OK, I have the Dura Ace 5 speed 14-22 freewheel in place, and the results are the same..... FLAWLESS.

I'm just not sure why so many insist that this derailleur has shifting issues? This is the first time ever shifting one for me, and I am having zero problems so I'm just a little interested as to why others have so much trouble.

Maybe they do not have it setup and adjusted correctly, or maybe it's just user error, I don't know? I do know it's an outstanding derailleur which shifts great, and looks to be absolutly bullet proof.

I really feel the key is, proper chain length, correct adjustment, and keeping within the correct gear range.

I kinda like my Cyclone and Suntour FW :D

Hi Kurt,

No, it's a Shimano 600 6 speed. I now have on my Dura Ace 14-22 and it is just as nice to shift. I have now tried the Shimano 600 13-23 (twisted tooth) the Everest Extraleggera 13-23, and the Dura Ace 14-22 and they all are flawless..... Again, I don't know what all the talk of having to overshift is about, but I find no need to do so.

I agree that it does not care for the 14-28 but again, it was NOT designed with that range in mind. Like stated above, you don't take an F-1 through the city streets of NYC.......

My sentiments, too!

I love SunTour, but the Honor was flawed in the material it used. It was extremely easy to bend, so it was susceptible to whacks from dropping the bike or self-closing doors.

Some Eagles came with a built-in guard, perfect for careless 13-year-olds. That derailleur would usually last long.

Speaking of the beauty of the Nuovo Record, how about those hearts? They're my favorite feature. And they're so smooth! I was showing it to a friend, and he turned to me and said, "Do you need a moment?" :lol:

Dura-Ace 7400+Cyclone (or better) for me! This is a total "benchmark" setup in my world: if something shifts better than this, I'd like to know about it, and if it doesn't shift as well then it's useless to me. Or certainly less enjoyable. My Sachs Quarz shifts very nicely over a 14-30 7-speed cogset (half-step with 46/50 up front) and looks for all the world like a rebadged, long-cage Superbe-- but it's not Dura-Ace+Cyclone. Almost, but not quite.

So I've got a NR rear and a SR rear-- of the two, which is the better performer? Intended freewheel is a 6-speed Oro, 13-23.

Well, I've had Dura Ace and Cyclone both, and they do not shift any better than the Campy NR (at least for me). This must be a Campy vs Shimano vs Suntour mindset....... I have used Shimano and Suntour exclusively for many years, and just now tried the Campy stuff and I'm sorry I didn't try it sooner. I read all the horror stories about the shifting issues and always steered away from the stuff. After all the years I should of known better than to listen to all the ranting and just have given it a try for myself.

I think either the NR or SR will shift with great accuracy over the mentioned cog. I really feel the NR was designed for a five speed fw not a six but it does shift fine over six.

Yeah, not unless you don't mind having its wheels jacked! ;)

BTW, the Shimano Eagle (II) was a great shifting derailleur for being all steel. The fact that you can use it as a ball peen hammer and can opener was besides the point.

BTW2, I have a Winner Pro 13-21 Ultra 7 freewheel and Sedisport chain playing nicely with a Campy SR RD. It has always shifted predictably, kachunk. Not nearly as smooth as a Dura Ace EX with similar set up. But no problems with a Suntour freewheel.

I'm not even going to say anything!

Oh come on, play along:twitchy:

I was reluctant to do so, but I'll chime in anyway as I used an NR RD for many years in the 80's 90's
I had what one might call typical mid range gearing on my Peugeot in the 80's and 90.s with a Maillard 700FW with a 6 speed 14/23 cogset and typical 52/42 rings. Used a Cyclone MkII and a NR RDs back to back for many years during those years, alternating between the two per what I feel like running. Definitely, the NR was always slower and noisier going over gears than the Cyclone. There were lots of instances when I had my Sedisport chain plates ride the tips of the grooved Maillard cogs on the back for a bit before falling into gear after I follow up with an adjustment of the lever. The Cyclone in contrast was ALWAYS instant and precise chunk - chunk through the gears. The NR also almost maxes out the retrofriction levers on the bike when shifting to the lowest ratio cogs, while I don't remember the Cyclone doing so, so longer lever throws for the NR = slower action. I also had to do a more pronounced overshift to get the NR to go into the next gear, compared to the Cyclone. I'm sure I'll get a few comments doubting my assesment of the NR from fans of the derailleur, but that's just the way it performed on my bike. If anything, on aesthetics, I do find the classic details on the NR more beautiful than the Cyclone's more streamlined modern looks. I also ran a Simplex SX610 RD which fell between the Cyclone and NR in terms of shifting performance, so I can definitely say that the NR falls short compared to most slant parallelogram RDs of the 80's
I run straight parallelogram Mavic RD these days on my two bikes but they definitely shift better than the NR as they have cage height adjustment that lets me get the jockey wheels track closer to the rear cogs. NR's just older tech that will never perform as good as these newer RDs. It's not bad, Certainly bulletproof and won't break or wear out quickly on you, but just not as good as the newer stuff.
JMOs.

Chombi

Chombi,

Thanks for your input........... I really believe that some people DO have issues whith the NR's shifting, and I do not have the answer. I do know that for me it works flawlessly, but then again many things play into how a bike shifts. One thing for sure is, I do not race so shifting gears to me is not something I get overly concerned with as far as the occasional botched shift. Lets face it, it's friction shifting were talking about here not Indexed so it will NEVER be 100% perfect cause we are not 100% perfect each and every time. If I was that concerned I would switch over to indexed and be done, but even then it's not always 100%.......