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Old 10-11-18, 08:38 PM
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Ok Tex..

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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Master.
Nah, Expert. It's an '87 MV. I'll double check the serial...
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Ok Tex..

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None.
But now I'm starting to doubt myself.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
None.
But now I'm starting to doubt myself.
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Originally Posted by fleslider
N7B6887, 87 MVice
N6M9171 87 Master
N8M6817 89 Expert
Doh! Well 2 out of 3 ain't uh ...bad?
Ok, this is gonna get maybe too geeky. But I know your '87 master is teal and white because you've posted it before. But it's also the transitional year from no title to expert/master that's why it has the 6 for '86. So I see another pattern.
Look at the Chain stays of your '87 teal white master, Do they have indentions? Now notice that all the lugs are different contrasted to the '87 Miami Vice. In other words all the lugs, the seat binder on the '87 Master are different from your '87 Expert however, the chain stays match. Is that what you see? If yes, this is what I think. I see that other than the '87 transitional year all the serial numbers for the '88 and '89 have an S or P in them. Meanwhile all other a,b,c,etc are experts. Which gives credence that they were specifically intended to be different and not random as "Some" have suggested.
Ultimately it's of little consequence and I'm only on page 20 of the centurion serial database. But i think I'll have time to go through the rest today to confirm.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Any of yoose guys ever rode an Ishiwata 22 frame? There is an overpriced Miele bike languishing on the Va Beach CL. I might make a low offer just to see how Ishiwata 22 frames ride.
Not yet.
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T-Mar, save this man!

Originally Posted by texaspandj
Doh!
Ok, this is gonna get maybe too geeky. But I know your '87 master is teal and white because you've posted it before. But it's also the transitional year from no title to expert/master that's why it has the 6 for '86. So I see another pattern.
Look at the Chain stays of your '87 teal white master, Do they have indentions? Now notice that all the lugs are different contrasted to the '87 Miami Vice. In other words all the lugs, the seat binder on the '87 Master are different from your '87 Expert however, the chain stays match. Is that what you see? If yes, this is what I think. I see that other than the '87 transitional year all the serial numbers for the '88 and '89 have an S or P in them. Meanwhile all other a,b,c,etc are experts. Which gives credence that they were specifically intended to be different and not random as "Some" have suggested.
Ultimately it's of little consequence and I'm only on page 20 of the centurion serial database. But i think I'll have time to go through the rest today to confirm.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
T-Mar, save this man!
I think I'm beyond help.
I'm now on page 45 and have to stop there. I'm only looking at Ironman serial numbers. But I've noticed of all the Experts not one uses the P or S in its serial number however only a couple of the Masters in the latter '89 use a different letter than the usual P or S.
On another note, in the beginning of the Centurion serial database there was a lot of traffic besides just posting serial numbers. And RT was There!
BTW @RobbieTunes why in the world would you get rid of That Beautiful Centurion Cenelli? Why, Why, Why!???

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I'll probably be building my Miami Vice back up today. But instead of the original shimano 105 components it will have the 600 tri color components original to my '88 yellow fade master Ironman. But I'm Keeping the original 105 headset and original bottom bracket on the Miami Vice. So to sum up it'll be the "Expert" frame with Master components.
Because of the components weight difference including wheels I can count on saving a whopping 1 lb.
A lot of trouble for a bike I'll probably be riding less of, in fact my goal is to finish out the rest of 2018 riding my '86 Classic Ironman. But I'll probably only be riding weekends due to less daylight weekdays. Instead I'll concentrate on running 3 or 4 times a week.
Winter sucks for riding for me. But not because it gets real cold here but because currently I can only ride after my wife gets home and by then it gets dark very quickly. In another year my daughter will be in school and I'll be free to train all day Yay me!
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A pound ? For real ? By the way Tony how is the knee doing ?
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I think I'm beyond help.
Tell me about it.......

On another note, in the beginning of the Centurion serial database there was a lot of traffic besides just posting serial numbers. And RT was There!
BTW @RobbieTunes why in the world would you get rid of That Beautiful Centurion Cenelli? Why, Why, Why!???
Because the buyer won the Junior Nationals on the same model. Were I him, I'd want it, too. He had more invested in it, as a memory, and it made him very happy to have one again. When I die, a bike is a bike, but I was able to change one person's world, for a brief moment in time, so that is a score kept.
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This guy sounds like a hoot . At first I thought I might go get this carcass and salvage parts but then I thought all this thing needs is a tune up and some wheels and stuff . ( Hey RT, I see some nutted calipers ) Anyhow this lolo won't answer my email , anybody know what groupo this has ?
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lg...719139142.html

