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Old 10-17-18, 04:14 PM
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Awesome fleslider you got it , looking forward to the full write up and pics . I would like to see a pic of the fork crown from the back side .
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Life with a Ironman .. going for a ride... happens all the time!
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True Ironman....

Checking out her fork crown....

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I said fork crown from the back side , not ironman checking out backside . haha.
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Looking good [MENTION=413981]markwesti[/MENTION] , Yeah I think you could've saved getting that craigslist 100 dollar TA from Houston. Oh well the hunt is better than the kill.
[MENTION=365143]fleslider[/MENTION] that is really cool. I was looking at some more pics and video of Mike Pigg riding a '88 and it looks very much like the one you have except for the Centurion on the front forks. Also he competed and trained on a Centurion in '88 and '89.

Did the previous owner compete in those races as a professional? Or did they aquire it and compete in those events after? I don't remember Pigg competing in an Ironman other than the new Zealand and Hawaii in '88, '89.

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Originally Posted by texaspandj

Looking good [MENTION=413981]markwesti[/MENTION] , Yeah I think you could've saved getting that craigslist 100 dollar TA from Houston. Oh well the hunt is better than the kill.
[MENTION=365143]fleslider[/MENTION] that is really cool. I was looking at some more pics and video of Mike Pigg riding a '88 and it looks very much like the one you have except for the Centurion on the front forks. Also he competed and trained on a Centurion in '88 and '89.

Did the previous owner compete in those races as a professional? Or did they aquire it and compete in those events after? I don't remember Pigg competing in an Ironman other than the new Zealand and Hawaii in '88, '89.
1. What differences do you see in the Centurion stickers on the forks?
2. the previous owner, had the bike for about 5 years, and he was told at that time that it had been in a couple Ironman's. the Bike has stickers on it for Australia Ironman , and a Oceanside Half Ironman registration sticker as #225 .

it looks like the Oceanside Ironmans , did not take place til the early 2ks when the halfs started a year or so later. so it must have been a later person that rode it for the Oceanside one. Its still unclear about the original athlete who raced the bike and how the it comes down the line
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In racing pics and video Piggs bike doesn't appear to have the Centurion stickers on the forks but in the training pic it does. I think you have Piggs Ironman bike. He reportedly had his bikes stashed at different airports across the country. The clues are the size. I don't know of any other Centurion sponsored triathletes but Dave Scott of course, Mike Pigg, and Michellie jones. In videos and pics I've seen the Miami Vice, Hard Rock, Yellow Fade, and Carbon Ironman color scheme. Also Mike Pigg in '90 with a Diamond Back Summertime Blues color scheme.
I think you have at the very least one of Mike Piggs training bikes (As in the bike in the pic). But he may have raced and trained on all his bikes. WOW!
Mike was consistently the fastest cyclist in all of triathlons. He basically rewrote the book on how to race a triathlon. Pro competitors gauged their chances of winning on Mikes performance on the bike segment. Before Mike it was just a you pick em between Dave Scott, Mark Allen, Scott Molina, and Scott Tinley. BUT when Mike came on the scene everything changed. He'd put at the very least 1 to 2 minutes on a world class field in a 40k bike portion. I can't stress enough how good Mike really was. His strategy was come out of the water and blast past everyone and if you think you can put in the effort to keep up with him let's see if you can run with him after that effort. I'd venture to say you have the Holy Gail of Ironman bikes... maybe, maybe, maybe only one of Dave Scott's actual bikes being more desirable.
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In racing pics and video Piggs bike doesn't appear to have the Centurion stickers on the forks but in the training pic it does. I think you have Piggs Ironman bike. He reportedly had his bikes stashed at different airports across the country. The clues are the size. I don't know of any other Centurion sponsored triathletes but Dave Scott of course, Mike Pigg, and Michellie jones. In videos and pics I've seen the Miami Vice, Hard Rock, Yellow Fade, and Carbon Ironman color scheme. Also Mike Pigg in '90 with a Diamond Back Summertime Blues color scheme.
I think you have at the very least one of Mike Piggs training bikes (As in the bike in the pic). But he may have raced and trained on all his bikes. WOW!
Mike was consistently the fastest cyclist in all of triathlons. He basically rewrote the book on how to race a triathlon. Pro competitors gauged their chances of winning on Mikes performance on the bike segment. Before Mike it was just a you pick em between Dave Scott, Mark Allen, Scott Molina, and Scott Tinley. BUT when Mike came on the scene everything changed. He'd put at the very least 1 to 2 minutes on a world class field in a 40k bike portion. I can't stress enough how good Mike really was. His strategy was come out of the water and blast past everyone and if you think you can put in the effort to keep up with him let's see if you can run with him after that effort. I'd venture to say you have the Holy Gail of Ironman bikes... maybe, maybe, maybe only one of Dave Scott's actual bikes being more desirable.
That would be cool if it was one of Mike's bikes. was there not a privateer program for factory sponsorship where others could get this frame or no?

