Another player in the Retro Classic game: Pogliaghi
09-07-11, 09:35 AM
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Another player in the Retro Classic game: Pogliaghi
Just saw some posts in the CR list about some new "retro" frames shown at the Eurobike trade show by Basso. They are offering some steel frames with oversize tubing and plug-in rear dropouts under the brandname they still have rights to: Pogliaghi.
Said to look good, but no pictures are up yet on their website. They may offer a complete bike built up with Campy Athena (all-aluminum alloy) gruppo.
The only link, so far:
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspo...i-returns.html
Said to look good, but no pictures are up yet on their website. They may offer a complete bike built up with Campy Athena (all-aluminum alloy) gruppo.
The only link, so far:
https://italiancyclingjournal.blogspo...i-returns.html
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09-07-11, 12:01 PM
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Look nice. I want....
Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.
Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.
09-07-11, 02:50 PM
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Ciocc had a bunch of bikes too, they don't do much for me and I think the prices are rather high. I would personally rather track down a used one in great condition for a grand and a half than buy a new one. But I am pretty cheap....
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Yep... it was ~`92ish
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What firm actually owns the Ciocc name these days? I know these are no longer made by master P. himself.
09-07-11, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WNG
What firm actually owns the Ciocc name these days? I know these are no longer made by master P. himself.
Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
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I have a 1991 Pogliaghi, but I have been been told it was Rossin built.
Doesn't matter much to me one way or another, as it is a great rider.
I've been waiting to find a Campy equipped donor bike to swap components.
I've become quite enamored with 9 and 10 speed Chorus, so that may be the ticket.
Still, it's fun to buzz around the cities with when I get a chance.
Doesn't matter much to me one way or another, as it is a great rider.
I've been waiting to find a Campy equipped donor bike to swap components.
I've become quite enamored with 9 and 10 speed Chorus, so that may be the ticket.
Still, it's fun to buzz around the cities with when I get a chance.
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Originally Posted by ciocc_cat
From the Ciocc website: "In 1991, the CIOCC trade mark and brand became ownership of Stefano Bonati, Cesare Biondi and Biffi Giuseppe, who realised the importance of its origins and how to maintain the traditions, characteristics and attention to detail of the brand as it evolves in to a new era offering production of carbon fibre frames. Today, CIOCC is still a market leader, offering unique bicycles for quality, design and performance."
Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
Signore Pelizzoli still builds steel frames bearing his name: https://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
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Originally Posted by gomango
...and they are beauties.
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Originally Posted by Zumkopf
Slightly OT, but aren't those awfully relaxed frame angles? That looks even more laid back than a Woodrup Giro.
Size A B C D E F
48 cm C-C 50,5 48 75° 8,5 58,5 40,3
50 cm C-C 51,5 50 75° 9,5 58,5 40,5
52 cm C-C 52,5 52 74,3° 11,5 59 40,7
54 cm C-C 54 54 73,8° 13,5 60 40,5
56 cm C-C 56,3 56 73,5° 14,5 60,5 41,3
58 cm C-C 57 58 73,2° 15,5 60,7 41,5
A = top tube length
B = seat tube length
C = seat tube angle
D = head tube length
E = BB to front
F = BB to rear
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Originally Posted by Zumkopf
Slightly OT, but aren't those awfully relaxed frame angles? That looks even more laid back than a Woodrup Giro.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Didn't Basso apprentice at Pogliachi? I remember seeing Pogs listed in Basso catalogs a while back.
Originally Posted by bigbossman
I have the "Classico" one in black, pictured in the upper right. It's a very nice bike.
(This is a reference to a run-in BBM had with a local garage sale guy. The guy was a real piece o' work and said that John's Basso-built Pog was a "cheap Chinese piece of cr*p - I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole." You should have been there - words cannot adequately convey just how bizarre the whole interaction was.)
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My 1983 Woodrup Giro (24-inch size) is 73 HTA, 73.5 STA. Just checked it with my Wixey!
(If you don't have a Wixey, you gotta get one...).
(Can we say 'Wixey' on this forum, btw...?).
(If you don't have a Wixey, you gotta get one...).
(Can we say 'Wixey' on this forum, btw...?).
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09-07-11, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Picchio is correct about the 3 Bassos. I don't know if any of them apprenticed with Sante Pogliaghi, but they did own the name, at least for a while. (They stiall might, but I have no idea one way or the other about that.))
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09-07-11, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WNG
What firm actually owns the Ciocc name these days? I know these are no longer made by master P. himself.
https://italiaanseracefietsen.wordpre...lection-ciocc/
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I have an 84 Pogliaghi Pista. I think it's a Rossin era frame although I know it was
bought from Sante's shop in Milan.
Painstaking research and wild conjecture have led to the conclusion that Sante himself
stopped in the shop while this frame was being brazed while on the way to get his
morning espresso.
Marty
bought from Sante's shop in Milan.
Painstaking research and wild conjecture have led to the conclusion that Sante himself
stopped in the shop while this frame was being brazed while on the way to get his
morning espresso.
Marty
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