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Old 06-19-11, 08:32 PM
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"Grail"? Whatever.

It dawned on me a while ago, I don't really have a grail bike. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great bikes I'd love to own or take for a spin, but if I could pick any experience that is bike related, be it own/ride a Singer, ride in the TDF on a whatever, own 5 Herse bikes, I'd pick none of those.

If I had a choice between owning any of those bikes/doing any of those things, VS completing a cross country unsupported bike tour just once in my lifetime, I will ALWAYS pick the tour.

So my "grail" isnt a bike at all, but to finally bike tour across the US. Not a difficult goal really, though I'd really like to be able to do it both with my father and my son on the same ride. I don't know if i'll be able to make that part happen or not.

So that said, what is your "grail"?

That's ok if it's still just to ride or own a stupid Herse
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Old 06-19-11, 08:37 PM
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I'm still searching for it.

edit: that's not true. WTF was I thinking? I found it. 20 years ago. And I married her.

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Old 06-19-11, 08:43 PM
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Old 06-19-11, 08:46 PM
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But your idea of riding across country with your dad and kid's pretty admirable. Unless my (as of yet) unborn kid can do this when he's 12, it's probably not going to happen for me.
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I will ALWAYS pick the tour.
Ditto.
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I'm of the same mind, I don't really have an "ultimate" bike. There are lots of them I'd like to own, and I also realize that there are probably plenty that would make me salivate which haven't even appeared on my radar yet...
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Old 06-19-11, 09:11 PM
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What's a grail? Hell, I'm still trying to get my arse over the mountain without walking. I'm taking baby steps.... As far as a bike goes? My current project will (except for the lack of chrome) be exactly what I want, so I've sort of created my own grail bike.
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Old 06-19-11, 09:19 PM
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Six day CCM track bike made by Doc Morten from the 30's. I had one in my hands but Gary Duke opted out of selling it to me with a promise of maybe later. 3 years later, this conflagration melted it back into the earth from whence it came. That and many other historical cycling artifacts.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/martinr...7603952112067/

I grew up near the CCM factory in Weston and knew many people working there. It's personal.

Here's another Morten bike...https://www.bikespecialties.com/vinta...docmorten.html

Many of his bikes appear in the book Six Days of Madness. He built the frames and then tended to the wounded on the sixes circuit in the NorthEast.

Outstanding book

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Don't really have one. But if I had to choose right now, it would be any super cool Japanese or European touring bike (cantis preferred) and a Nice Reynolds framed English bike. In 55-57cm top tube lengths.

Heck, I'd even take a nice frameset right now (matching my above description, of course).
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One day I will build myself the "perfect" bike, but in the meantime I've been wondering what would be involved if I wanted to bring back a CCM on my next visit to Canada.

If shipping wasn't prohibitive, I'd have one of my friends in Japan send me a mamachari.
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Oh, you're talking about bikes? I guess a 1970 Cinelli SC. There, I picked one. A Masi GC would work just as well. But, the ability to still ride them is more precious. Lemme tell ya.
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I'm still searching for it.

edit: that's not true. WTF was I thinking? I found it. 20 years ago. And I married her.
Nice answer!
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I want a very old custom racing bike to restore.
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I do. It frequently pops up on the web in all kinds of bikepr0n blogs: the Pinarello in banesto edition, full record with shamals, like this one owned by a German guy.


Pinarello Banesto by no*dice, on Flickr

But like Holiday76, I think realizing a cool biking goal that brings you physically and mentally on a higher plane is worth more than a few bits of steel and aluminium.

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I want a very old custom racing bike to restore.
+1

Not terribly picky about the pedigree, actually, but I'd love to have a project with suicide FD, vintage lightweight.
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Old 06-20-11, 06:34 AM
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Hmm. Well, Holiday, I think you're confusing the concepts of 'Holy Grail' and 'pipe dream.' I would totally love to get my whole family out on bikes for a cross-country tour; or even just a good week-long tour somewhere interesting and scenic, like somewhere between the Pacific Ocean and Missouri River. I'll probably have to settle for doing this with my daughter, and that'll be good enough for me. I agree that this dream is more important to me than owning any particular bike; I guess the hunt for the perfect century machine is in many ways a substitute for touring because, frankly, it's much cheaper. Riding across the country, even at a 100-mile-a-day average, would cause me to lose way more days of work than I can afford.
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I don't have a grail bike, as with my self imposed bike budget, I don't have the dollars to get one. My limit: no bike can cost more than a new entry level road bike at a LBS. With some careful shopping, I have been able to fit some pretty nice bikes within this limit.

+1 A grail trip or experience is of more interest than any grail "object".

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My limit: no bike can cost more than a new entry level road bike at a LBS.
Oh, sure, now we just need to define "entry level."
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Perhaps, in the end, we discover the "Grail" was more a thrill of the chase than it was the capture and the true prize was in our hands the entire time?
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Hmm. Well, Holiday, I think you're confusing the concepts of 'Holy Grail' and 'pipe dream.'
no, i completely understand the difference. I guess I'm just saying in the end the "dream" will always trump the "grail".
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Can't you do the dream ride on your grail bike? Have it all, I say!

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I'd like to have a custom bike built.
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this was one of my dumber threads.
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this was one of my dumber threads.
You're just a dreamer.
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