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Old 06-06-17, 06:09 AM
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Looking for a little advice. I'm a big fan of Centurions already, but I'm normally more into their touring style bikes... That being said I've been offered this '85 Ironman for $250 by the original owner, and it's looking very tempting! It appears to be my size, almost all original, and well cared for! Seller says it's Shimano 600 all the way around, the tires were replaced with Continentals just last summer.

Anyone have any input on the '85 model compared to the other Ironman models? And how does $250 sound for a price? He originally offered it for $300 but I couldn't swing it at the time. I'm thinking I might should scoop it up! It would be kinda cool to have a Centurion race bike to pair with my touring model.



Very nice first year Ironman indeed. The 85 is the closest you'll get to having a touring model in an Ironman as the geometry is the most relaxed. Also the year that accepts the largest tire @rccardr.
Do you plan on keeping it original? Because if you go modern you need to be aware that the down tube shifter bosses will need a bit of alteration. Btw rccardr knows about that as well.
I hope you get it, it's very nice and the year that I'm still searching for. Good luck.
Those goldilocks wheels, saddle, tape, and bar end plugs are my favorites. Btw it has friction shifting.

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That 85 looks very nice. Friction shifting only, which is no big deal.
If you need indexing DT's, STI's or bar ends, downtube mounts will require some modification as mentioned.
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The 84 turbo and 85 ironman have the lighter Tange 1 tubing and fairly relaxed geometries, which makes them somewhat unique as relaxed frames are often built with heavier tubing for touring. I love my 84 TA (same geometry, #2 tubing) but am on the hunt for a turbo or 85 with Tange 1.


Cable stops can be modified to match the Shimano specific shifter bosses. This is often easier than modifying the frame (and less risky for damage).


I'd get it if you can, the build quality is very nice as well.
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Looks like a good deal given how clean it is and new tires. I paid $200 for mine a couple of years ago and was happy to do so. It had plenty of potential but not as nice as the one you're looking at.

In 1985 there were no Expert or Master designations. It's also the only year it was offered in this ruby red with silver accents. AFAIK, the frame and fork are consistent throughout the years.

And the obligatory pic of the finished project. Albeit for a sum far north of the original $200
Dang Plonz, I could stare at that pic all day. I just had to repost. Did you ever get that tick out? Rccardr had a nice one too.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Dang Plonz, I could stare at that pic all day. I just had to repost. Did you ever get that tick out? Rccardr had a nice one too.
Thanks TP&J. The tick has been long gone but I can't for the life of me recall what it was!

BTW, were you in the Houston area last week? This beauty has to belong to someone here.

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Thanks for all the input guys, and beautiful bikes! I just heard back from the seller that it is indeed my size at 58cm, and I will probably be meeting up with him on Saturday to buy it!

I'm totally fine with friction shifting, and most times I even prefer it as it makes mixing and matching drivetrain parts easier. I'll probably leave this one mostly original though. I like the fact that it's an unmolested 1 owner bike.

After hearing about the relaxed geometry, and wider tire clearances on the '85 model I'm even more excited about it! Sounds like the perfect Ironman for me being that my current favorite bike is a relaxed Centurion touring model.

I'm thinking it will be perfect for when I just want to go out and get some speed. No racks, bags, fenders, etc... Just wind in my hair!
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Awesome score Austin , I love that ruby red/sliver . I'm thinking it will be perfect too . n+1
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Having put a 28c Continental in my Trek 730, I figured a 28c in my new 86 Ironman Expert would be easy. Not so easy. I'll have to redish, and even then, it's mere millimeters away from the chainstay bridge, the brake bridge, and the seat tube. It's gonna be one fun ride. Wheel is a Velocity A23 on Sora hub.
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Hey Kenny! Its John -- I think i sold you this frame

Looks good!

