT.





Drummerboy1975 is offline  
Old 01-31-12, 10:25 AM
  #34  
lueckebw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 70

Bikes: 1980 Austro Daimler SLE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
Can anyone tell me what I have here? The word Royal and something else on the TT.
That looks just like my 1980 AD SLE, except mine has 531 main tubing. Mine has "AD - SLE" on the TT. I have no idea what the "Royal" would be.
lueckebw is offline  
Old 01-31-12, 11:00 AM
  #35  
Wildwood 
Veteran/Pacifist/Resister
 
Wildwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 8,526

Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1749 Post(s)
Liked 93 Times in 67 Posts
Zaphod - any success determining a serial number coding scheme?
Wildwood is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 10:46 PM
  #36  
Anamnesis
Junior Member
 
Anamnesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Nuevo Mexico
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A-D serial numbers? I'm trying to identify my recently purchased steel frame set. Based on recent forum help it looks closest to an Austro-Daimler (though a bicycle fiend friend with three decades of experience suggested that it may be a Pinarello). The frame has been re-painted and hence no badge or decals. Gipiemme dropouts. Serial number on the bottom bracket, toward the front is 7114455 F. On the opposite side, toward the rear of the frame, is 6 457. Does that sound right? The few databases I've seen only have the initial numbers with no mention of the numbers on the rear of the BB. Any ideas?
Anamnesis is offline  
Old 01-30-14, 07:06 PM
  #37  
juls
over the hill
 
juls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: florida
Posts: 1,410

Bikes: 72 maino-76 austro daimler inter 10-? giant kronos

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 81 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Just got an AD Inter 10 mixte/10 speed-shimano 600 equipped. Serial is 5661565 or 5681565 hard to tell if an 8 or 6 in the third position number. It is a 10 speed with concave weinman wheels. Apex crank-SR stem-old school rat trap peds. The slanted 531 sticker on the frame and 531 on the forks. Dark dark red. Being a ten speed-I'm thinking 70's? Have to get the component date codes to check I think. Some one upgraded the hubs to 'Phils" (My guess) Need to get this database going! LOL
juls is offline  
Old 06-24-14, 04:16 PM
  #38  
jblake183
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My Puch Austro-Daimler Pathfinder A-D, I'm guessing early 80's vintage.


Serial # 7273716, I think.


I'm considering a resto-mod if you want to check that thread out:
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post16879260
jblake183 is offline  
Old 06-24-14, 05:14 PM
  #39  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,733

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 190 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1059 Post(s)
Liked 42 Times in 34 Posts
My Inter-10. Number 5728106. I recently bought it, but the PO couldn't tell me much about its history. Someone brought it over to Holland at some point, as these bikes were never sold here, AFIK. It has a shop sticker from the Patio Bike Shop in Hales Corners, WI. So it must be '72 or later.

Apart from the cables, housing and bar tape, it's pretty much as I bought it. I've done about 50 mls on it, and so far I'm liking it a lot. A very comfy bike.

__________________
Reasons to be cheerful!
non-fixie is offline  
Old 06-25-14, 02:55 PM
  #40  
Wildwood 
Veteran/Pacifist/Resister
 
Wildwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 8,526

Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1749 Post(s)
Liked 93 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
I've done about 50 mls on it, and so far I'm liking it a lot. A very comfy bike.
I'm glad to see this thread pop up. Here's how mine turned out. And good to see a comment about the riding of the bike. The thing I like most about my '81 Olympian is how well it rides. I've had 531 frames that didn't ride like this one. Maybe it just hits my body fit, maybe the tubulars, I dunno. Then, at the recent Seattle C&V ride another forum member rode it briefly, and wrote that he was surprised at how the AD was 'dial-in'. So here it is, un-restored, dialed-in, in full 'wet bike' regalia.

