Another player in the Retro Classic game: Pogliaghi
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Another player in the Retro Classic game: Pogliaghi
Just saw some posts in the CR list about some new "retro" frames shown at the Eurobike trade show by Basso. They are offering some steel frames with oversize tubing and plug-in rear dropouts under the brandname they still have rights to: Pogliaghi.
Said to look good, but no pictures are up yet on their website. They may offer a complete bike built up with Campy Athena (all-aluminum alloy) gruppo.
The only link, so far:
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspo...i-returns.html
Said to look good, but no pictures are up yet on their website. They may offer a complete bike built up with Campy Athena (all-aluminum alloy) gruppo.
The only link, so far:
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspo...i-returns.html
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Look nice. I want....

Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.

Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.
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There were actually 3 Basso brothers - the most famous of which was Marino, winner of the 1972 World Road Race Championships, who joined the other two at the firm. I'm not aware that any of them apprenticed with Pogliaghi.
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Ciocc had a bunch of bikes too, they don't do much for me and I think the prices are rather high. I would personally rather track down a used one in great condition for a grand and a half than buy a new one. But I am pretty cheap....
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What firm actually owns the Ciocc name these days? I know these are no longer made by master P. himself.
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Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
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I have a 1991 Pogliaghi, but I have been been told it was Rossin built.
Doesn't matter much to me one way or another, as it is a great rider.
I've been waiting to find a Campy equipped donor bike to swap components.
I've become quite enamored with 9 and 10 speed Chorus, so that may be the ticket.
Still, it's fun to buzz around the cities with when I get a chance.
Doesn't matter much to me one way or another, as it is a great rider.
I've been waiting to find a Campy equipped donor bike to swap components.
I've become quite enamored with 9 and 10 speed Chorus, so that may be the ticket.
Still, it's fun to buzz around the cities with when I get a chance.

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From the Ciocc website: "In 1991, the CIOCC trade mark and brand became ownership of Stefano Bonati, Cesare Biondi and Biffi Giuseppe, who realised the importance of its origins and how to maintain the traditions, characteristics and attention to detail of the brand as it evolves in to a new era offering production of carbon fibre frames. Today, CIOCC is still a market leader, offering unique bicycles for quality, design and performance."
Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/


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Size A B C D E F
48 cm C-C 50,5 48 75° 8,5 58,5 40,3
50 cm C-C 51,5 50 75° 9,5 58,5 40,5
52 cm C-C 52,5 52 74,3° 11,5 59 40,7
54 cm C-C 54 54 73,8° 13,5 60 40,5
56 cm C-C 56,3 56 73,5° 14,5 60,5 41,3
58 cm C-C 57 58 73,2° 15,5 60,7 41,5
A = top tube length
B = seat tube length
C = seat tube angle
D = head tube length
E = BB to front
F = BB to rear
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They look to be (maybe) 73/73-ish, which is a pretty good place to be in a mid-sized all-purpose frame. ALthough, the HTA looks a bit steeper than the STA (maybe, hard to tell much from those pics.).
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My 1983 Woodrup Giro (24-inch size) is 73 HTA, 73.5 STA. Just checked it with my Wixey!
(If you don't have a Wixey, you gotta get one...).
(Can we say 'Wixey' on this forum, btw...?).
(If you don't have a Wixey, you gotta get one...).

(Can we say 'Wixey' on this forum, btw...?).
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I have an 84 Pogliaghi Pista. I think it's a Rossin era frame although I know it was
bought from Sante's shop in Milan.
Painstaking research and wild conjecture have led to the conclusion that Sante himself
stopped in the shop while this frame was being brazed while on the way to get his
morning espresso.
Marty
bought from Sante's shop in Milan.
Painstaking research and wild conjecture have led to the conclusion that Sante himself
stopped in the shop while this frame was being brazed while on the way to get his
morning espresso.
Marty
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