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Old 01-10-19, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
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Different RD's move different distances given the same length of cable pull.

I'd check the RD for "catches" due to grit or grease or cable routing, etc. A lot of them catch right at the first cog, you adjust for it, only to pay the price farther up the cassette/freewheel.
^^^That is Some solid knowledge there.
Given that does anyone know if the 7 speed 6400 tri color rear derailleur (oem on the '88 '89 Master IM) has a different pull ratio than the 8 speed 6401 tri color rear derailleur?
I use the 6401 on my '89 but for 7 speed. It is Awesome, so smooth, and precise. I don't even want to take it off to try it out on the Carbon for the 8 speed gripshift. But.. I will when I get me a dura ace 7700 rear derailleur and 7700 braze on front derailleur for my '89 Ironman.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
^^^That is Some solid knowledge there.
Given that does anyone know if the 7 speed 6400 tri color rear derailleur (oem on the '88 '89 Master IM) has a different pull ratio than the 8 speed 6401 tri color rear derailleur?
I use the 6401 on my '89 but for 7 speed. It is Awesome, so smooth, and precise. I don't even want to take it off to try it out on the Carbon for the 8 speed gripshift. But.. I will when I get me a dura ace 7700 rear derailleur and 7700 braze on front derailleur for my '89 Ironman.
all of the Shimano SIS derailleurs have the same pull except for the 7400 Series Dura Ace.
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Well I transferred the 7 speed gripshift I had on my Miami Vice on to the Carbon Ironman. It shifts fine no issues.
Two years ago I used my Miami Vice for a few triathlons and it had the oem DT shifters and I wished I had the gripshift and since I'll be using the Carbon Ironman this season I need the gripshift.
So now I'm reinstalling the OEM 105 group back on the Miami Vice sans the downtube shifters (I gave them away) instead I'll be using Dura-Ace 7 speed DT shifters. Well back to work... uh on the Miami Vice.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Well I transferred the 7 speed gripshift I had on my Miami Vice on to the Carbon Ironman. It shifts fine no issues.
Two years ago I used my Miami Vice for a few triathlons and it had the oem DT shifters and I wished I had the gripshift and since I'll be using the Carbon Ironman this season I need the gripshift.
So now I'm reinstalling the OEM 105 group back on the Miami Vice sans the downtube shifters (I gave them away) instead I'll be using Dura-Ace 7 speed DT shifters. Well back to work... uh on the Miami Vice.
I have a set of 1050 DT shifters from an '88 Expert. Just sitting here.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Well I transferred the 7 speed gripshift I had on my Miami Vice on to the Carbon Ironman. It shifts fine no issues.
Two years ago I used my Miami Vice for a few triathlons and it had the oem DT shifters and I wished I had the gripshift and since I'll be using the Carbon Ironman this season I need the gripshift.
So now I'm reinstalling the OEM 105 group back on the Miami Vice sans the downtube shifters (I gave them away) instead I'll be using Dura-Ace 7 speed DT shifters. Well back to work... uh on the Miami Vice.

Here you go, one shifter for both derailleurs. I'll bet there's math involved.
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I have a set of 1050 DT shifters from an '88 Expert. Just sitting here.
You know I have multiple sets sitting around collecting dust.
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Mine go either to Tex or to the swap meet on Saturday. Maybe I can get a cup of coffee out of them.

Dude, that crankset! you had to laugh putting that in the box! Bars are already mounted.

We need to make a list of the organ recipients from that bike.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Well I transferred the 7 speed gripshift I had on my Miami Vice on to the Carbon Ironman. It shifts fine no issues.
Two years ago I used my Miami Vice for a few triathlons and it had the oem DT shifters and I wished I had the gripshift and since I'll be using the Carbon Ironman this season I need the gripshift.
So now I'm reinstalling the OEM 105 group back on the Miami Vice sans the downtube shifters (I gave them away) instead I'll be using Dura-Ace 7 speed DT shifters. Well back to work... uh on the Miami Vice.
Do you want a set? I owe you a favor anyway. PM me with an address and I'll send you a set. Include the details with exactly what you need.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Mine go either to Tex or to the swap meet on Saturday. Maybe I can get a cup of coffee out of them.

Dude, that crankset! you had to laugh putting that in the box! Bars are already mounted.

We need to make a list of the organ recipients from that bike.
A little salt spray doesn't hurt. How about those derailleurs! Calipers are in pretty good shape also. How about the plastic spindle sleeve? That thing looked brand new. I did get a chuckle including the old cables and bar tape I figured you could use those for setup tests.

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They're cleaned up now. I actually considered using that cable housing for a project I can't discuss just yet, but it would just not work. the cables were surprisingly clean and slick, so I'll likely use them on another Centurion....

I laughed at the bar tape. I restored a yellow-white Master for a friend, and he insisted on me finding the same bar tape. That stuff is so bad, even the mice won't chew it.
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They're cleaned up now. I actually considered using that cable housing for a project I can't discuss just yet, but it would just not work. the cables were surprisingly clean and slick, so I'll likely use them on another Centurion....

I laughed at the bar tape. I restored a yellow-white Master for a friend, and he insisted on me finding the same bar tape. That stuff is so bad, even the mice won't chew it.
Look at the wheels that went to Txsailor. They need some cleanup from being at the beach, but look at the brake tracks on the rims. That bike was not ridden a lot.

