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Old 01-13-19, 12:42 AM
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In Cen-Tex it was cold and Windy on my Miami Vice shake down ride of 17 miles after installing the oem 105 components... A 5 mile stretch felt like it took 30 minutes to complete. In spite of that I felt smooth and strong.
Yeah, a 16 mile ride Saturday felt like all headwind. Supposedly it was W/NW but felt swirly and from all directions. I felt like Elvis. All Shook Up and weak in the knees.

The chilly wind wasn't too bad, I was dressed so warmly even my gloves were sweaty. But the mountain cedar and allergens are killin' me. And pretty much everybody I know. Fortunately my albuterol inhalers are free from the VA. Look out, Froome, I'm coming for your KOMs.

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Old 01-13-19, 05:16 PM
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I may be joining the club. Going to look at a '89 tomorrow. It's been for sale forever. I know this crankset is not original, can anyone identify it and let me know what the quality is ?? Also any help on what the bar cons might be would be helpful. If anyone is interested in the tri bars and shifters, let me know.
It was obviously turned into a tri-bike which I will change. No decent overall pics - but I'll get some if the frame checks out and I buy it





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Old 01-13-19, 05:50 PM
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64cm seat tube with a 58.5cm top tube
Have you tried freeing up the seized seat post? Mind sharing how much you picked it up for?
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That's a '89 Expert. It looks like in good overall condition. Like you pointed out the crankset is not original. Since the GPX group is suntour perhaps the bar end shifters are too. BTW those gear cables are way too long but since your not keeping the tri bars I guess it doesn't matter. What's the asking price?
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I don't recognize the crankset at all looks cool though . Blk./Blk./Blk.
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The crank has letters on it. I can't make it out, though. Could be Shimano.
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Old 01-13-19, 07:36 PM
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The crank has letters on it. I can't make it out, though. Could be Shimano.
It's Shimano - but I don't recognize it - hope it's not the lead version because I would want to use it
I'm hoping it's a Tiagra or similar

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Old 01-13-19, 08:46 PM
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@sdn40 don't over think it man . Just get it and we will figure it all out later
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Old 01-13-19, 08:50 PM
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@sdn40 don't over think it man . Just get it and we will figure it all out later
Are you sure you want to carry the burden of spending my money ??
If the paint is in good shape I'm taking it. For $100 I can't go wrong. I just don't want that $100 to become $400 at the drop of a hat

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Hehe 400. ? No really for a Cnote that is a crazy bargain . I could blow $500. on that bike and I would just be getting started . buyitbuyit Mr.subliminal says .

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Old 01-13-19, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by butterfingarz View Post
Have you tried freeing up the seized seat post? Mind sharing how much you picked it up for?
The seatpost is stuck in there really good. I'm leaving the state for a while and not taking the bike with me so it will be sitting in the house for a bit. I imagine removal will involve cutting it out. Another plan (I know this is *horrible*), I may end up putting straight bars on it as a around-the-town bike for my nephew. With seat post issue and the rust spot on that top tube I'm not sure anyone else would want to take on the project of properly restoring it completely. As for price I didn't get a great deal on it, more of a impulse/pity buy :-)

edit -- new year's resolution.. remind myself I have too many bikes already!

Originally Posted by sdn40 View Post
I may be joining the club. Going to look at a '89 tomorrow. It's been for sale forever. I know this crankset is not original, can anyone identify it and let me know what the quality is ?? Also any help on what the bar cons might be would be helpful. If anyone is interested in the tri bars and shifters, let me know.
It was obviously turned into a tri-bike which I will change. No decent overall pics - but I'll get some if the frame checks out and I buy it

$100 what a steal :x

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Old 01-13-19, 11:11 PM
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It's all about the paint guys. I am always leery when there aren't clear full view pics. I could always powder coat, but that's when the price starts going up in big chunks.
On a side note, still waiting on a Schwinn 434 that I mentioned before that looked like it was dragged thru the gravel. Hoping to get that for a price that allows a powder coat. For some weird reason I want one
I'll find out about the Ironman tomorrow.

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Old 01-13-19, 11:37 PM
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Hehe 400. ? No really for a Cnote that is a crazy bargain . I could blow $500. on that bike and I would just be getting started . buyitbuyit Mr.subliminal says .
Don't ever talk to me ever again !!

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Old 01-14-19, 07:32 AM
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Don't ever talk to me ever again !!
Get in line, women been telling Mark that for years...spoiler alert it doesn't work.
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Crank looks like a 300 series Exage, but I've never seen one in black. I buy a lot of them just to get the 40t 130bcd Biopace chain ring often found on them.

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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
The crank has letters on it. I can't make it out, though. Could be Shimano.
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It's Shimano - but I don't recognize it - hope it's not the lead version because I would want to use it
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Crank looks like a 300 series Exage, but I've never seen one in black. I buy a lot of them just to get the 40t 130bcd Biopace chain ring often found on them.