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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Doh! Well 2 out of 3 ain't uh ...bad?
Ok, this is gonna get maybe too geeky. But I know your '87 master is teal and white because you've posted it before. But it's also the transitional year from no title to expert/master that's why it has the 6 for '86. So I see another pattern.
Look at the Chain stays of your '87 teal white master, Do they have indentions? Now notice that all the lugs are different contrasted to the '87 Miami Vice. In other words all the lugs, the seat binder on the '87 Master are different from your '87 Expert however, the chain stays match. Is that what you see? If yes, this is what I think. I see that other than the '87 transitional year all the serial numbers for the '88 and '89 have an S or P in them. Meanwhile all other a,b,c,etc are experts. Which gives credence that they were specifically intended to be different and not random as "Some" have suggested.
Ultimately it's of little consequence and I'm only on page 20 of the centurion serial database. But i think I'll have time to go through the rest today to confirm.

I will have to look when i am back at home, but i will let you know.

heres my 88 Master: N7N7334
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My Purple bike says its a Master. Number is N8B0017 The blue Expert is N9E5786
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She sold it before we could get in there.

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Originally Posted by markwesti
This guy sounds like a hoot . At first I thought I might go get this carcass and salvage parts but then I thought all this thing needs is a tune up and some wheels and stuff . ( Hey RT, I see some nutted calipers ) Anyhow this lolo won't answer my email , anybody know what groupo this has ?
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lg...719139142.html

That looks like a late 70s Elite model. Probably (if original) SR bars/stem, Dia Compe 500G sidepulls/levers, Suntour Cyclone R/D, Suntour something else F/D, SR crank (maybe Apex), MKS pedals
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Well I've completed the conversion from my Stock Miami Vice 105 components to the 600 tricolor 7 speed components. It should be noted that I had already changed the 105 6 Speed downtube shifters to gripshift 7 speed. The tri color components were from an '88 Master. A couple of things I never realized was you need a couple allen wrenches to remove/install the105 derailleurs and brake calipers however, just one for the tricolor. Also the the original chain rings on the tricolor are Not biopace and the big ring is 53 instead of biopace and 52 on the 105 equipped Expert Miami Vice. And lastly the original rims on the Miami Vice are darker than the Araya CTL 370 from the Master.

I prefer the darker Wolbers but I like the weight savings of the Araya. I like the solid feel of the original 105 components but again, ditching it in favor of the weight savings. The 105 components are shiny and I didn't realize I liked that compared to the tricolor 600. Although I have two other Ironman with tricolor components, I'm still anxious to feel the difference (if any) on the Miami Vice now with tricolor components.

I stripped the MV down to the frame and waxed it. I think I removed the cables first, then brakes, stem with handle bars attached, post with saddle attached, wheels, chain, derailleurs then crakset. And I think I did the exact reverse when reassembling.
In what order do you assemble or reassemble?
Pics coming once rain let's up. Been raining all month.
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Tear down

Pedals
Cable tips
Loosen all cable clamps
Pull cables
RD housing
Calipers
Saddle/seat post
Bar/stem
Wheel assemblies
Chain
FD and RD
Crankset
BB
Headset
Tires/tubes
Freewheel/free hub/cassette
Wrap
Brake levers/shifters

Overhaul:
BB
Headset
Hubs
RD
FD/brake levers/calipers

Clean and lube everything else.

Re-Assemble

Adjust

Test

Twesk

Kick
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Here is an old, tall Centurion frame in Northern Va. I will be up there the weekend of the 27th. If anyone is interested, I could possibly pick it up.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...703563166.html
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Project Comp TA . Progressing well but has taken a turn , for the better I think . I received the frame / fork / headset about 2 months ago from BF's own RT (thank's Robbie) . Been snagging little gems off the Bay also had some stuff but nothing was 100% correct except for the Sakae stem , I think . I was starting think I was rushing this build plus this bike was all Shimano 2607 original and almost everything I have on it is 2608 . I have been visiting @fleslider's site for correct visuals and documentation . Check it out . Centurion Comp TA . I was starting to get bummed out about the prices on the Bay , 99.99 for a DT shifter . 129.99 for a set of brake levers . When done this bike will be worth $200. max , If I were to try to sell it . I don't think I will be selling . So anyhow here is the big development , I called David at Swift Cycles , David sold the frame / fork to RT but David still has the grupo . David is in the process of taking some pics and thinking up a price and will get back to me . If this works out it will be cool .

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Originally Posted by fleslider
Heres a interesting one down your way @markwesti

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/...715498761.html.

Looks to be a professional version with the Centurion on the Seat tube. and which looks to be a Prestige sticker on the fork...

Score!

vintage-centurion.com now has a Race Frame Ironman, it was at least in the Australia Ironman and the Oceanside Half Ironman... No SN.. but there are more stories to tell!


And Yes the fork is Tange Prestige!
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