The New Classic Rigs and Rides Thread 1.1
08-18-21, 09:37 PM
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Three of these I built or acquired this year, and the white bike has been with me a long time.
1986 Jeff Lyon
1979 Michael Johnson
1984 Specialized Expedition
1988 Stan Johnson
1986 Jeff Lyon
1979 Michael Johnson
1984 Specialized Expedition
1988 Stan Johnson
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08-18-21, 09:51 PM
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Serotta Rear Triangle
I still remember the first time I climbed a hill on it. I got out of the saddle and then I sat down. I thought I broke the frame,
as it compressed and then sprang back!
as it compressed and then sprang back!
10-23-21, 03:51 PM
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New here, but I have a few old steel frames. I used to ride a Croll, very pretty bike with stunning blue paint job (although I am biased) until I cracked the frame a couple years ago. Now on a series 3 paramount, also blue, just not quite as pretty.
10-25-21, 05:41 PM
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These are finally done. Some not so c parts, but mid 90s is v by any stretch of the definition. Lugged steel frames too.
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12-08-21, 10:11 PM
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An alternative to my 1988 Waterford Paramount
Hi folks,
Thanks to @machinist42, I now have a great alternative to my beloved 88 Waterford Paramount. Jeff (manchinist42) provided me with a very nice ‘87 Schwinn Prologue frame set. It could use a bit of sprucing up, it but was clean and ready to build.
Using a bunch of bin or recycled parts, here’s what went into it:
Shimano 600 Headset
Cinelli XA bars & stem
Shimano 105 2 X 10 “brifters”
Shimano 600 Tri-color dual pivot brake calipers
Ultegra 6600 Derailleurs
Sugino XD2 Compact Crankset with new, 48 + 36, 10 spd rings.
Unbranded alloy single bolt seat post
Shimano 11-28 cassette
DT Swiss wheels that are branded “CODA”
Undecided on wheels & tires, units shown are for testing
So, why did I need an alternative to the Paramount? Two years ago on a brisk mid-autumn day, I took it out for a quick 10 mile ride. The next morning my shoulders were sore. I figured the cold had just caused them to tighten up. That day I did the ride again to loosen them up. Surprise, the next morning they, particularly the left one, were really hurting. A rub down with some ointment and I got thru the day. The next morning the right was a little better, but the left was really sore and I could only raise my hand to about ear level. Off to the doctor where I was given a sling and a Cortisone shot & scheduled a follow appt 5 days later. There wasn’t much improvement and an MRI plus some other testing. It was determined that I had some pinched nerves and tendonitis in both shoulders. I was put on a physical therapy program and am almost back to normal. After researching smoother riding bikes from the Schwinn family, I decided on one of the “Schwinnasonic” models. First was a PDG Paramount that, while it rode nicely, was a bit too big and had a very high BB. The Prologue is almost perfect. Unfortunately, our weather has limited my ride time since I’m a bit of a wimp. I don’t ride in the rain or below 50 degrees. In the dozen or so miles I’ve put on the Prologue, the fit is very good plus it rides comfortably and handles well.
I’ll keep the Paramount for short rides in warm weather and pass it on to our son when I can no longer cycle. Hopefully, he’ll enjoy it as much as I have.
Cheers,
Van
Thanks to @machinist42, I now have a great alternative to my beloved 88 Waterford Paramount. Jeff (manchinist42) provided me with a very nice ‘87 Schwinn Prologue frame set. It could use a bit of sprucing up, it but was clean and ready to build.
Using a bunch of bin or recycled parts, here’s what went into it:
Shimano 600 Headset
Cinelli XA bars & stem
Shimano 105 2 X 10 “brifters”
Shimano 600 Tri-color dual pivot brake calipers
Ultegra 6600 Derailleurs
Sugino XD2 Compact Crankset with new, 48 + 36, 10 spd rings.
