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Old 03-11-19, 12:06 PM
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If you let him ride the Ironman, they'll be slapping his....

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tex , RT , you can't make this stuff up . This happened about ten years ago , the Centurion in question was pretty cool . The frame was a low level Centurion I got from my buddy Du The Climb , the forks where chromed Columbus Cro Mo the groupo was Shimano Santee including the hubs . I painted the frame satin white . I loved Billie but he was just too much work to be around . Last time I talked to Billie he told me he had been possessed by a cosmic entity and he wanted to know if I wanted to talk to anyone from another dimension .
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You know, folks, the "C" bike thread is "on" now.
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My '88 carbon is now an 8 speed and the one I'll be racing this year. Generally I like to train on the bike I'll be racing however I don't have any training wheels. And I can't seem to find any at the price I like. So I was thinking while I was on my Miami Vice today that I'll just use one of my other IM and use the '88 strictly for racing. Then I thought again (always scary) that I'll just alternate between my remaing three for training. You know, since theyre set up the same. That made me think some more and I've decided next year I'll race the '86 first race, '87 the second race, the '88 third race, and the'89 the last race. Yep, that's what I'll do. Fortunately I have race wheels for all just no training wheels for my '88 8 speed.
All this got me thinking how Ive got a red training shirt for my '86 Classic a black training shirt for my '88 Carbon, a blue training shirt for '89 Summer Time Blues but no pink training shirt for '87 Miami Vice. Wait a minute I have a yellow training shirt that might work. Yeah!
All that made me remember when I got my Classic I got some black sidis with red trim and a black helmet to match. So why not get black carbon fiber look shoes for my Carbon and blue shoes for my '89 and pink or yellow for my '87? Oh yeah cause it cost money! In the past I've had sidi, lake and shimano shoes. I prefer the sidis. Believe it or not I saw some vintage nos pink and yellow sidis my size, perfect except over 200 from Italy in the bay. So they exist. I don't like the modern shoes with snaps and laces and such. I prefer the two velcro straps for faster transitions.
And finally, I have black and red shades, blue and black shades, all black shades, but no oink and black shades for my Miami Vice but it may be easier to find yellow and black. BTW, I got all those shades brand new from goodwill for 3.99 each. Oh and they are all Ironman sunglasses. When you only have one brand of bike you have more reason to get matching accessories. Well OK.
Later Irongents....lets see C-Cat top that for length.
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...Later Irongents....lets see C-Cat top that for length.
Don't get me started. I have a keyboard and I'm not afraid to use it.

BTW, I took the Ironman for a casual group ride Wednesday night, something I rarely do. I mostly use the Ironman for "workout" rides and take my Univega Via Carisma for casual rides. But the Univega's rear wheel needs work (squeaky spokes, just annoying).

So I took the Ironman. I immediately noticed how much quicker it feels in stop and go city riding. Not just the overall weight but the lighter wheels and tires. It's not that my overall average speed was faster than usual. But I was less tired after 45 miles because it takes less effort to get the Ironman spun up to speed than the heavier Univega with heavier wheels and 700x32 tires.

My only concession to keeping it casual was to wear regular running/walking shoes rather than my Scott clipless shoes. The Look pedals will jab my feet painfully if I try to push too hard, or stand to stomp the pedals on climbs and sprints.

Usually that's enough to keep my competitive nature in check, but not Wednesday night. My friend Ted was the ride leader and he's a natural cyclist/athlete, gifted with a climber's physique -- small, lean, naturally strong with great stamina even when he doesn't work out often. And he rides a hybrid with 8-speed IGH, no front derailleur (he says derailleurs are the devil's tools ), and flipped North Roads bars, and 700x32 or so touring or cyclocross tires, like a modern take on a path racer. The bike probably weighs 30 lbs but I can't convince him to get a road bike. He's only in his 40s and considers himself a cycling enthusiast, not competitive. He doesn't want to jinx the fun with a road bike.

Too bad because he'd crush us on a road bike. Heck, he'd probably own KOMs on many regional climbs. On some climbs Wednesday night I tried to keep up with Ted but couldn't do it. I'd be okay for a few hundred yards but on the longer grades I'd fizzle while he kept churning. These are sprint-climbs, like 1%-5%, pretty much full gas, no strategy, just whoever has the legs and lungs.

I'm gonna blame the lack of my proper clipless road shoes. But the fact is my legs and lungs gave out before I even noticed the Look pedals jabbing my feet through the soft soles.

