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I straightened and cleaned my old Honjos fenders and moved them over to the International. One not so surprising difference, the lower brake bridge needs a shorter L-bracket - I used a front on the GP to make the reach. Need a Honjo rear L-bracket for the International. Also new U-stays. My cut rear stay was just barely enough with the set-screw fender mounts. Surprisingly, my cut front U-stay was a few mm short and would only bite in half width of an R-clip. So I'm I ordering those three parts - will need slightly longer stays front and rear when I get clearance where I want it. But made the fenders (just) clear and went for a 30-mi ride yesterday.
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Looks terrific! Personal taste, I like the full fenders much better the the shortys.
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we're having a messy winter, also, and I want to ride the bike.
The fenders came from my GP and were messed up in the wreck. I worked on them a bit to straighten them.
They're rolling now, and they'll be even better when I get the 3 hardware pieces. The worst clearance point is at the rear brake bridge, which you can see in my photo above.
ps - those shorties are stainless, and the full-coverage Honjos are about the same weight.
The fenders came from my GP and were messed up in the wreck. I worked on them a bit to straighten them.
They're rolling now, and they'll be even better when I get the 3 hardware pieces. The worst clearance point is at the rear brake bridge, which you can see in my photo above.
ps - those shorties are stainless, and the full-coverage Honjos are about the same weight.
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I straightened and cleaned my old Honjos fenders and moved them over to the International. One not so surprising difference, the lower brake bridge needs a shorter L-bracket - I used a front on the GP to make the reach. Need a Honjo rear L-bracket for the International. Also new U-stays. My cut rear stay was just barely enough with the set-screw fender mounts. Surprisingly, my cut front U-stay was a few mm short and would only bite in half width of an R-clip. So I'm I ordering those three parts - will need slightly longer stays front and rear when I get clearance where I want it. But made the fenders (just) clear and went for a 30-mi ride yesterday.
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Way back on November 6, Sir_Name wrote:
Thank you for this suggestion. I just moved the brake forward, and it works well. It's not the prettiest thing, but it's been done before, and it works.
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your International has prettier lugs than mine.
That is a great solution, and agree, it looks good.
ps, there is a guy on ebay who has several NOS 610 rear, and he accepted my offer quickly.
That is a great solution, and agree, it looks good.
ps, there is a guy on ebay who has several NOS 610 rear, and he accepted my offer quickly.
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The gal who made my headbadge already makes the perfect thing for Tom's bike.
Edit: Yes, Laura, that's her.
Edit: Yes, Laura, that's her.
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OK I see now he recommended Jenn Green headbadges, and found headbadges.com. What great stuff! A bit spendier than I anticipated, but I'll lust after it for a while and eventually get something. So many custom Surly badges! I need that Krampus!
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Whew! I just read through this entire thread, and I must say, it was pretty entertaining and informative. There are not too many threads about a bike build that last for 7-8 years! I just picked up an International frame that should arrive in a few days - I hope it’s going to be my size. Since it’s only a frame, I pretty much have a blank slate for a build, and much of the info on this thread will help a lot as I proceed. Thanks to all of you who have contributed!
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Oh boy, here we go again! The International is the gift that keeps on giving. Mine has changed a lot since that early incarnation, and I'm fiddling with it some more while I heal from rotator cuff surgery. A Suntour XCD high-flange cassette hub is on the way so I can rebuild the rear wheel and convert to indexed shifting while maintaining the vintage look.
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If the frame fits me, my first inclination is to build it up as a 3-speed. We’ll see!
I’m more than willing to look at more pics of International projects.
I’m more than willing to look at more pics of International projects.
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Thanks, @ddeand. Happy to entertain.
Here is my most recent picture of the bike. It now has a C17 saddle. It feels different from a B17, but I love it equally well.
For years I've been meaning to put fenders on the bike, but I still haven't gotten around to it. I guess I'll do it when I remember where I put all my round tuits.
The rear tire is wearing out, so soon I'll be putting on some slightly used Compass tires. The current Clement tires are 32mm wide. The new tires will be nominally 28mm. I suspect it won't be a dealbreaker. I need a little extra clearance for fenders.
Here is my most recent picture of the bike. It now has a C17 saddle. It feels different from a B17, but I love it equally well.
For years I've been meaning to put fenders on the bike, but I still haven't gotten around to it. I guess I'll do it when I remember where I put all my round tuits.