I thought it was an 87' but I guess i was mistaken..
Hey John,

I just saw this, I haven't been on in a while. Anyway I'm thinking of selling the bike as I recently lost my job. Any chance you would like first dibs on it? I'll let it go for $500 as pictured if you want it. I hope all is well.

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1989 Centurion Ironman Expert, smoke blue/white frame. Just got this last week. Mostly stock -- has the complete original Suntour GPX group, Araya CTL-370 rims, stem and handlebar, seat post, BB, crank, etc. Paint is good, some chips and scuffs.

Non-stock bits:
  • 700x23 Vittoria Zaffiro tires, rather than original 700x18 Panaracers
  • Terry brand Lycra covered padded saddle
  • New bar tape with Bontrager reflector end caps
  • Wellgo LU-C33 platform pedals
  • A couple of cheap plastic bottle cages, one of which broke so I replaced it with an aluminum cage I had on another bike.
  • I added a Cygolite Hotshot SL-50 taillight.

Before adjusting handlebar angle and lowering stem:


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I couldn't deal with the slammed stem and bar angle, so I raised the stem to the maximum safe height line and tilted the bar back a bit to make riding the hoods more comfortable. I have long fingers so I can still reach the brakes from the drops with one finger on each lever. It's tolerable but not comfortable. I rode it five consecutive days last week, each 10-30 miles, stopping every 5-10 miles to stretch. I'll give it some time to get accustomed to it. I need to improve my back and neck strength and flexibility.

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Nice Ironman. I have one too. Although mine had ultra low miles when I bought as a frame and in most excellent condition, yours looks better. Great acquisition.
Coincidentally I was just gonna post a story about my 89, and your storys better too.
What camera did you use to take such good shots?
Note to self: Must take some outside pics.

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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Nice Ironman. I have one too. Although mine had ultra low miles when I bought as a frame and in most excellent condition, yours looks better. Great acquisition.
Coincidentally I was just gonna post a story about my 89, and your storys better too.
What camera did you use to take such good shots?
Note to self: Must take some outside pics.
Yeah, I'd been perusing ads for a good used drop bar bike in the $200-$300 range over the past year. I didn't want to spend too much because I'm not sure I can still ride a drop bar bike -- and it's coming slowly and uncomfortably. The familiar Treks and others go pretty quick. The Centurions are lesser known. I Googled around and discovered the Centurion Ironman bikes are sleepers and excellent values.

When the seller dropped the price on this one I bicycled over (riding the Univega I bought from him last year), thinking it would keep me from committing. Didn't work. I liked the Centurion. The seller gave me and my two bikes a ride home in his van. Can't beat that!

Those photos were taken with my Nikon V1 and 10-30 kit zoom. Great little snapshot camera and often goes with me in my AGU handlebar bag on my Univega. Tough camera too. I know of a photojournalist who relied on a pair of Nikon V1's to photograph the early days of the Syrian civil war, because he wanted to be as discreet as possible while still getting good results. At the time he said the Fuji X100 was too slow for PJ work.

Nikon and Sony both introduced "one-inch" sensor cameras the same year, 2012: Nikon, with the V1 and J1, using the 10mp Aptiva sensor and interchangeable lenses; Sony, with the RX100 P&S style with non-interchangeable zoom and their own 20mp sensor. I'm more of a candid people snapper so I went with the quicker Nikon V1, which also has an eye level finder. But the Sony RX100 and updates are better overall for most folks.

The one-inch sensors (CX, in Nikon parlance) are significantly better than teensy sensor P&S cameras and most smart phones. Better high ISO performance, better overall resolution. Not quite on par with the Micro 4:3 and APS, but outstanding for the P&S size market. Unfortunately Nikon hasn't really developed the 1 Series lineup and still lacks a couple of lenses I'd like, especially a fast midrange zoom. The 10-30 Nikkor is a slowpoke variable aperture f/3.5-5.6, not ideal for my ambient light candid snaps.

