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Old 06-23-11, 09:09 PM
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Parts to keep or sell for my touring rebuild

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I am in process of building up from bare frame and fork a Mercian steel touring bike. I just purchased a Fuji League from 1984 as quite a nice selection of components. Which of these are worthy of sitting on my lovely Mercian frame and which should i sell on.
  • B114 Nitto Handlebars
  • Nitto Techtronic Stem
  • UKAI rear wheel 700X25
  • Suzue Sealed Tech Hubs
  • Dia Compe 500 front and rear canti brakes
  • Dia Compe lever (i think model is 144G but not sure)
  • SUntour Cyclone front derailleur
  • Suntour Cyclone rear derailleur
  • Sugino RT Cranks
  • Sugino SP-KC seatpost (the one with the ruler markings)
  • MKS pedals (i think but cannot see any markings)

The friction shifters won't work as they dont come with a clamp for the DT and need to sit on a braze on posts

So which should make the cut?

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Hi All

I am in process of building up from bare frame and fork a Mercian steel touring bike. I just purchased a Fuji League from 1984 as quite a nice selection of components. Which of these are worthy of sitting on my lovely Mercian frame and which should i sell on.
  • B114 Nitto Handlebars
  • Nitto Techtronic Stem
  • UKAI rear wheel 700X25
  • Suzue Sealed Tech Hubs
  • Dia Compe front and rear canti brakes
  • Dia Compe lever (i think model is 144G but not sure)
  • SUntour Cyclone front derailleur
  • Suntour Cyclone rear derailleur
  • Sugino RT Cranks
  • Sugino SP-KC seatpost (the one with the ruler markings)
  • MKS pedals (i think but cannot see any markings)

The friction shifters won't work as they dont come with a clamp for the DT and need to sit on a braze on posts

So which should make the cut?

Thanks

Andy
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All of them are fine IMHO.
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Maybe switch to bar-end shifters since the DT shifters won't work. Its more touring appropriate anyway.
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Yes - that was my thinking too. I just need to check if the openings on these old Nitto bars is wide enough. I hope so.

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Any recommendations that of what would work well in terms of bar end friction shifters on my Nitto B114's

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http://www.rivbike.com/products/show...end-kit/17-089
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The Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and Sugino RT crankset are more suited to a road bike than a touring bike. Look for a triple crankset, long-cage rear derailleur and matching front.

For your bar-end shifters, check out the Dia-Compe barcons or the Shimano ones. If you're trying to stay vintage, you can get Suntour or Campagnolo barcons.
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I want to see photos of this Fuji League...

RT's came in triples, spec'ed on some Fuji Touring Series models.

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I will post some pics of the frame but the crank is a double not a triple.
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Andy, I'd reuse most everything. A set of SunTour bar end shifters and a triple crankset (cartridge BB if replacement needed for the triple). What gearing is on the freewheel?

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I agree, we need to see some pictures of this Fuji league to see its components If the rear der is a long cage it should work fine for a touring bike, the cyclone mkii stuff came stock on a lot of touring bikes (trek 520 etc).

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I will post some pics of the frame but the crank is a double not a triple.
Does the crank have mounting bolts for a granny gear? Sometimes double crank-arms that also came in triple versions already have the mounting holes for a granny gear and you can just add one (although you may need to change the bottom bracket spindle length). I had a bridgestone 550 like this before where they actually mentioned it in the bridgestone catalogs.

Also, for bar-end shifters, I've had some old sets of suntour bar-cons that were ok but had a tendency to loosen up and lose locknuts. For the price of what a vintage suntour bar-con setup goes for on ebay, I recently bought a new set of ultegra bar-end shifters from amazon. It looks like they're up to $63 now with free shipping there, still a pretty good deal with all of the cables and cable stops etc:

Shimano SL-BS64 Ultegra Bar End Shifter Set (8-Speed)

I used them on my Miyata 210 and I needed a separate clamp-on cable stop since my frame doesn't have downtube shifter braze-ons, but they are working great so far!
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All bar end shifters have the same OD. They'll all work with your Nitto drop bars.
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Here are some pics - not the best but they do show some of the components etc.

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Andiroo99, Do you plan to loaded tour on the Mercian (roughly 30+ lbs. of gear)? If so the Fuji's drivetrain isn't ideal for that purpose. Over nights and light touring (-30 lbs. gear) or credit card touring would be more in league (pun intended) depending on the terrain.

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Yes - i have a Surly to take the heavy loads. This is light weekend stuff. I want a bike that is more nimble than my Surly and a little quicker - so probably more Audax than real tourer.
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Yes - i have a Surly to take the heavy loads. This is light weekend stuff. I want a bike that is more nimble than my Surly and a little quicker - so probably more Audax than real tourer.
Should be a stunner.

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I would reuse everything but the cranks and go to a triple instead which means the front Cyclone may not handle the third ring if your wanting to tour on it, unless that Cyclone is a 7000 which it appears not to be in the photo, or you could buy one off of Ebay that's NOS and then you would have a matching Cyclone driveline. Also Suntour XCD and the XC9000 can handle triples.

TA makes a great triple crankset and I think their still being made today. Also the first generation of Cyclone GT, RD and FD also will work, but the 7000 is more refined.

Another issue may be the rear derailleur, if the Cyclone is a short cage derailleur then your going to have to replace it with a long cage to take the longer chain wrap needed for the larger gears. The pic you showed cut the cage off so I can't tell what you have.
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