The New Classic Rigs and Rides Thread 1.1
11-22-22, 07:27 PM
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11-28-22, 10:10 AM
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Is this thread an excuse to share another picture?
Since my last entry in 2/21, The Derosa has been built and ridden a fair amount. See details of the build which was not straight forward, Help me build a 1990 De Rosa Pro - Bike Forums
De Rosa in Riding configuraton on Flickr
The "newest" is the 1971 Bianchi which is still not finished as it needs the wheels double checked for tension and then the tires glued on. 1971 Bianchi build - Bike Forums
71BianchiDone14 on Flickr
The newest is a 1968 Frejus Tour de France that is in poor shape. The price was right because of the extra parts of which are a pair of Campagnolo SL pedals minus a cap. The going price for these pedals on the bay are far more than the price of the acquisition.
So here is a preview of the frame set including the stuck seat post. The Frejus original head set is in great condition, negating the need to spend 3x the price of the acquisition for replacement.
PXL_20221115_180109829 on Flickr
68FrejusHeadBadge on Flickr
Build thread for the Frejus 1968 Frejus Tour De France Project - Bike Forums and discussion on the "What's it worth" thread, 1967 Frejus Torino value - rough shape - Bike Forums.
Since my last entry in 2/21, The Derosa has been built and ridden a fair amount. See details of the build which was not straight forward, Help me build a 1990 De Rosa Pro - Bike Forums
De Rosa in Riding configuraton on FlickrThe "newest" is the 1971 Bianchi which is still not finished as it needs the wheels double checked for tension and then the tires glued on. 1971 Bianchi build - Bike Forums
71BianchiDone14 on FlickrThe newest is a 1968 Frejus Tour de France that is in poor shape. The price was right because of the extra parts of which are a pair of Campagnolo SL pedals minus a cap. The going price for these pedals on the bay are far more than the price of the acquisition.
So here is a preview of the frame set including the stuck seat post. The Frejus original head set is in great condition, negating the need to spend 3x the price of the acquisition for replacement.
PXL_20221115_180109829 on Flickr68FrejusHeadBadge on FlickrBuild thread for the Frejus 1968 Frejus Tour De France Project - Bike Forums and discussion on the "What's it worth" thread, 1967 Frejus Torino value - rough shape - Bike Forums.
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12-13-22, 01:48 PM
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Colnago - Early 1990s
Can someone help me identify the year of manufacture for my recent purchase? I can't find a serial number, but the bike has Columbus Profilo S4 tubing. See photos below.
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12-24-22, 11:37 AM
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Hi folks,
Stage two update on my Prologue project:
First, the latest picture in its RWB theme.
Mechanically, this is what I planned. Next stage will be after I get some miles on it and our weather warms up and dries out. Then, I’ll do some minor rust treatment and a bit of paint touch up. The wheels & HB tape were purchased from our local co-op where I volunteer. The blue housing was left over from a previous project. The blue Soma saddle came from @Shrevvy. The bars, stem, brakes, crankset, shifters, etc. were acquired over the years either as special bargains or from other projects. …and the frameset is from @machinist42.
Time to ride it!
Cheers,
Van
Stage two update on my Prologue project:
First, the latest picture in its RWB theme.
Mechanically, this is what I planned. Next stage will be after I get some miles on it and our weather warms up and dries out. Then, I’ll do some minor rust treatment and a bit of paint touch up. The wheels & HB tape were purchased from our local co-op where I volunteer. The blue housing was left over from a previous project. The blue Soma saddle came from @Shrevvy. The bars, stem, brakes, crankset, shifters, etc. were acquired over the years either as special bargains or from other projects. …and the frameset is from @machinist42.
Time to ride it!
Cheers,
Van
thanks for sharing
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02-22-23, 12:11 PM
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I found this neighborhood cruiser on Craigslist. It's a 1960's (ish) Hercules, but I wasn't able to determine the model...the curved top tube and seat stays seems unusual for Hercules. It's a single speed. Any ideas?
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04-08-23, 05:25 PM
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My newest ride, bought it this afternoon and just got back from a quick ride. 1986 Trek 760, mostly original components, haven't even had a chance to go completely over the bike and compare specs with the Trek catalog.
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08-09-23, 10:17 AM
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'Thin Blue Line' Lightning, by Silent Sports in Toronto
Fresh off FB marketplace, literally haven't even ridden her yet, but quite the looker!
