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Old 07-25-11, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by -holiday76
wow, people don't like the Riv comparison eh?

If you read my post you'll see where I said I'd reserve my opinions on the ride until I rode one so don't get yourself too worked up.

See my above post as it pertains to the Riv comparison.

now you can r-e-l-a-x, ya crazy ass De Rosa owners.
...but you did express an uninformed opinion that compares De Rosa enthusiasts to Riv owners, in a very vague, uninformed, and unfounded way.

Why do you feel the need to stir the pot, when the focus should be on Aaron's very nice bicycle?

...and name calling so early in the day. Says something about the person, doesn't it.

Did you have a "bad" weekend perchance?
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Originally Posted by -holiday76
So you don't agree De Rosas have a cult following or you don't agree Rivs have a cult following? Aside from that there really wasnt anything else to disagree with.

Am ii missing something or are you guys just still angry I used Riv and De Rosa in the same sentence?

I'm sure there are other analogies that work as well, Colnago might be one of them.
I disagree because I think EVERY bike is going to have devotees/cults. If the basis of your analogy is that both bikes have cults - well ok, but I don't see the cults as being similar at all. I'm certainly not angry over the analogy, I just don't think it's really - relevant.

I'm honestly more interested to see what the heavier hitters have to say about their preference for De Rosas - I thought Fender's question was a good one. I think I've said elsewhere that I wasn't wild about my 1991 De Rosa SLX (notice I don't still own it).

OFG, GMG, Picchio, Repachage, Citoyen, BBM - assemble!

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Originally Posted by gomango
...but you did express an uninformed opinion that compares De Rosa enthusiasts to Riv owners, in a very vague, uninformed, and unfounded way.

Why do you feel the need to stir the pot, when the focus should be on Aaron's very nice bicycle?

...and name calling so early in the day. Says something about the person, doesn't it.

Did you have a "bad" weekend perchance?
No pot stirring intended. I was simply pointing out that there seems to be a cult following (one that I wouldnt mind looking into btw). I think you guys are getting a little too serious about this entire thing.

I wasnt trying to ruin Aarons thread. it's a beautiful bicycle!

As for calling you guys "crazy ass de rosa owners", if that's name calling , I'm sorry. Again, I don't take this stuff too seriously, and I really didnt mean for that to offend. If you knew me or ever read my posts you might get that.

I do find it entertaining the reactions to my analogy, but I'm really not here to piss you all off.

I'll stay out of this thread now - if you want my posts gone report them and i'm sure someone might take care of them.

Oh and, I had a great weekend btw, and thanks for asking.
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C'mon guys - there's no ned for animosity. We're all big boys, I'm not offended and we can all play together nicely. If Holiday wasn't a Yeti, I'd offer to let him borrow mine!

Holiday sometimes has a well, blunt and sarcastic approach. It's part of his charm, he does break stones sometimes, especially his friends (so do I!). Others here sometimes bash bikes they don't understand and it can lead to some sensitivity. I think communicating on the net can be fraught with misunderstandings as there is no intonation on screen. I can certainly understand why Holiday's comments were read that way, but I don't think it was intended to be WWIII.

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I remember that while I was lusting over Colnagos, Merckx's, and Pinarellos with fancier paint schemes, the mechanics in the shop all rode and lusted after DeRosas.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
I remember that while I was lusting over Colnagos, Merckx's, and Pinarellos with fancier paint schemes, the mechanics in the shop all rode and lusted after DeRosas.
That's pretty much my view, though I've heard nothing but great things about Merckx. Mine is hard to judge because it was custom for Steve Bauer and has unorthodox geometry. It's not a bike I'm in love with.

The suck about my Primato is that I'm not sure how much of what I'm loving is the frame and how much are the tubies. I REALLY enjoyed the ride yesterday!!! I also DEFINITELY felt the crank length difference.

OFG often seems to be right, and he was right about something else as well - it's early to say, but I think the Girardi is proving a much nicer ride than my other plain white Regal.
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Rive.....rside. Sorry.....
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
Rive.....rside. Sorry.....


Seriously - saying Rivendell here is like saying Beetlejuice.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake


Seriously - saying Rivendell here is like saying Beetlejuice.
Ha, Stare into a mirror and say Grant Petersen three times... I dare you.
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Very nice Aaron, your collection just blows me away.

Did you say in this thread where you found it at and I missed it?
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Aaron you bring your De Rosa, I'll bring my Riv and we will hold hands and ride into the sunset...."Ebony & Ivory, live toghther in perfect harmony.........."

On an unrelated note, I am also really noticing how much more I like the 175mm crank length than 170mm. Who knew something so minor could be that noticable.....well, not me anyway.....
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Coffee just blew out of my nose!!! Thanks Fender...THANKS A LOT! If you have a 170mm 8sp record crank, let's trade!