The rear tire is wearing out, so soon I'll be putting on some slightly used Compass tires. The current Clement tires are 32mm wide. The new tires will be nominally 28mm. I suspect it won't be a dealbreaker. I need a little extra clearance for fenders.
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I've been hankering to build up a fendered, chain cased, IGH messy conditions city bike for a while now. I was thinking about using an '84 Trek 520 or 620? Would a cantied tourer be a good candidate, yah think?
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Those would be great. I test rode a 720 in 1984, and it was amazing. I think it had a longer wheelbase than the International.
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Is fitting an upright about the same as a drop? My tourers tend to be big/French fit, but I have a couple that that are more in the middle of my range of comfort zone.
AND before I forget, I LOVE your International! I started with an interest in racers, but I've done a complete about face. Give me a comfy bike I can pack a lunch on and ride for hours and I'm good to go.
AND before I forget, I LOVE your International! I started with an interest in racers, but I've done a complete about face. Give me a comfy bike I can pack a lunch on and ride for hours and I'm good to go.
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I don't know. There is a section of BF where purported experts on fit weigh in. Fitting your bike
AND before I forget, I LOVE your International! I started with an interest in racers, but I've done a complete about face. Give me a comfy bike I can pack a lunch on and ride for hours and I'm good to go.
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Thanks, @ddeand. Happy to entertain.
Here is my most recent picture of the bike. It now has a C17 saddle. It feels different from a B17, but I love it equally well.
Here is my most recent picture of the bike. It now has a C17 saddle. It feels different from a B17, but I love it equally well.
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ascherer, I love how your avatar is looking 'up' at the previous poster you're responding to!
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Here is my renovated 1974 Raleigh International. I painted the frame with a brush in 2013 and 2014, and I built the bike up for the first time in 2015. It has undergone many changes. For about eight years, I had Nitto Mustache handlebars on it, which made the bike look cool, but I had to face the fact that they don’t work for me.
New tires, chain, new old rack, new stem, new old stem adapter, and new handlebar. I replaced the stem several times in three weeks, and now I have a stem adapter and new modern stem. I cleaned everything. Reinstalled dynamo headlight and taillight that had been off for a couple of years.
Boy these Continental GP 5000 tires in 32 mm are amazing. The tires I had were brutally harsh, and combined with the handlebar I had which put me in an uncomfortable position, I wondered if I could make this bike truly comfortable. Now I have hope. My local bike shop owner thinks I’ll like riding these tires tubeless, and for the first time, I’m considering trying that. No decision yet.
Plans for the near future:
- Further adjust the angle of the handlebar and the mounting points for the levers
- Reapply handlebar tape
- Adjust the rack to be level
- Probably use a different dynamo taillight
- Add a mud flap to the front fender
- Build a new rear wheel, since this one is borrowed from another bike of mine
New tires, chain, new old rack, new stem, new old stem adapter, and new handlebar. I replaced the stem several times in three weeks, and now I have a stem adapter and new modern stem. I cleaned everything. Reinstalled dynamo headlight and taillight that had been off for a couple of years.
Boy these Continental GP 5000 tires in 32 mm are amazing. The tires I had were brutally harsh, and combined with the handlebar I had which put me in an uncomfortable position, I wondered if I could make this bike truly comfortable. Now I have hope. My local bike shop owner thinks I’ll like riding these tires tubeless, and for the first time, I’m considering trying that. No decision yet.
Plans for the near future:
- Further adjust the angle of the handlebar and the mounting points for the levers
- Reapply handlebar tape
- Adjust the rack to be level
- Probably use a different dynamo taillight
- Add a mud flap to the front fender
- Build a new rear wheel, since this one is borrowed from another bike of mine
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Looks like you still haven't let it go outside.
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A couple of weeks ago, I started cleaning it up. It was disgusting. Sorry I don’t have pictures from then. I guess I clean this bike about once every two years. I hope to treat the drivetrain better from now on, but you know how that goes. I am embarrassed how bad the chain was, and I’m surprised the new one doesn’t skip over the cassette. I try to replace my chains before they’re very worn, but this one went unnoticed for too long.
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This is what I think of as a baller’s bike — even if you don’t love the entire build, you can tell from the choices and mods that the builder knew what they were doing.
That said I know Tom’s a mess, so there’s that too. 😉
That said I know Tom’s a mess, so there’s that too. 😉
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