Apparently 'Thin Blue LIne' was the house brand of Silent Sports in Thornhill, Ontario.
853 main tubes
Kinesis 6061 fork
Not sure of rear triangle but has Ritchey dropouts (edit - bike store says generic double butted as 853 was too stiff)
Ultegra groupset
Ritchey bars and seatpost
Selle Italia saddle
Custom paintjob by 'Karl's' of Toronto
Sunrim ME14A rims on Ultegra hubs, DT spokes, 'handbuilt by Wheeltech'
Edited to add: more info from the bike store: probably a custom build, welded in Toronto. Generic rear triangle. Last run of Thin Blue Line was 2000, so probably very late 90s.
Apparently 'Thin Blue LIne' was the house brand of Silent Sports in Thornhill, Ontario.
853 main tubes
Kinesis 6061 fork
Not sure of rear triangle but has Ritchey dropouts (edit - bike store says generic double butted as 853 was too stiff)
Ultegra groupset
Ritchey bars and seatpost
Selle Italia saddle
Custom paintjob by 'Karl's' of Toronto
Sunrim ME14A rims on Ultegra hubs, DT spokes, 'handbuilt by Wheeltech'
Edited to add: more info from the bike store: probably a custom build, welded in Toronto. Generic rear triangle. Last run of Thin Blue Line was 2000, so probably very late 90s.
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08-14-23, 01:49 PM
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Vintage Colnago Master w/ a Modern Twist
presenting my late 80s (early 90s ?) Colnago Master.
Shifting: 11spd - dura ace mechs and cassette, controlled by hybrid bar shifters
Cranks/Pedals: 7700 era (prefer the look), MKS Royal Neuvo
Wheels/Brakes: Campy Vento 28h w/ Phil Wood road hubs & 3.2mm Pillar spokes, EE Brakes
Seat/Seatpost: Cinelli Volare (vintage) Thomson Setback
Stem/Bars: Thomson Stem, Nitto Bar, Avid Ultimate Brake Levers
Shifting: 11spd - dura ace mechs and cassette, controlled by hybrid bar shifters
Cranks/Pedals: 7700 era (prefer the look), MKS Royal Neuvo
Wheels/Brakes: Campy Vento 28h w/ Phil Wood road hubs & 3.2mm Pillar spokes, EE Brakes
Seat/Seatpost: Cinelli Volare (vintage) Thomson Setback
Stem/Bars: Thomson Stem, Nitto Bar, Avid Ultimate Brake Levers
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08-14-23, 05:08 PM
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Our Trek Singletrack 930's. I recently found them each on OfferUp for $100 a piece. Both were complete and needing minimal work. I had to add a seat and new grips to mine and his only needed new grips. Both have been tuned and have new tires. We are ready for many good miles of riding!
Mine is a '96, 18" frame.
His is a '94, 14.5 inch frame. He is 10 years old and will have a few years to grow into the bike.
Mine is a '96, 18" frame.
His is a '94, 14.5 inch frame. He is 10 years old and will have a few years to grow into the bike.
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08-29-23, 02:52 PM
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I see there were two Hercules bicycle companies--British and German. Yours looks to be from the German company and imported by AMF, who themselves made bicycles and also owned Harley for a time (considered the dark times because of their QA/QC).
Happy sleuthing!
Happy sleuthing!
09-10-23, 02:58 PM
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Two bikes off marketplace that I'm thrilled about!! First up, a very nice Miyata 710 that I got a great price on. Just needs a chain, cables, and some new bar tape. The only other thing wrong with it is IT IS DIRTY. Idk what the last owner was doing with it, but from the looks of the bike he was just blindly spraying grease at it. This is the first bike I've ever bought for the sole purpose of flipping - gonna get her all cleaned up and in a new loving home ASAP.
Earlier this week I also picked up this Univega Specialissima in great condition - also for very cheap. Probably not going to flip it. I'll value it more than the market will likely pay. Sad, because it's essentially a Miyata 1000 which would fetch tons more in this condition. She'll get all original components to be supplied from my LBS. Hope my trusty 610 doesn't get jealous.
Earlier this week I also picked up this Univega Specialissima in great condition - also for very cheap. Probably not going to flip it. I'll value it more than the market will likely pay. Sad, because it's essentially a Miyata 1000 which would fetch tons more in this condition. She'll get all original components to be supplied from my LBS. Hope my trusty 610 doesn't get jealous.