Kobe - OFG messaged me after it came up for sale in Austin. The price, design and size were all perfect and it was destined to be

I was actually second in the cue - one guy was even faster. I actually know that person and found out exactly what happened afterwards. He went out to see the Primato and I thought I had no chance because I couldn't imagine anyone passing at that price. He got out there and fell in love with a few other bikes the owner had for sale (he has an A+, first rate collection). He passed in favor of some other things. The seller called and told me I was next. I payed via paypal IMMEDIATELY and sealed the deal.

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Droooool. That is all.
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Did you do the mirror thing yet? Holy S*** it works.

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Aaron, you should buy this and make a key chain holder from it....

https://cgi.ebay.com/Rosa-Steel-Front...item4aaa719f31
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Did you do the mirror thing yet? Holy S*** it works.

When I conjure him, I burn pine tar soap, proofide and some wool underwear in an investment cast bottom bracket shell. That way he will do my bidding but not control my mind.....
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Aaron, you should buy this and make a key chain holder from it....

https://cgi.ebay.com/Rosa-Steel-Front...item4aaa719f31
I'm thinking a zipper hold! We actually got a combination lock for the dront door, so I rarely use keys anymore.
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When I conjure him, I burn pine tar soap, proofide and some wool underwear in an investment cast bottom bracket shell. That way he will do my bidding but not control my mind.....
According to ancient lore, GP can only infect one's brain when they spend too much time on slow, wide tires. The surest way to prevent GP infection is a good set of 23cs on your door knob.

Apparently 11speed Ergos and full touring panniers will also save one from his clutches.
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Aaron, BBM, OFG (and any other DeRosa owners);

I know folks LOVE these bikes and I was wondering if anyone has determined why they seem/are different from other similar models/brand? Is it differences in builder skill, materials, geometry, all of the above? Anything thing that is definitively different that you know of?
It is pretty simple, I just love how my Professional rides. I have 2 Cioccs, 2 Colnagos, a Serotta, 2 Merckxs, a Battaglin and a Concorde, the De Rosa gets the most saddle time since I tracked it down last year. In fact, I intend to thin the herd quite a bit now that I have a perfect bike.
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Rule #1: Never mention Rivendell in a post about other bikes.

Rule #2: See rule #1.

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I'm willing to bet that the guy who sold the DeRosa Primoto to Aaron, also owns a couple Rivendells, a couple Cinellis, and Richard Sachs. If you know him, stay away from him. He might brainwash you.
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I'm willing to bet that the guy who sold the DeRosa Primoto to Aaron, also owns a couple Rivendells, a couple Cinellis, and Richard Sachs. If you know him, stay away from him. He might brainwash you.
- hey there! Hope you like what I did with it.

I really, really like my Sachs, but I really dislike indexed DT shifting, which I think influences me when I pass it up for other bikes. I've still never ridden a Cinelli. One came up on Serotta Forums that I keep coming close to pulling the trigger on, but the timing is bad.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
There are people who, with a straight face, extol the virtues of the LHT.
I do that nearly every day. I have no problem keeping a straight face while doing it, either, and I don't see why anyone would. It's a fine bike for what it's designed for and especially for the price.
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I sold the Ciocc, the Cinelli all but gathers dust. I still like to ride the Palo Alto and the Pogliaghi. Looking at this month's logs, I have 14 rides totaling 325 miles but only 13,828' of climbing. 3 rides on the Palo Alto, 1 on the Pogliaghi, 1 on the Cinelli, everything else on the De Rosa. Didn't even realize it until I looked just now. Oh - and I'm on vacation for a week in the Eastern Sierra. Take a guess what bike came along on the trip...... go ahead, throw a dart.

When I first bought my De Rosa, I did a fairly extensive comparison between the four bikes I own - you can go seach for it if you like. It's no secret that I like pretty bikes, but that's not near enough. I do a lot of climbing although I'm not good at it. The De Rosa is as good a climber as I've ridden, but I'm not the one to judge the climbing ability of a bike. I am a fair hand at descending, and the De Rosa is a wonderful thing to be astride at 45 mph. It handles quickly and precisely, without being twitchy.

Why do I like my De Rosa? It is singularly beautiful, it has exceptional handling, it is a comfortable all day driver. It makes me think about riding and it makes me want to go for a ride.

It is everything a lugged steel bike should be.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
- hey there! Hope you like what I did with it.

I really, really like my Sachs, but I really dislike indexed DT shifting, which I think influences me when I pass it up for other bikes.
Except for the wheels, it looks the same. Ain't nothing like a well crafted, bright red Italian bicycle. Before you retire, you need a Ducati 1098 in red and a Ferrari F40 in red.

I'm glad you like tubulars. Nice aren't they!


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