So the bike on the photo of the cover is a training bike? because i see the centurion stickers on the fork blades.

It is a 58cm frame, and i was thinking although its a production paint scheme for 88 it was probably used during the 87 season?
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heres the Oceanside registration sticker



Oceanside Half Ironman Registration participant #225
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Originally Posted by fleslider
That would be cool if it was one of Mike's bikes. was there not a privateer program for factory sponsorship where others could get this frame or no?

So the bike on the photo of the cover is a training bike? because i see the centurion stickers on the fork blades.

It is a 58cm frame, and i was thinking although its a production paint scheme for 88 it was probably used during the 87 season?
I don't know about privateer for factory sponsorship. But there was a sales representative or executive who should know and I sent you his name once, I'll try to resend you his name. I only have VHS Video, Triathlete magazine pics and a couple of times watching at triathlons in Texas.
I only know that's a training pic not sure if he raced it too. But I do know he Raced that color scheme for sure.

Whatever, that is so Freaking Cool. I'm excited for you and looking forward to the rebuild. I hope you remove the triathlon participation stickers but none of the Shimano and Centurion sponsorship decals.
[MENTION=108582]RobbieTunes[/MENTION] if fleslider restores it to racing specs he'll have to put some one piece tri bars on it.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I don't know about privateer for factory sponsorship. But there was a sales representative or executive who should know and I sent you his name once, I'll try to resend you his name. I only have VHS Video, Triathlete magazine pics and a couple of times watching at triathlons in Texas.
I only know that's a training pic not sure if he raced it too. But I do know he Raced that color scheme for sure.

Whatever, that is so Freaking Cool. I'm excited for you and looking forward to the rebuild. I hope you remove the triathlon participation stickers but none of the Shimano and Centurion sponsorship decals.
[MENTION=108582]RobbieTunes[/MENTION] if fleslider restores it to racing specs he'll have to put some one piece tri bars on it.
It came with some tri bars, they were scotts that were made by 3TTT. not sure if thats a later thing or more original..
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OK so to satisfy the rumor .. at least for this bike and i guess for other race frames from Centurion. they were not factory made and were in fact made by.... (drumroll please).....

Zunow, a Japanese frame builder.



Zunow stamped BB Shell


Bottom of BB-shell with Zunow and Osaka Japan , with the Zunow Hummingbird with a cut out


Zunow Hummingbird logo on fork crown. and the three marks on the headtube lug
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Originally Posted by fleslider
OK so to satisfy the rumor .. at least for this bike and i guess for other race frames from Centurion. they were not factory made and were in fact made by.... (drumroll please).....

Zunow, a Japanese frame builder.



Zunow stamped BB Shell


Bottom of BB-shell with Zunow and Osaka Japan , with the Zunow Hummingbird with a cut out


Zunow Hummingbird logo on fork crown. and the three marks on the headtube lug
holy crap, you got the best of both worlds. does it also have the pentagon shaped chain stay? (that may have come later) I have heard that Kageyama worked directly with tange, so his tubes could be of different spec than any sticker might indicate.

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holy crap, you got the best of both worlds. does it also have the pentagon shaped chain stay? (that may have come later) I have heard that Kageyama worked directly with tange, so his tubes could be of different spec than any sticker might indicate.
1. No it doesn't have the pentagon chain stay, or the biplane rear brake bridge. so it may have been a later item or they didnt utilize it to keep it looking more like the production Ironmans.

2. that might explain why the frame looks to be Prestige with the oval tube at the bottom bracket but no frame decal, i heard that at sometime when Kageyama started doing his own custom lugs that he was doing his own custom spec tubing, maybe Tange prestige as base then however it was modified?
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Originally Posted by fleslider
It came with some tri bars, they were scotts that were made by 3TTT. not sure if thats a later thing or more original..
Pigg used Scott bars in '87 and '88 but wasn't riding Centurion Ironman until '88 and '89. In '89 he was using aero bars by profile and also custom made ones by profile.