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09-10-23, 03:16 PM
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Two bikes off marketplace that I'm thrilled about!! First up, a very nice Miyata 710 that I got a great price on. Just needs a chain, cables, and some new bar tape. The only other thing wrong with it is IT IS DIRTY. Idk what the last owner was doing with it, but from the looks of the bike he was just blindly spraying grease at it. This is the first bike I've ever bought for the sole purpose of flipping - gonna get her all cleaned up and in a new loving home ASAP.
09-27-23, 01:36 PM
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Continuing the recent Miyata theme, I just finished retromodding this '87 312 Competition into a gravel grinder.
I picked it up back in the spring, for a song, in very nice original condition -- I couldn't believe how shiny the Starlight Black paint under the bottom bracket shell still was. Unfortunately, one of the tires was split, and since I didn't like any of the market's 27" tire options, that provided rational to upgrade to 700s, which rapidly became a retro mod. I cold-set the rear to 130mm in my jig, and then built a wheelset for it with DT Swiss RR411 rims on Bitex straight-pull hubs that came out at 1487g -- which is amazing for $316 -- and mounted 33mm tubeless Vittoria Terreno Drys. Replaced the heavy steel cockpit with Easton EA70 drops, and a partial 105 R7000 group -- but I kept the aluminum SR Sakae Signature crankset because I like the close-ratio 52/42 rings, but mainly it looks pretty. Slapped on a Bontrager saddle that I had, that coincidentally looks like it was made for this frame, and Kool-Stop dual-compound pads in the original Z57 calipers.
All tolled -- without the saddle bag, taillight, and bottle cage -- she tips the scale at just 21.1 pounds which isn't bad for 36 year-old steel offroader. More importantly, is a beautiful ride... I might even sell off one of my other gravel bikes now, since this one is definitely a keeper.
I picked it up back in the spring, for a song, in very nice original condition -- I couldn't believe how shiny the Starlight Black paint under the bottom bracket shell still was. Unfortunately, one of the tires was split, and since I didn't like any of the market's 27" tire options, that provided rational to upgrade to 700s, which rapidly became a retro mod. I cold-set the rear to 130mm in my jig, and then built a wheelset for it with DT Swiss RR411 rims on Bitex straight-pull hubs that came out at 1487g -- which is amazing for $316 -- and mounted 33mm tubeless Vittoria Terreno Drys. Replaced the heavy steel cockpit with Easton EA70 drops, and a partial 105 R7000 group -- but I kept the aluminum SR Sakae Signature crankset because I like the close-ratio 52/42 rings, but mainly it looks pretty. Slapped on a Bontrager saddle that I had, that coincidentally looks like it was made for this frame, and Kool-Stop dual-compound pads in the original Z57 calipers.
All tolled -- without the saddle bag, taillight, and bottle cage -- she tips the scale at just 21.1 pounds which isn't bad for 36 year-old steel offroader. More importantly, is a beautiful ride... I might even sell off one of my other gravel bikes now, since this one is definitely a keeper.
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09-27-23, 01:57 PM
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Miyata 312
Continuing the recent Miyata theme, I just finished retromodding this '87 312 Competition into a gravel grinder.
I picked it up back in the spring, for a song, in very nice original condition -- I couldn't believe how shiny the Starlight Black paint under the bottom bracket shell still was. Unfortunately, one of the tires was split, and since I didn't like any of the market's 27" tire options, that provided rational to upgrade to 700s, which rapidly became a retro mod. I cold-set the rear to 130mm in my jig, and then built a wheelset for it with DT Swiss RR411 rims on Bitex straight-pull hubs that came out at 1487g -- which is amazing for $316 -- and mounted 33mm tubeless Vittoria Terreno Drys. Replaced the heavy steel cockpit with Easton EA70 drops, and a partial 105 R7000 group -- but I kept the aluminum SR Sakae Signature crankset because I like the close-ratio 52/42 rings, but mainly it looks pretty. Slapped on a Bontrager saddle that I had, that coincidentally looks like it was made for this frame, and Kool-Stop dual-compound pads in the original Z57 calipers.