Unbranded alloy single bolt seat post
Shimano 11-28 cassette
DT Swiss wheels that are branded “CODA”
Undecided on wheels & tires, units shown are for testing
So, why did I need an alternative to the Paramount? Two years ago on a brisk mid-autumn day, I took it out for a quick 10 mile ride. The next morning my shoulders were sore. I figured the cold had just caused them to tighten up. That day I did the ride again to loosen them up. Surprise, the next morning they, particularly the left one, were really hurting. A rub down with some ointment and I got thru the day. The next morning the right was a little better, but the left was really sore and I could only raise my hand to about ear level. Off to the doctor where I was given a sling and a Cortisone shot & scheduled a follow appt 5 days later. There wasn’t much improvement and an MRI plus some other testing. It was determined that I had some pinched nerves and tendonitis in both shoulders. I was put on a physical therapy program and am almost back to normal. After researching smoother riding bikes from the Schwinn family, I decided on one of the “Schwinnasonic” models. First was a PDG Paramount that, while it rode nicely, was a bit too big and had a very high BB. The Prologue is almost perfect. Unfortunately, our weather has limited my ride time since I’m a bit of a wimp. I don’t ride in the rain or below 50 degrees. In the dozen or so miles I’ve put on the Prologue, the fit is very good plus it rides comfortably and handles well.
I’ll keep the Paramount for short rides in warm weather and pass it on to our son when I can no longer cycle. Hopefully, he’ll enjoy it as much as I have.
Cheers,
Van
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12-09-21, 12:20 PM
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This bike has been hanging for quite awhile. The issue is that it is a bit on the small side. It has over 5000 miles under me so it is not a stranger. The Pinarello replaced it in several ways.
I consider this a classic bike. It is period correct and a great ride. I should take some updated pictures of it even though Flickr has a couple of hundred of this bike alone in various states and for various reasons.
1983 Colnago Superissimo on Flickr
My attachment to it is real because it is the replacement for the Le Champion lost in a collision with a car that got in my way.
I consider this a classic bike. It is period correct and a great ride. I should take some updated pictures of it even though Flickr has a couple of hundred of this bike alone in various states and for various reasons.
1983 Colnago Superissimo on FlickrMy attachment to it is real because it is the replacement for the Le Champion lost in a collision with a car that got in my way.
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01-01-22, 11:27 AM
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This is a beauty, what is the top tube length?
[QUOTE=Jacob_R_59;22185658]Here are a few:
3) 1988 64cm Medici Pro-Strada with Campagnolo C Record gruppo and replacement fork. Frame will be offered for sale on this Forum soon as I found a 65cm!
[QUOTE=Jacob_R_59;22185658]Here are a few:
3) 1988 64cm Medici Pro-Strada with Campagnolo C Record gruppo and replacement fork. Frame will be offered for sale on this Forum soon as I found a 65cm!
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01-01-22, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by narwhale100
Fantastic restoration - I've been searching for an Alan Carbino in my size for a nb of yrs. One day...
01-01-22, 07:18 PM
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64cm Medici Pro Strada
Top tube length is 59.5”
01-03-22, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacob_R_59
Top tube length is 59.5”
01-26-22, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior Ryder 00
Hi folks,
Thanks to @machinist42, I now have a great alternative to my beloved 88 Waterford Paramount. Jeff (manchinist42) provided me with a very nice ‘87 Schwinn Prologue frame set. It could use a bit of sprucing up, it but was clean and ready to build.
Using a bunch of bin or recycled parts, here’s what went into it:
Shimano 600 Headset
Cinelli XA bars & stem
Shimano 105 2 X 10 “brifters”
Shimano 600 Tri-color dual pivot brake calipers
Ultegra 6600 Derailleurs
Sugino XD2 Compact Crankset with new, 48 + 36, 10 spd rings.