Now I'm daydreaming again about another Ironman to hybridize for those casual group rides. Put on some albatross or North Roads bars, maybe bar end shifters, platform pedals. But I suppose all I really need is a beater or fixer upper, a stealth hybrid. I don't think I could do that to a pristine Ironman.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Don't get me started. I have a keyboard and I'm not afraid to use it.

BTW, I took the Ironman for a casual group ride Wednesday night, something I rarely do. I mostly use the Ironman for "workout" rides and take my Univega Via Carisma for casual rides. But the Univega's rear wheel needs work (squeaky spokes, just annoying).

So I took the Ironman. I immediately noticed how much quicker it feels in stop and go city riding. Not just the overall weight but the lighter wheels and tires. It's not that my overall average speed was faster than usual. But I was less tired after 45 miles because it takes less effort to get the Ironman spun up to speed than the heavier Univega with heavier wheels and 700x32 tires.

My only concession to keeping it casual was to wear regular running/walking shoes rather than my Scott clipless shoes. The Look pedals will jab my feet painfully if I try to push too hard, or stand to stomp the pedals on climbs and sprints.

Usually that's enough to keep my competitive nature in check, but not Wednesday night. My friend Ted was the ride leader and he's a natural cyclist/athlete, gifted with a climber's physique -- small, lean, naturally strong with great stamina even when he doesn't work out often. And he rides a hybrid with 8-speed IGH, no front derailleur (he says derailleurs are the devil's tools ), and flipped North Roads bars, and 700x32 or so touring or cyclocross tires, like a modern take on a path racer. The bike probably weighs 30 lbs but I can't convince him to get a road bike. He's only in his 40s and considers himself a cycling enthusiast, not competitive. He doesn't want to jinx the fun with a road bike.

Too bad because he'd crush us on a road bike. Heck, he'd probably own KOMs on many regional climbs. On some climbs Wednesday night I tried to keep up with Ted but couldn't do it. I'd be okay for a few hundred yards but on the longer grades I'd fizzle while he kept churning. These are sprint-climbs, like 1%-5%, pretty much full gas, no strategy, just whoever has the legs and lungs.

I'm gonna blame the lack of my proper clipless road shoes. But the fact is my legs and lungs gave out before I even noticed the Look pedals jabbing my feet through the soft soles.

Now I'm daydreaming again about another Ironman to hybridize for those casual group rides. Put on some albatross or North Roads bars, maybe bar end shifters, platform pedals. But I suppose all I really need is a beater or fixer upper, a stealth hybrid. I don't think I could do that to a pristine Ironman.
MKS urban pedals would be the ones to get for the IM hybrid. They are a similar design to the legendary Lyotard Marcel Berthet Model 23 pedal.
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MKS urban pedals would be the ones to get for the IM hybrid. They are a similar design to the legendary Lyotard Marcel Berthet Model 23 pedal.
Yup, I'm thinking about those dual platform/clipless pedals for group rides in the city. My friend Ted uses 'em. With casual shoes, much more practical than my slippery, clunky Look Delta cleats in the city. And Wednesday night's ride including an impromptu shortcut down a muddy alley. I had to get off and walk when my 700x23 slicks bogged down. That would not have been fun in my Scott road shoes with Delta cleats.

But I do like the Look pedals/cleats for uninterrupted workout rides, mostly in rural areas. Some days I can ride 20-30 miles and never need to unclip.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Now I'm daydreaming again about another Ironman to hybridize for those casual group rides.
Put on some albatross or North Roads bars, maybe bar end shifters, platform pedals.
But I suppose all I really need is a beater or fixer upper, a stealth hybrid.

I don't think I could do that to a pristine Ironman.
Sure you can, just Build it right.
Ironman is not picky about its dominance.

A hybridized Ironman is like any other really pretty girl.
With a moustache, that's all.
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Jacket and Jersey

Note the Merckx logo on the collar of the jersey. Per @seypat, there was a connection with wheels.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
You know, folks, the "C" bike thread is "on" now.
Don't be shy, stand and deliver.
I added most but not all my C's , have a few Centurions that are in various states of assembly or dis for the truth
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I added most but not all my C's , have a few Centurions that are in various states of assembly or dis for the truth
I only posted one, I guess I'll post the other three.
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@RobbieTunes I can't PM you. IDK why. Unblock you piopular bastud. Thanks RT for the offers but I'm good.
I got it all sorted out. Check it, I'm going to take all C-Cats off the very Ironman like purple trek and replace with the following. Deore LX rear derailleur. A tricolor front derailleur but missing decal, dura ace 7 speed DT shifters. Staying with the 105 crankset and I'm leaving the American classic seatpost but with a white saddle. Flipping stem, replacing with white cable housing and adding white bar tape. Then I'm gonna put the biggest pie plate cassette the deore LG will shift @jetboy. That should piss off all you bikies. Hehe