serial #6 8 3 6 8 8 5. Catalogs @ Bulgier show this color as the 1981 model. I bought it as a frameset in Chehalis (WA), history unknown other than a California registration tag that expired 1991 and another from a store in Olympia, WA.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
WIN_20140625_125657 (2).jpg (82.0 KB, 256 views)
__________________
70sFollis 072/71 Bottecchia Giro d Italia/72 Zeus Competition/78 Batavus Competition/80 Mondia Super/81 AustroDaimler Olympian/82 Harding(Holdsworth) Special/84 Pinarello Record/85 EM Corsa Extra/86 DeRosa Pro/88 Falcon Race/99 Pinarello Cadore/99 Calfee TetraPro/03 Macalu Cirrus/04 Tallerico: The less ridden = '97 CoMotion tandem + city bike, mtn bike, beach cruiser

Last edited by Wildwood; 11-06-17 at 06:31 AM.
Wildwood is offline  
Old 02-20-16, 08:28 PM
  #41  
teambhultima
Go Team BH!
 
teambhultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: just outside B-ham, AL
Posts: 238

Bikes: Austro Daimler Ultima

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks to everyone for your continued interest in these wonderful old steel bikes. Mine is an Austro Daimler Ultima, serial # 5694722, Reynolds 531 frame and fork, purple with gold pin striping, probably 1976. It was delivered new to the bicycle dealer with a full Campagnolo Super Record group, which he cannibalized to outfit an Exxon Graftek (super cool graphite frame) and the AD was left in storage. I bought the Ultima frame, with the Campy SR crank, chainrings, shifters and headset some years later and built up a fun bike that I still enjoy today. It rides great, is very responsive, accelerates quickly and is a great hill-climber. Thanks for everyone's posts!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Ultima 11-26-14.jpg (52.8 KB, 255 views)
File Type: jpg
Bike2 11-26-14.jpg (101.5 KB, 255 views)
teambhultima is offline  
Old 09-01-16, 05:57 AM
  #42  
Fidusa
Junior Member
 
Fidusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: europe
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
That is mine,early 80's I think.Puch.Unfortunately I don't recognise the model.It was given to me in that situation...
Fidusa is offline  
Old 09-01-16, 02:57 PM
  #43  
juls
over the hill
 
juls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: florida
Posts: 1,410

Bikes: 72 maino-76 austro daimler inter 10-? giant kronos

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 81 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by juls View Post
Just got an AD Inter 10 mixte/10 speed-shimano 600 equipped. Serial is 5661565 or 5681565 hard to tell if an 8 or 6 in the third position number. It is a 10 speed with concave weinman wheels. Apex crank-SR stem-old school rat trap peds. The slanted 531 sticker on the frame and 531 on the forks. Dark dark red. Being a ten speed-I'm thinking 70's? Have to get the component date codes to check I think. Some one upgraded the hubs to 'Phils" (My guess) Need to get this database going! LOL
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...1&d=1472763363
2 years and a few upgrades later, a picture
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
my inter10.jpg (90.6 KB, 121 views)
juls is offline  
Old 09-01-16, 04:25 PM
  #44  
Andy_K 
Senior Member
 
Andy_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 12,050

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 287 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1739 Post(s)
Liked 17 Times in 16 Posts
I may as well add mine here too, although trying to correlate these numbers to dates seems a bit hopeless as almost no one appears to be certain what year theirs was made.



I'm not even sure of which model mine is. Based on the lack of any model identification I think it's a "Team". That's the only model (sold as a frameset, I believe) that I've found evidence of that isn't labeled. Otherwise, it looks a good bit like some of the Ultimas I've seen.

My serial number is 6052430.

I've been calling it a 1979, but squinting at the catalog scans from that year it looks like all three models pictured had the top tube cable guides brazed on by then, so it may be earlier. The tubes, including stays and forks, are butted Reynolds 531. The dropouts are Campagnolo. The chrome strip on the chain stay is at a lower level than the paint, so who know how much chrome there is under the paint. Where the Bordeaux Red paint has chipped (everywhere!) you can see a gold undercoating.