Unbranded alloy single bolt seat post
Shimano 11-28 cassette
DT Swiss wheels that are branded “CODA”
Undecided on wheels & tires, units shown are for testing
So, why did I need an alternative to the Paramount? Two years ago on a brisk mid-autumn day, I took it out for a quick 10 mile ride. The next morning my shoulders were sore. I figured the cold had just caused them to tighten up. That day I did the ride again to loosen them up. Surprise, the next morning they, particularly the left one, were really hurting. A rub down with some ointment and I got thru the day. The next morning the right was a little better, but the left was really sore and I could only raise my hand to about ear level. Off to the doctor where I was given a sling and a Cortisone shot & scheduled a follow appt 5 days later. There wasn’t much improvement and an MRI plus some other testing. It was determined that I had some pinched nerves and tendonitis in both shoulders. I was put on a physical therapy program and am almost back to normal. After researching smoother riding bikes from the Schwinn family, I decided on one of the “Schwinnasonic” models. First was a PDG Paramount that, while it rode nicely, was a bit too big and had a very high BB. The Prologue is almost perfect. Unfortunately, our weather has limited my ride time since I’m a bit of a wimp. I don’t ride in the rain or below 50 degrees. In the dozen or so miles I’ve put on the Prologue, the fit is very good plus it rides comfortably and handles well.
I’ll keep the Paramount for short rides in warm weather and pass it on to our son when I can no longer cycle. Hopefully, he’ll enjoy it as much as I have.
Cheers,
Van
Thanks to @machinist42, I now have a great alternative to my beloved 88 Waterford Paramount. Jeff (manchinist42) provided me with a very nice ‘87 Schwinn Prologue frame set. It could use a bit of sprucing up, it but was clean and ready to build.
Using a bunch of bin or recycled parts, here’s what went into it:
Shimano 600 Headset
Cinelli XA bars & stem
Shimano 105 2 X 10 “brifters”
Shimano 600 Tri-color dual pivot brake calipers
Ultegra 6600 Derailleurs
Sugino XD2 Compact Crankset with new, 48 + 36, 10 spd rings.
Unbranded alloy single bolt seat post
Shimano 11-28 cassette
DT Swiss wheels that are branded “CODA”
Undecided on wheels & tires, units shown are for testing
So, why did I need an alternative to the Paramount? Two years ago on a brisk mid-autumn day, I took it out for a quick 10 mile ride. The next morning my shoulders were sore. I figured the cold had just caused them to tighten up. That day I did the ride again to loosen them up. Surprise, the next morning they, particularly the left one, were really hurting. A rub down with some ointment and I got thru the day. The next morning the right was a little better, but the left was really sore and I could only raise my hand to about ear level. Off to the doctor where I was given a sling and a Cortisone shot & scheduled a follow appt 5 days later. There wasn’t much improvement and an MRI plus some other testing. It was determined that I had some pinched nerves and tendonitis in both shoulders. I was put on a physical therapy program and am almost back to normal. After researching smoother riding bikes from the Schwinn family, I decided on one of the “Schwinnasonic” models. First was a PDG Paramount that, while it rode nicely, was a bit too big and had a very high BB. The Prologue is almost perfect. Unfortunately, our weather has limited my ride time since I’m a bit of a wimp. I don’t ride in the rain or below 50 degrees. In the dozen or so miles I’ve put on the Prologue, the fit is very good plus it rides comfortably and handles well.
I’ll keep the Paramount for short rides in warm weather and pass it on to our son when I can no longer cycle. Hopefully, he’ll enjoy it as much as I have.
Cheers,
Van
Stage two update on my Prologue project:
First, the latest picture in its RWB theme.
Mechanically, this is what I planned. Next stage will be after I get some miles on it and our weather warms up and dries out. Then, I’ll do some minor rust treatment and a bit of paint touch up. The wheels & HB tape were purchased from our local co-op where I volunteer. The blue housing was left over from a previous project. The blue Soma saddle came from @Shrevvy. The bars, stem, brakes, crankset, shifters, etc. were acquired over the years either as special bargains or from other projects. …and the frameset is from @machinist42.
Time to ride it!
Cheers,
Van
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02-24-22, 03:57 PM
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Finally done - the last of the estate bikes I picked up last spring. 8 spd Campagnolo drivetrain with Martano tubular rims and Continental Sprinter Gatorskin tires. Weight came in at 20.1 lbs. And with the obligatory white garage door in the background.