Hilarious that that Ironman bike is a zunow. Reportedly Dave's steel Ironman were built by eisentraut while his Carbon was custom made in Japan. Perhaps it's Dave's Scott's and not Mike Piggs. Other Pro triathletes I can think who at one time or another were using zunow bikes were Richard Wells, Slyianne and Patricia Puntous, Wolfgang Deitreich all top ranked triathletes in the '80s.
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I nearly just soiled myself. It has been a couple of weeks of rarities. Randomly, I have spotted/seen a Yenko Chevelle, a COPO 427 Camaro, a 1959 Chevy Suburban Napco 4x4, a 1967 Pontiac Firebird Factory Dealer 428 conversion car and this bike.

Anyway, this could be the break the IM Nation needed. I think it is time to go to the source. Pigg and Scott are both coaches. Contact them about the bike. Someone might be able to get a phone interview or a sit down at an event.
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I nearly just soiled myself. It has been a couple of weeks of rarities. Randomly, I have spotted/seen a Yenko Chevelle, a COPO 427 Camaro, a 1959 Chevy Suburban Napco 4x4, a 1967 Pontiac Firebird Factory Dealer 428 conversion car and this bike.

Anyway, this could be the break the IM Nation needed. I think it is time to go to the source. Pigg and Scott are both coaches. Contact them about the bike. Someone might be able to get a phone interview or a sit down at an event.
LOL.. thanks man that response made my day! I knew everyone here could appreciate this! I will contact both guys and see if i can get anywhere .

and on that COPO Camaro ...Nice was it a ZL1?
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Originally Posted by fleslider
LOL.. thanks man that response made my day! I knew everyone here could appreciate this! I will contact both guys and see if i can get anywhere .

and on that COPO Camaro ...Nice was it a ZL1?
Yes. First time in person seeing any of them. My first vehicle was a 59 Chevy pickup. The driver of the Suburban said I was the first to correctly identify the year. The coolest sighting was the Firebird. It was sitting in front of me at a stoplight at night, behind a 326 Firebird convertible! I noticed the 428 badge and realized it was special.
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Back to the Zunow IM. It keeps getting more interesting. Look at the Pigg photos I put up on pages 208/9. Clearly that is a different fork. Not all of those bikes are the same either. The bike in the Speedo picture doesn't have a IM TT decal. The tubing sticker on the ST is larger also. There are others out there. We need to find and save them.
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Originally Posted by fleslider
LOL.. thanks man that response made my day! I knew everyone here could appreciate this! I will contact both guys and see if i can get anywhere .

and on that COPO Camaro ...Nice was it a ZL1?
I also had this pass me about 2 months ago. Window webbing and race numbers. Might be special.

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Saw this Centurion IM this evening while out trying to get a ride in the fast fading evening daylight for one more during the work week ride.



No IM logo on the top tube but it does say Dave Scott Expert, rear wheel appears newer that front
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just picked up a 1987 master yellow and white with the shimano 600 group on CL for 25 bucks, only problem was a crack in the rear rim, can't post a picture because i'm new to the forum, not mint but nice enough
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That Dave Scott Expert is most probably a Japanese market model. Looks cool like seypats.
Heres pics I probably posted before. Dave Scott on the MV circa '86. Mike Pigg on the yellow white fade circa '88.
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just picked up a 1987 master yellow and white with the shimano 600 group on CL for 25 bucks, only problem was a crack in the rear rim, can't post a picture because i'm new to the forum, not mint but nice enough
welcome to the sickness Willoughby!
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Originally Posted by seypat
Back to the Zunow IM. It keeps getting more interesting. Look at the Pigg photos I put up on pages 208/9. Clearly that is a different fork. Not all of those bikes are the same either. The bike in the Speedo picture doesn't have a IM TT decal. The tubing sticker on the ST is larger also. There are others out there. We need to find and save them.
yup i agree that 89 color combo does appear to be different than this one. was it a year thing with Zunow or requested changes from Centurion

we all just need to keep an eye out for more of these critters. i know RT will find Dave's Carbon bike. hes just lucky that way
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