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What's the deal with this Merckx?

Old 08-24-11, 12:15 PM
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What's the deal with this Merckx?

I found this on ebay but it just seems weird. Could it be an early mx leader?


It has a Corsa Extra decal but the tubing looks to be the same used for the mx leader. I thought it might be fake but the rear dropouts are Merckx. The fork is also weird, it looks like the right kind of fork but without the usual Merckx crown. I thought about bidding on it if it stayed cheap but it already went past my price limit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/370535585475...ht_5460wt_1304
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Old 08-24-11, 12:47 PM
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Those are pretty typical MAX forks. They used a shape profile that doesnt fit a standard fork crown. There were pobably few (if any) other options available for crown and lugs to suit the tubing shape.
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Old 08-24-11, 12:54 PM
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I did some searching and I haven't found another Merckx Mx with that fork. Anyway, it still has the corsa extra decal on it.
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Is that a graphite composite fork? Get that thing out of here!
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Ask the seller for all the stamps on the bottom bracket. That might be helpful.
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Is that a graphite composite fork? Get that thing out of here!
I asked the seller about the fork and he says it is original and steel
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the fork looks like a MAX tubing fork?
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Originally Posted by horribleoldman View Post
the fork looks like a MAX tubing fork?
The frame is obviously MAX; no reason why the fork shouldn't be either. The unusual part is that the fork blades are filleted to an internal crown - the MX Leaders usually have lugged crowns:

(From: https://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com...merckx_10.html)


Likely an early MAX frame predating the production of MAX crowns labeled for Merckx.

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Old 08-24-11, 01:24 PM
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Check out https://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com.../Eddy%20Merckx

It sounds as if prior to the introduction of the actual MX leader model (with slighlty revised tube profiles and lugs to Merckx specification), Merckx was selling a corsa extra model made from standard MAX tubing. THat is what I think this bike was. It often used a fork crown with internal sockets, rather than the external sockets more typically seen on MX leaders. See the early red bike and phil andersons bike in the blog above.
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The MAX tubed Dancelli I sold a while back had a filleted fork crown just like the one in the auction:

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Originally Posted by elguicho View Post
I asked the seller about the fork and he says it is original and steel
Oh, okay, you can stay.

Then again, it's PINK! Get that thing out of here!
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Originally Posted by Mike Mills View Post
Oh, okay, you can stay.

Then again, it's PINK! Get that thing out of here!
Out of here and into your living room. Pink is the new sliced bread.


Wait, I mixed something up there.
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Its an early MX-Leader. Ask the seller if the tubing says "MAX" and not MXL. Merckx changed the fork crown to the lugged style early on after a few of the fillet brazed forks (like the one on the bike for sale) snapped at the crown/blade junction. Even with the possibility of a snapped fork the early MX-Leaders are valuable.
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Dealing with a Ukrainian seller spells win to me. YMMV
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Well I didn't get it. It sold for $405, pretty good price I guess.
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