Normally I'll use a Fuji X-A1 for really sharp detailed pix, but the Fuji kit zoom can't do macro like the Nikon, and it was getting late. I didn't want to drag out the tripod and adapter for my macro lens, so I just grabbed the Nikon, which has good vibration reduction for my shaky hands in dim lighting.

And now I'm off to ride the Centurion again. I took Monday off to relax and stretch the back and neck. Gonna tackle it again and see how it goes.
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I have a few questions if someone can volunteer to answer.

I have an 89' Master. It's sweet. I want it to be a full-time relationship, and I want to make a few changes to make this long-term, and I can achieve some goals and have fun doing it.

I am continuing to learn and be my own mechanic, and I have gotten comfortable making basic fixes.

I would like to remove the 7 speed cassette and put, at least, an 8 speed on. I want to do this for a number of reasons, but I also want a reason to get some more tools and try doing it.

So, will an 8 speed fit? I have the stock Shimano 600 6400 Tri-Color group. Does this require the stays to be widened? That doesn't seem like something I would like to try unless someone tells me this is a relatively simple and safe procedure.

Also, this may be a dumb question. The 6400 rear derailleur only shifts 7 gears, correct? I guess I would need a new derailleur. Is the front derailleur ok? I imagine friction shifting will work with more gears to a point, but what about the index capability? I like downtube shifting.

Last question- I would also like to replace the crank arms and possibly the bottom bracket. I am trying to shed some weight and try a different ratio. I have heard this is a major source of weight. Is it worth spending the money on new crank arms and a bottom bracket if that is my goal? This is also something I want to experiment with and attempt to do myself.

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Originally Posted by MookieBlaylock View Post
I have a few questions if someone can volunteer to answer.

I have an 89' Master. It's sweet. I want it to be a full-time relationship, and I want to make a few changes to make this long-term, and I can achieve some goals and have fun doing it.

I am continuing to learn and be my own mechanic, and I have gotten comfortable making basic fixes.

I would like to remove the 7 speed cassette and put, at least, an 8 speed on. I want to do this for a number of reasons, but I also want a reason to get some more tools and try doing it.

So, will an 8 speed fit? I have the stock Shimano 600 6400 Tri-Color group. Does this require the stays to be widened? That doesn't seem like something I would like to try unless someone tells me this is a relatively simple and safe procedure.

Also, this may be a dumb question. The 6400 rear derailleur only shifts 7 gears, correct? I guess I would need a new derailleur. Is the front derailleur ok? I imagine friction shifting will work with more gears to a point, but what about the index capability? I like downtube shifting.

Last question- I would also like to replace the crank arms and possibly the bottom bracket. I am trying to shed some weight and try a different ratio. I have heard this is a major source of weight. Is it worth spending the money on new crank arms and a bottom bracket if that is my goal? This is also something I want to experiment with and attempt to do myself.

Thanks so much for your help. This is a great resource.

First nice Ironman and welcome.
Your cassette is a uniglide aka UG. Youre not gonna find a UG in an 8 speed. You can find one in a hyper glide aka HG. but it wont fit your freehub without some alterations.The reason I know is check out page 47 starting with post 1166 and continuing for at least 10 post on this thread.
To use 8 speed index you will need 8 speed shifters or you can use your same 7 speed in friction mode.