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Yep, no corrosion on the bars. A couple of nicks. They're already on the Comp TA
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Yep those wheels don't show much wear and will clean up fine.
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Thanks RT and Seypat for the 1050 DT shifters offer. I probably should take you up on the offer in case I ever want to take my Miami Vice completely back to stock including handlebars (which I have). But someone else will probably need them before I do. But thanks guys, however I might be wanting to borrow seypats bottom bracket retapping tool as I have plans to remove my Carbons crankset today and I think I may need it.
I'm not overly familiar with bike forums but I do recognize the generosity from members of the "cool kids club" and I think it's just superb the way we we keep the Irongents freewheels turning. From @markwesti and his offer to mill down a metal part for me to members finding complete Ironman bikes for fellow members and to practically building bikes with donations from all members, just truly amazing. I just can't help but to think how lucky I was to get the Ironman-itis back in 1986.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Thanks RT and Seypat for the 1050 DT shifters offer. I probably should take you up on the offer in case I ever want to take my Miami Vice completely back to stock including handlebars (which I have). But someone else will probably need them before I do. But thanks guys, however I might be wanting to borrow seypats bottom bracket retapping tool as I have plans to remove my Carbons crankset today and I think I may need it.
I'm not overly familiar with bike forums but I do recognize the generosity from members of the "cool kids club" and I think it's just superb the way we we keep the Irongents freewheels turning. From @markwesti and his offer to mill down a metal part for me to members finding complete Ironman bikes for fellow members and to practically building bikes with donations from all members, just truly amazing. I just can't help but to think how lucky I was to get the Ironman-itis back in 1986.
Are you talking about a Crank Arm Thread Chaser like this? If so, PM me an address and it will be sent. For those following, I have a crank arm thread chaser if anyone needs to use it. Here is a PSA announcement for those that don't have much experience pulling cranks. If those threads are a little iffy and you can't get the crank puller to screw in all the way, do not try to pull that crank. You'll strip it. Borrow/get a thread chaser and clean up the threads until you can get the puller in there without forcing it. No project is too urgent to ruin a good crank.

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Yes seypat exactly! I just don't think we'll at 4 AM ...or 4 PM for that matter.
I'll check today and pm you if I need it. Thanks again.
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No project is too urgent to ruin a good crank.
NOW you tell me this?
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NOW you tell me this?
Which one? I have a crank arm thread chaser or that haste makes waste?

As for you parts, I don't have any experience with salt corrosion, so I left them alone. (I'm lazy also) Really, I don't have any experience with salt corrosion, so we have a teaching moment here. If you haven't cleaned up the stem and seatpost, maybe you could post some pics. Then you, or rccardr (a master builder) or anyone else that has experience could explain the cleaning process. That would be greatly be appreciated. No hurry on teaching moments. Whenever you have the time.

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Speaking of teaching moments, I need to order some decals for some bikes. I am going to bring the bikes to SOTR and beg/grovel for help applying them. I went to Velocals, and there are different types. I don't know which kind to order. There might be others on the thread in the same boat. It would be greatly appreciated if an expert like rccardr or yourself could give the rest of us a course in replacement decals.

Thanks in advance.

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Raining $125 IM. Looking to trade my 62 cm Classic for a 58.
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Two of very best models of their respective years.
And man what a bargain. I'll go on record as saying if you get one of these and don't like it, Ironman bikes (italian geometry. Japanese technology, American icon-ism ) just aren't your thing.
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Arrgghh... seeing those deals on Ironmans elsewhere makes me wanna kick myself again for passing up a couple of deals last year. Most recently was an Ironman identical to my '89 Expert for only $140 from the same seller I bought mine from at $200. Even if it needed more work it would have been a great candidate for a hybrid project I'm considering.

Blasphemy, I know, but I'm liking the current citified hybrid version of my '92 Univega Via Carisma so much, now I want to try the same thing on a lighter weight Ironman frame. Put on some Nitto albatross or North Roads bars, flip 'em to be more aero, switch to bar end shifters, and try it as a faux-path racer.

The only problem with the Univega is, at 30 lbs, it really needs the 12-32 cassette and 30/40/50 triple just to slog up some short, steep local hills. At just 5 lbs lighter the Ironman feels much lighter and wouldn't really need the tractor gears.

Then I could finish morphing the Univega into an errand bike,and get rid of my current 40 lb behemoth errand bike (doesn't really fit me anyway, frame reach is too small and the 170mm cranks feel odd). And I'd have a citified Ironman for rides when my neck says no to drop bars.

Now I just need to persuade my body to get ready for a ride today on the Expert with new tires and different saddle. It's just chilly enough to make it unpleasant. Maybe just a short ride around the neighborhood...
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In Cen-Tex it was cold and Windy on my Miami Vice shake down ride of 17 miles after installing the oem 105 components

Those are 7 speed tri color shifters.
​​​​​​​. A 5 mile stretch felt like it took 30 minutes to complete. In spite of that I felt smooth and strong. I need to adjust the front derailleur as it hesitated to shift to the smaller chainring (normally it would shift incredibly smoothly). Along with the DA 7 speed downtube shifters it has a DA 13-26 freewheel. Which is great considering it's my heaviest Ironman (especially when climbing).
@canklecat here's a pic of what I have for you so far. I'm somewhat patiently waiting to get a dura ace front and rear derailleur then you get the the 600 tricolor derailleurs too. I'm trying to turn your expert into a master. You're the only person who's post are longer than mine so I'm trying to keep you going.
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