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Old 05-31-11, 10:03 AM
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Raliegh Sport rear caliper?

Anyone got suggestions/advice/spare caliper they wish to part with? I took my '69 Sports out yesterday around the block, and the rear brake is just plain dead meat. I mean, full compression, wheel's rolling, even on the new aluminum rims. It's time to get a new caliper.

I don't want/need to replace the front one, which works beautifully. So I'm looking for a decent modern replacement. They're a tad pricey for the Tektro ones through my LBS (try $80 for the pair). Anyone have an extra caliper that would work here lying around they'd be willing to part with?

Edit: yes, that should read Raleigh in the title, not Raliegh. I know this.
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How is $14 plus shipping?

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I probably have a caliper more or less like the original one, if that's what you want. It might be a front one, so you'll need to re-use your old bolt &c. But I'm not sure that's what you want, or that it would help you. I understand your existing brake is not doing much, but can you identify what's actually wrong with it? Rear brakes are not strong in the best of circumstances. Have you upgraded the pads to koolstop salmon?
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Originally Posted by Little Darwin View Post
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I'd replace both the front and rear, despite the fact that the front is working fine. These will be a major upgrade in stopping performance. It's a great feeling knowing that your bike has great braking ability.
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can you post a pic of your setup? does the cable loop around and come up from under the brake? you may be limited in choices if that is the case.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
can you post a pic of your setup? does the cable loop around and come up from under the brake? you may be limited in choices if that is the case.
Those Tekros will work both ways. John Thompson posted a picture recently.
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I've got a stock rear brake caliper from a ladies' Sports -- yours for the cost of shipping, PM me -- but like rhm I wonder whether it's the caliper itself that's at fault here. What's the symptom, exactly? Have made sure that the cable housing isn't flexing around at all when you pull on the lever? Have you adjusted the mounting screw?
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
Those Tekros will work both ways. John Thompson posted a picture recently.
Good to know, as the rear set up does exactly that: loops around and comes up under the brake. If those will work, I'll order 'em.
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Originally Posted by brianinc-ville View Post
I've got a stock rear brake caliper from a ladies' Sports -- yours for the cost of shipping, PM me -- but like rhm I wonder whether it's the caliper itself that's at fault here. What's the symptom, exactly? Have made sure that the cable housing isn't flexing around at all when you pull on the lever? Have you adjusted the mounting screw?
We have adjusted EVERYTHING. The good boys at Dutch Bike spent an hour on it, adjusting and adjusting. We tried KoolStops, we tried regular pads, we toed pads, we didn't toe pads... I think it's just dead. It never worked well to begin with, but I was hoping the aluminum rims would fix the problem. I think at $14 a pop, I'd just replace both and have great brakes front and rear.
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As posted by John Thompson a few days ago.



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I think at $14 a pop, I'd just replace both and have great brakes front and rear.
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How much reach do you need (the distance between the brake bolt and the point of brake pad contact on the rim)?

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Neal, I'm not sure. What I'll do is ask the guys who would do the replacement over at Dutch Bike if these will work, and then be done. I'm not installing them . Sounds like they'll work, and the price is right.
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Old 05-31-11, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
As posted by John Thompson a few days ago.
I need this rack.
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Originally Posted by snarkypup View Post
Good to know, as the rear set up does exactly that: loops around and comes up under the brake. If those will work, I'll order 'em.
Yes, it works -- you just have to swap the barrel adjuster and anchor bolt mountings. It's a tad bit inelegant in the cable routing, as you can see:



I wanted to mount the barrel adjuster on the other side of the arm for a straighter cable run, but in that position the barrel adjuster prevented the caliper from opening completely. It looks a little funny, but it works just fine.
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I need this rack.
That's actually the standard Raleigh rack, but it was pretty decrepit when I got it (one of those "pay-it-forward" deals). It's missing the spring clamp and just had grey primer and rust for surface treatment. I had it powder coated along with this frame -- no extra charge!



It looks like this now:



The basket is just a Home Depot storage basket held on with p-clamps.

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Brake reach on a lady Sports with CR18 rims is 3.115" according to the '71 I just measured with my calipers from center of brake mounting bolt to center of brake pad bolt the way I have them adjusted.

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That's actually the standard Raleigh rack.
Yeah, I even had one that had faded to almost the same shade of green as my Supercourse. I couldn't figure out how to mount it level on such a big bike so I sold it. I've since figured it out and really regret selling it since they seam to have gone way up in price.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Yes, it works -- you just have to swap the barrel adjuster and anchor bolt mountings. It's a tad bit inelegant in the cable routing, as you can see:



I wanted to mount the barrel adjuster on the other side of the arm for a straighter cable run, but in that position the barrel adjuster prevented the caliper from opening completely. It looks a little funny, but it works just fine.
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
That's actually the standard Raleigh rack, but it was pretty decrepit when I got it (one of those "pay-it-forward" deals). It's missing the spring clamp and just had grey primer and rust for surface treatment. I had it powder coated along with this frame -- no extra charge!



It looks like this now:



The basket is just a Home Depot storage basket held on with p-clamps.
Not to hijack this thread, but I'd be curious to know all the updates you did to this bike, IIRC for your daughter.
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Not to hijack this thread, but I'd be curious to know all the updates you did to this bike, IIRC for your daughter.
The bike came to me like this:



I bought the wheels on eBay, used a Sakae Ringyo crank I had, picked up the handlebars and pedals locally, Tektro brakes from BikeTools, etc., rack from a pay-it-forward, generator (Lucas! -- it even works) and headlamp bracket from a trade with cudak888, basket from Home Depot, et voilą!

Just in time for her 21st birthday -- tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Yes, it works -- you just have to swap the barrel adjuster and anchor bolt mountings. It's a tad bit inelegant in the cable routing, as you can see:



I wanted to mount the barrel adjuster on the other side of the arm for a straighter cable run, but in that position the barrel adjuster prevented the caliper from opening completely. It looks a little funny, but it works just fine.
I mounted the adjuster on the other side which makes mounting the wheel a little challenging but doable as the tire doesn't clear the pads.No problems with the tire delfated.


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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
The bike came to me like this:



I bought the wheels on eBay, used a Sakae Ringyo crank I had, picked up the handlebars and pedals locally, Tektro brakes from BikeTools, etc., rack from a pay-it-forward, generator (Lucas! -- it even works) and headlamp bracket from a trade with cudak888, basket from Home Depot, et voilą!

Just in time for her 21st birthday -- tomorrow!
You're a good dad.

How hard was it to find a spindle/bb cups that fit?
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On the ladies Sports, was there any problem with clearance between the Tektro 800a and the front fender? I tried installing a front 800a but it seemed to hit the fender, especially when the brake was applied. Was in a hurry so just put the stock front caliper back on. The rear works 800a works great.
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Get centerpulls, they work very nicely. Just needs a little cable pulley to transition it in the back on a ladies frame. You can even find the ones with the Raleigh decals on them.
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I just spoke to the main mechanic at Dutch Bike to see what he thinks, and he wants to see the bike himself before we do anything more. His buddy who worked on it for an hour is great, but Fritz is a miracle man. He said he could then talk to me about replacements, if it actually needs one. Going to take it in on Saturday.

Those centerpulls look beautiful, incidently, Nomad. I've always liked the way you painted that bike. Do you have a full shot?
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Thanks, I need to take a full shot of it again, I've since added decals with "raleigh" on the seat tube and the gold polished headbadge back on and the Heron crest on the center rear fender. I've replaced the shifter with a new SA one as well.

Can't see the pinstripe details in here either.

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