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03-06-22, 03:26 PM
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Its upgraded to a schwinn sports tourer sans camp dropouts. Looks good,
03-08-22, 08:29 AM
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Here's my recent neo-retro rebuild, using mostly latter 90s shimano parts, 9 spd, newer tubulars
just had the first ride on her this week, and was super impressed.
grabbed the frameset for $200, saved her from being discarded for sure
Not sure how interested others will be about the build, so I will keep it short, w/pics
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09-17-22, 12:18 AM
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Not as nice condition as some folks on here have under their butts, but this is my old trusty-rusty-steed still rolling along.
1980 Sekine, I believe its a fairly rare version of an RM-40 from what I learned from forum member T-Mar back when I first got it in 2006.
Most of the original parts I still have, but they were all cheap and heavy chromed-steel Shimano parts and I've been slowly upgrading it with period-correct alloy Suntour Cyclone components, the last hold outs being the cranks, but I've got a set that I'm working on fixing up to put on it.
Most recently got a NOS Suntour cable guide for down by the BB which got the last Shimano part off and completed the set.
Fighting the rust progression on the frame has been a losing battle, it's been becoming more and more a candidate for repainting. I had put it in storage for a few years while I recovered from a bad shoulder injury and although it was not directly in the weather the storage was not climate controlled and was home to many local rodents whom did not care to be careful of the paint. The mess they left really took its toll on the finish.
The rims are fairly modern alloy 27" and I recently put new Tektro brake levers on it - the only thing I've never really enjoyed on vintage bikes is the big brake loops out the top and the small gripping surface on the hoods. They always get caught on things and other bikes in a dense rack so those and the pedals with plastic clips are my two modern concessions.
This week I replaced the saddle with a Brooks B17, cleaned up the frame as much as I could without taking off any more paint, gave it a thorough once-over with polishing compound and then coated the whole thing in several coats of Future Wax which brought back some of the colour and hopefully protects the rust and stickers for a while longer.
Fork and headset is from a 1979 Raleigh Grand Prix of the same size. I have repaired the original one that belongs to this bike (had a stuck stem, removal of it inadvertently also removed all of the paint) and I'm currently repainting it. Once that is done, I'll be swapping the forks and installing a new headset
Comparing this frame to the Grand Prix, I have to say that Sekine Canada had some top-notch craftspeople working there compared to Raleigh Canada at the same time. The lugs, while not fancy, are meticulously brazed with not a bit of errant brass on the Sekine. The Raleigh on the other hand has some hideously careless brazing work in many places despite being a more expensive bicycle.
The frame has eyelets in the back for both a rack and a fender as well (Grand Prix only has fender mounts) but these days I've taken those accessories off - this bike is now for fair-weather fun rides only since I have other bikes now and its a blast to ride without all that extra weight.
The Cyclone RD is hands down my favourite non-indexed derailleur I've ever used, smooth as butter shifting all day long.
(Edit: It occurs to me that the frame may have been made in Japan and the bicycle was merely assembled in Canada, which may explain the quality difference from the Raleigh but I'm going from memory so don't quote me on that)
1980 Sekine, I believe its a fairly rare version of an RM-40 from what I learned from forum member T-Mar back when I first got it in 2006.
Most of the original parts I still have, but they were all cheap and heavy chromed-steel Shimano parts and I've been slowly upgrading it with period-correct alloy Suntour Cyclone components, the last hold outs being the cranks, but I've got a set that I'm working on fixing up to put on it.
Most recently got a NOS Suntour cable guide for down by the BB which got the last Shimano part off and completed the set.
Fighting the rust progression on the frame has been a losing battle, it's been becoming more and more a candidate for repainting. I had put it in storage for a few years while I recovered from a bad shoulder injury and although it was not directly in the weather the storage was not climate controlled and was home to many local rodents whom did not care to be careful of the paint. The mess they left really took its toll on the finish.
The rims are fairly modern alloy 27" and I recently put new Tektro brake levers on it - the only thing I've never really enjoyed on vintage bikes is the big brake loops out the top and the small gripping surface on the hoods. They always get caught on things and other bikes in a dense rack so those and the pedals with plastic clips are my two modern concessions.