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Note to you BLOWHARD MORONS out there: The fork is not bent. Most PEUGEOTS of the '70s forks DID NOT line up with the head tube angle. This is normal. The last pic is from the 1972 Dutch catalog showing this EXACT MODEL in diagram. Keep your comments to yourself......
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Update:
So I get a message from the wife of the seller asking if I'm still going to purchase the bike today. I respond yes as long as the paint and frame are in good condition. Soon after I receive these pics:



I ask her to call me and I explained very truthfully what my plans were for the bike. With the rust and possible cable guide issues I told her I would not be interested as it would cost much more than the bike is worth to make it right. She asked if I would make an offer and I told her I didn't want to offend her husband who had purchased the bike as a project that never happened. She said she was going to talk to her husband and get back to me with a rock bottom price - if he had one. So that's where we are at. Always amazes me how people won't just be up front and take the appropriate pictures to tell the whole story. markwesti send me $500 - I may need it

What is your take on the rust issues ? At this point it would be powder coat ($120) and new decals or nothing

Those downtube shifter cable stops are pretty cool - I've never seen them before. Anyone know anything about them ?

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Update:
So I get a message from the wife of the seller asking if I'm still going to purchase the bike today. I respond yes as long as the paint and frame are in good condition. Soon after I receive these pics:



I ask her to call me and I explained very truthfully what my plans were for the bike. With the rust and possible cable guide issues I told her I would not be interested as it would cost much more than the bike is worth to make it right. She asked if I would make an offer and I told her I didn't want to offend her husband who had purchased the bike as a project that never happened. She said she was going to talk to her husband and get back to me with a rock bottom price - if he had one. So that's where we are at. Always amazes me how people won't just be up front and take the appropriate pictures to tell the whole story. markwesti send me $500 - I may need it

What is your take on the rust issues ? At this point it would be powder coat ($120) and new decals or nothing

Those downtube shifter cable stops are pretty cool - I've never seen them before. Anyone know anything about them ?
Thats the only issues, those two spots? a little rust neutralizer and some touch up it would be fine.
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Yeah, I'd want detailed pix of the top tube before buying any steel bike set up for triathlons and time trials. Lotta sweat and salty electrolyte water is gonna hit that top tube and rust if the owner wasn't meticulous about wipe downs.

The tube integrity is probably fine. But it'll take some work to make it presentable. The price would need to be really low to tempt me, since I'm not sure I'd use the aero bars. Although I might swap the bar end shifters to the drop bar, or maybe even convert to a faux-path racer configuration with flipped albatross or North Roads bars (one of my maybe-someday wishlist projects).

And since I have in mind a faux-path racer, a frame with a little rust might not be too bad if it hasn't affected the integrity. I'd paint it black anyway, maybe with some subtle decals or lining of my own, rather than worry about keeping the Ironman originals.

Despite my nitpicking about Suntour GPX Accush!t indexing, the group is actually really good. Love the brakes, the aero profile and subtle steely blue just looks spiffy. I like the looks of the entire group. But it's really persnickety about chains, freewheels and setup to get reliable index shifting (which I would have known if I'd actually read the Suntour service manual that I downloaded a year or so ago -- it's very specific about how picky the Accushift stuff can be and what components it prefers). I finally got mine dialed in with a SunRace 13-25 freewheel (smoother shifting and quieter than the original Suntour Alpha 13-24), and KMC Z51 chain (Z72 was good too, although the mushroom head rivets seemed to loosen up a bit and get noisy with wear). Loosening the cable/housing loop around the rear derailleur helped. When I replaced the RD cable/housing I added about 1/2" or so over the original length and it seemed to help with index shifting.
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Here is the issue with paint issues. If you ride it it will get scratches and wear marks. So you take this bike and have it repainted. Six months down the road, it will have some blemishes somewhere. This one looks like a good rider. Apply some rust stopping primer on the problem areas. Follow that with some clear protection like fingernail polish. Then, don't worry about until you decide to part with it. Repaint it if you are going to part with it.
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Less then a C note for that bike ? Well OK no more joking around from me , I can get a little irritating you can ask mswesti she just told me to get out of the house and it's raining . @sdn40 maybe this just isn't the right one , I take it it's your size 58 ? Really if you'r not into the tri stuff and the crank set is not doing it for you (not my first choice either) , I could see this bike getting a little expensive . But on the other hand the bike is in your area so no shipping and that top tube rust does not look to bad I would fix it as per [MENTION=365143]fleslider and @saypat method but first carefully sand the spots do the primer and then a few coats of gloss black with a artist brush , I think you would be pleased . Maybe you could learn to love the tri set up , and just get new cables fix , the paint ....???

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Appreciate all the input guys. It was a bit of a downer, even though I had an inkling or two. One of the issues at work here is geography. I've bought mint Trek 1400's for $125. Cannondales for the same. Vintage rust free Treks are currently at $100. I bought a CAAD 9 for my daughter for $200. So buying this for $100 and dealing with the rust issues along with the tri setup just doesn't work for me. Granted this is an Ironman, but I think you get the idea.

One thing we know in Wisconsin is that rust never sleeps, and you can tell from some of the pics there are rust trails under the paint (top tube and head lug) and clues that a scotchbrite pad may have found it's way to the paint. In some of the hotbeds of cycling, some would still consider this a bargain. It's just not in my experience. I'm at the stage in my life where I don't really want to ride a "beater" and part of the allure for me was to tear it down and build it back up. Unfortunately, that would now have to include a powdercoat and decals, which I am still mulling over. I know some think it's good to go with a few touch ups. That's just not me. I'll sleep on it. I don't think it's going anywhere. It's been listed for over a year.

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What happened?!?!? This poor bike.
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What happened?!?!? This poor bike.
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Looks like a traumatic orchiectomy. I'm betting the operation was successful.
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I suspect someone cut the frame because they couldn't cut the lock...
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