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First nice ironman and welcome.
Your cassette is a uniglide aka UG. youre not gonna find a UG in an 8 speed. you can find one in a hyper glide aka HG. but it wont fit your freehub without some alterations. the reason I know is check out page 47 starting with post 1166 and continuing for at least 10 post on this thread.
Thanks. Yeah, hyperglide vs uniglide is something I have avoided diving into. Let's hope for the best.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
First nice ironman and welcome.
Your cassette is a uniglide aka UG. youre not gonna find a UG in an 8 speed. you can find one in a hyper glide aka HG. but it wont fit your freehub without some alterations. the reason I know is check out page 47 starting with post 1166 and continuing for at least 10 post on this thread.
I guess you had the same problem. What did you end up deciding?
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I guess you had the same problem. What did you end up deciding?
I ended up just keeping it 7 speed with no regrets. However I do have a 89 ironman with 8 speed tricolor sti. I found a donor bike for 125 bucks and swapped out the group including wheels.
If your determined to go 8 speed you might think about doing the same.
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I ended up just keeping it 7 speed with no regrets. However I do have a 89 ironman with 8 speed tricolor sti. I found a donor bike for 125 bucks and swapped out the group including wheels.
If your determined to go 8 speed you might think about doing the same.
I'm thinking the same thing. I just wanted a shiny new part. My legs could use the work.

The tricolor sti is the 6401 group, right? That came out after Ironmans?

What if I got a 6401 rear derailleur and the accompanying wheel? I guess my front derailleur (6400) using index shifting wouldn't shift to all 8 gears, right? I wonder if it is friciton if it could.

I'm trying my hardest to make this bike somewhat-modern, but the amount of money put into it and parts switched out, little seems to be left over from the original Ironman - which is not the end of the world, but that's what makes Ironmans cool.
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I'm thinking the same thing. I just wanted a shiny new part. My legs could use the work.

The tricolor sti is the 6401 group, right? That came out after Ironmans?

What if I got a 6401 rear derailleur and the accompanying wheel? I guess my front derailleur (6400) using index shifting wouldn't shift to all 8 gears, right? I wonder if it is friciton if it could.

I'm trying my hardest to make this bike somewhat-modern, but the amount of money put into it and parts switched out, little seems to be left over from the original Ironman - which is not the end of the world, but that's what makes Ironmans cool.
I'm pretty sure your current rear derailleur will shift the 8,9,10 speed in friction mode. So using a dremel tool to widen out a spline on your freehub may be your most cost effective route 8 speed. Beyond that you may have to redish,etc. There are few videos on youtube showing how to do it. I prefer the one by RJ the bike guy. His simple but effective way of communicating is strangely calming.

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I'm pretty sure your current rear derailleur will shift the 8,9,10 speed in friction mode. So using a dremel tool to widen out a spline on your freehub may be your most cost effective route 8 speed. Beyond that you may have to redish,etc. There are few videos on youtube showing how to do it. I prefer the one by RJ the bike guy. His simple but effective way of communicating is strangely calming.
He is good.

That's funny you said that about him. My wife said the same thing about him last night. She said he was my version of her cooking Youtube videos she watches.
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Well I just got home with the beautiful '85 that I had previously posted about! I've only had time for a quick spin around the block, and I haven't made any adjustments to it at all, but it feels very nice


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...There are few videos on youtube showing how to do it. I prefer the one by RJ the bike guy. His simple but effective way of communicating is strangely calming.
Yup. I like the way he fixes everything with an adjustable wrench, pliers and a wooden mallet.

Semi-seriously, though, RJ is one of the more accessible DIY bike repair mentors on YouTube. He makes everything seem like "Yeah, I can do this."
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Well I just got home with the beautiful '85 that I had previously posted about! I've only had time for a quick spin around the block, and I haven't made any adjustments to it at all, but it feels very nice

that looks cherry! ncie one!
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Well I just got home with the beautiful '85 that I had previously posted about! I've only had time for a quick spin around the block, and I haven't made any adjustments to it at all, but it feels very nice


It looks like everything is original including saddle, bar tape, and brake hoods!! Sweet!! Very nice.
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that looks cherry! ncie one!
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It looks like everything is original including saddle, bar tape, and brake hoods!! Sweet!! Very nice.
Thank you! It really is in awesome shape. It looks great, and I haven't even cleaned it yet! It's actually pretty dirty lol. It was definitely taken care of though. I bought it from it's original owner who had kept up with it, and garage stored it it's entire life. I do believe it's totally original minus the Continental tires that were just put on last summer.
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