This week I replaced the saddle with a Brooks B17, cleaned up the frame as much as I could without taking off any more paint, gave it a thorough once-over with polishing compound and then coated the whole thing in several coats of Future Wax which brought back some of the colour and hopefully protects the rust and stickers for a while longer.
Fork and headset is from a 1979 Raleigh Grand Prix of the same size. I have repaired the original one that belongs to this bike (had a stuck stem, removal of it inadvertently also removed all of the paint) and I'm currently repainting it. Once that is done, I'll be swapping the forks and installing a new headset
Comparing this frame to the Grand Prix, I have to say that Sekine Canada had some top-notch craftspeople working there compared to Raleigh Canada at the same time. The lugs, while not fancy, are meticulously brazed with not a bit of errant brass on the Sekine. The Raleigh on the other hand has some hideously careless brazing work in many places despite being a more expensive bicycle.
The frame has eyelets in the back for both a rack and a fender as well (Grand Prix only has fender mounts) but these days I've taken those accessories off - this bike is now for fair-weather fun rides only since I have other bikes now and its a blast to ride without all that extra weight.
The Cyclone RD is hands down my favourite non-indexed derailleur I've ever used, smooth as butter shifting all day long.
(Edit: It occurs to me that the frame may have been made in Japan and the bicycle was merely assembled in Canada, which may explain the quality difference from the Raleigh but I'm going from memory so don't quote me on that)
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10-26-22, 05:28 PM
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TA triple,Super Record with Rally cage, Chris King headset, mustache bars with barcons, Mavic MA-2 rims,Normandy hubs with grease fittings added and Campy cones, Blackburn front and rear racks, Super Record seatpost, Avocet womens touring seat, Mafac levers with Weinemann sidepulls, old headlight fitted with 12 volt halogen, painted 20 years ago with Ford Grey engine enamal and due for some new paint soon!
TA triple,Super Record with Rally cage, Chris King headset, mustache bars with barcons, Mavic MA-2 rims,Normandy hubs with grease fittings added and Campy cones, Blackburn front and rear racks, Super Record seatpost, Avocet womens touring seat, Mafac levers with Weinemann sidepulls, old headlight fitted with 12 volt halogen, painted 20 years ago with Ford Grey engine enamal and due for some new paint soon!
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11-13-22, 10:15 PM
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This bike started life as a 1987 black Bianchi Brava, rescued from a friend’s garage. I’ve got a workout/events bike, so I thought I’d build it into a casual “urban”. Frame and forks were in great shape, but paint was iffy, so had them PC’d. I kept the original headset, BB, seatpost and brakes. New wheels, stem, bars, 1x11 drivetrain. To move the chainline out, I substituted a “D-3A” spindle in the BB.
Build notes
Headset, brakes, BB, crank: Shimano 1050 (105)
Bars: VO Milan
Levers: Shimano R780
Shifter: Shimano RS700
Cassette: 11-34 11sp
Chainring: Wolf Tooth 44T
Wheels: Shimano RS300 (105)
Brooks saddle and grips
Nitto Big Back Rack
Stem is temporary until I get the bar positioning squared away.
Build notes
Headset, brakes, BB, crank: Shimano 1050 (105)
Bars: VO Milan
Levers: Shimano R780
Shifter: Shimano RS700
Cassette: 11-34 11sp
Chainring: Wolf Tooth 44T
Wheels: Shimano RS300 (105)
Brooks saddle and grips
Nitto Big Back Rack
Stem is temporary until I get the bar positioning squared away.
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11-16-22, 11:55 AM
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I found this 1989 Miyata Tripe Cross on OfferUp a couple months ago.
It took a lot of work, some new spokes, tires, chain, cables and housing, brakes, and saddle. Now it is quickly becoming one of my favorite bikes.
It took a lot of work, some new spokes, tires, chain, cables and housing, brakes, and saddle. Now it is quickly becoming one of my favorite bikes.
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