The components I have on it now are not original and the jumble of parts it came with didn't seem to be either (Shimano Sport LX shifters, 105SC rear derailleur, SunTour XCD front derailleur, Sugino Super Mighty crankset, Modolo Equipe brakes, Shimano 1051 brake levers, mismatched singlespeed wheelset).


I think the bottom bracket and headset it had when I got it were both Nuovo Record, so those may have been original, or at least installed near the time of original sale, but I don't think that helps narrow it down much (late 1960's to mid 1980's according to VeloBase).
__________________
My Bikes
Andy_K is offline  
Old 11-15-16, 04:32 AM
  #45  
Fidusa
Junior Member
 
Fidusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: europe
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Final rebuild


Last edited by Fidusa; 11-15-16 at 04:21 PM.
Fidusa is offline  
Old 11-15-16, 08:41 AM
  #46  
Wildwood 
Veteran/Pacifist/Resister
 
Wildwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 8,526

Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1749 Post(s)
Liked 93 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by ScottRyder View Post
Chuckk, thanks for that link, a good reference point. I've never seen a line of bikes that has so many inconsistencies in it's branding, coloring and components as Austro-Daimler/Puch. Even in a A-D catalog you can see models with Puch head badges ...Scott
Very true.
In the case of my '81/82, it has decals from 81, but drop-outs & geometry from 82. Altho no signs of Puch.
__________________
70sFollis 072/71 Bottecchia Giro d Italia/72 Zeus Competition/78 Batavus Competition/80 Mondia Super/81 AustroDaimler Olympian/82 Harding(Holdsworth) Special/84 Pinarello Record/85 EM Corsa Extra/86 DeRosa Pro/88 Falcon Race/99 Pinarello Cadore/99 Calfee TetraPro/03 Macalu Cirrus/04 Tallerico: The less ridden = '97 CoMotion tandem + city bike, mtn bike, beach cruiser
Wildwood is offline  
Old 11-15-16, 08:45 AM
  #47  
Wildwood 
Veteran/Pacifist/Resister
 
Wildwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 8,526

Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1749 Post(s)
Liked 93 Times in 67 Posts
Is that a Nervar crankset?
Originally Posted by Fidusa View Post
[IMG][/IMG]
__________________
70sFollis 072/71 Bottecchia Giro d Italia/72 Zeus Competition/78 Batavus Competition/80 Mondia Super/81 AustroDaimler Olympian/82 Harding(Holdsworth) Special/84 Pinarello Record/85 EM Corsa Extra/86 DeRosa Pro/88 Falcon Race/99 Pinarello Cadore/99 Calfee TetraPro/03 Macalu Cirrus/04 Tallerico: The less ridden = '97 CoMotion tandem + city bike, mtn bike, beach cruiser
Wildwood is offline  
Old 11-15-16, 04:26 PM
  #48  
Fidusa
Junior Member
 
Fidusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: europe
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Is that a Nervar crankset?
No,it's an SR crankset.

[
Fidusa is offline  
Old 11-16-16, 04:54 AM
  #49  
Fidusa
Junior Member
 
Fidusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: europe
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh,i sent it twice!

Last edited by Fidusa; 11-18-16 at 06:32 AM.
Fidusa is offline  
Old 08-20-17, 11:42 AM
  #50  
Louis Roth
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puch 531 frame

Acquired this bicycle in a pile of parts from a guy here that was a rep for Puch, Giant & Panasonic.
have not been able to learn much from him other than this was his own bike. Frame is large, about 25", and has stickers showing it to be made of 531 tubing. Dura Ace crankset, with Sun Tour f & r deraileurs. 27" Rigida wheelset.
frame number 5614464.
Would love some help in identifying the model and year of manufacture.

thanks
Louis
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMG_5892.jpg (67.9 KB, 75 views)
File Type: jpg
IMG_5903.jpg (34.9 KB, 75 views)
Louis Roth is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.