All tolled -- without the saddle bag, taillight, and bottle cage -- she tips the scale at just 21.1 pounds which isn't bad for 36 year-old steel offroader. More importantly, is a beautiful ride... I might even sell off one of my other gravel bikes now, since this one is definitely a keeper.
I picked it up back in the spring, for a song, in very nice original condition -- I couldn't believe how shiny the Starlight Black paint under the bottom bracket shell still was. Unfortunately, one of the tires was split, and since I didn't like any of the market's 27" tire options, that provided rational to upgrade to 700s, which rapidly became a retro mod. I cold-set the rear to 130mm in my jig, and then built a wheelset for it with DT Swiss RR411 rims on Bitex straight-pull hubs that came out at 1487g -- which is amazing for $316 -- and mounted 33mm tubeless Vittoria Terreno Drys. Replaced the heavy steel cockpit with Easton EA70 drops, and a partial 105 R7000 group -- but I kept the aluminum SR Sakae Signature crankset because I like the close-ratio 52/42 rings, but mainly it looks pretty. Slapped on a Bontrager saddle that I had, that coincidentally looks like it was made for this frame, and Kool-Stop dual-compound pads in the original Z57 calipers.
All tolled -- without the saddle bag, taillight, and bottle cage -- she tips the scale at just 21.1 pounds which isn't bad for 36 year-old steel offroader. More importantly, is a beautiful ride... I might even sell off one of my other gravel bikes now, since this one is definitely a keeper.
I am curious how you updated the stem to the original steerer.
09-27-23, 04:04 PM
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Spec weight for an '87 312 is 24.8 pounds per Miyata's catalog ( doesn't specify which size that applies to, and that's probably not the "Competition" trim of the 312, although I cannot find what precisely that entails ). I weighed mine at 24.2, with non-original tires ( and probably tubes ).
I'm pretty sure I could get this under 20 pounds, if I was so inclined. I really don't need two chainrings, and I never use the small one anyway, so I might make my own narrow-wide 50t and drop the front derailleur and cabling. There's also about a 1/2 pound that could be lost in the saddle and seat post -- the latter of which is an absolute tank. But for now, I like it the way/weigh it is.
I sent $18 to Profile Design for their threadless converter: https://profile-design.com/products/...ss-converter-1
I'm pretty sure I could get this under 20 pounds, if I was so inclined. I really don't need two chainrings, and I never use the small one anyway, so I might make my own narrow-wide 50t and drop the front derailleur and cabling. There's also about a 1/2 pound that could be lost in the saddle and seat post -- the latter of which is an absolute tank. But for now, I like it the way/weigh it is.
I sent $18 to Profile Design for their threadless converter: https://profile-design.com/products/...ss-converter-1
09-27-23, 04:56 PM
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I’ve done a similar mod with my ‘84 710. Cold-set the dropouts for 1x11 11-40 with 42T chainring. 28c Panaracer GravelKings. Went with flat bars, so more hybrid-ish for me. I’ll attach an image the next time I clean it up.
09-27-23, 05:21 PM
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Yeah, it's goofy that people are dropping multiple thousands of dollars on new gravel bikes, when there are so many classic frames with plenty of tire clearance for most ride/rs languishing unloved. Sure, the paint on this 36 year-old frame isn't perfect, but it's a gravel bike, it's going to get scratched and maybe dinged -- but I don't need to care, because I have mid-3 figures invested. I bombed it around some overgrown singletrack right after taking this picture, and was plowing branches out of my way with my body and the bike. I would think twice about doing that with most new gravel bikes, for at least a couple seasons.
One of my other recent projects is a road-bike conversion to flat-bar gravel/run-around-town bike -- I like it, but it's far too modern to talk about here
One of my other recent projects is a road-bike conversion to flat-bar gravel/run-around-town bike -- I like it, but it's far too modern to talk about here
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09-27-23, 06:04 PM
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Thanks for the link and re the weight, seat posts dont really matter. I have a Gitane TDF with a steel post and a leather saddle on tubulars. Love it!
Cheers and enjoy that Miata.
Cheers and enjoy that Miata.
10-12-23, 07:43 AM
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Hi, I rcently found this bike and want to use it as a commuter bike. Must be from the 70s. I have no idea what brand it is. it says Markenrad on the top tube and royal everywhere else. Must be a kind of german mail order bike. Rides great and has some bags from the same time.
Fenders are stainless steel
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Fenders are stainless steel
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