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@RobbieTunes I can't PM you. IDK why. Unblock you piopular bastud. Thanks RT for the offers but I'm good.
I got it all sorted out. Check it, I'm going to take all C-Cats off the very Ironman like purple trek and replace with the following. Deore LX rear derailleur. A tricolor front derailleur but missing decal, dura ace 7 speed DT shifters. Staying with the 105 crankset and I'm leaving the American classic seatpost but with a white saddle. Flipping stem, replacing with white cable housing and adding white bar tape. Then I'm gonna put the biggest pie plate cassette the deore LG will shift @jetboy. That should piss off all you bikies. Hehe
Large cassette means a large... prostate.
Good you reminded me though, I have a new job at work (same place, new job) and had no time to work on the carbon/IM. But we just hired someone to help me so hopefully i have a bit of breathing room to try a fix.
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Un-Ungh. You are mistaken.
Large cassette = large hands.
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So what's the biggest 7 speed cassette the shimano deore LX can handle?
I'm thinking of putting a 11-36 or bigger. Bahaha
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Funly I have three projects to contend with.
First the '88 Carbon needs the properly sized front derailleur braze on adapter that I just received installed.
Next I need to reinstall the 7 speed grip shift on to my Miami Vice. I had It on my Carbon but fortunately the Carbon now has 8 speed gripshift and dura ace I robbed from the trek.
And now I need to install the deore LX rear derailleur, 6401 front deraileur, dura ace 7 speed DT shifters,chain, white saddle, white cable housing, white cages, and order some white bar tape. So that's my plan for tomorrow. Later Irongents.
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Un-Ungh. You are mistaken.
Large cassette = large hands.
+1, the large nose is just for aero.
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Un-Ungh. You are mistaken.
Large cassette = large hands.
I have a corn cob ! Um , oh right , OK I get it , ahem ...


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So I had three bikes that needed my attention last evening and here's how it went. I generally tackle the one with most work needed. But I'll go in reverse order here.
The '88 Carbon just needed the correct size front derailleur braze on attachment installed. Eazy peazy...it wasnt. I usually get itvright the first time. I eventually resorted to leaving it justvtight enough stay but movable for adjustment. Then I forgot i tightened it and moved it a tiny bit. So I was worried I bent it. So I compared it to my other 7700 front derailleur and that's when I realized the Carbons front derailleur is actually a 7410, which is good cause that matches the rest of duty ace group. Eventually I started from scratch and got it right.
Next was re-installing 7 speed gripshift on my Miami Vice and that was Easy Peasy.
Then finally the purple trek (which was actually first). I took everything off and installed the deore LX rear derailleur, 600 tricolor front derailleur with missing sticker, white saddle, white cages, and flipped stem then flipped back as it had zero affect/didnt lower. That left the white cable housing. It is very difficult scratch that, it is insanely difficult to run cable housing thru. I'm using ummhum repuposed Miami Vice cable housing. Which I'm struggling with so I left it for the next day. Does cake housing come in different diameters??
If and when I get white cable housing thru I'll still need white bar wrap, chain, and a Yuge, mega cassette because you know...
Later Irongents, it's off for a ride.
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OK, I'll play:

1-I swapped out the Ritchey 1" threadless carbon/alloy fork on my NotYourDaddy's Ironman for a Look version, full carbon. Went OK, bike is a bit lighter, and the much more subtle Look fork goes better with the very subdued scheme on that bike. Also swapped in 3T carbon wheels for the same reason. Bike is now knocking at the basement door of 18 lbs.

2-The Ritchey fork is black carbon/white lettering, as is my Carbon-R, so that swap was attempted. First up, change of headset from 6500 to Ritchey Logic threadless. Lower cup on the Ritchey is a dull aluminum, anodized. Stripped the ano and polished same. Then I couldn't find the crown race, but a spare Tange fit perfect. Installed the headset. -Installed the fork, shimmed up from 1" to 1.125" on the steerer. To matched the polished aluminum lugs, I used a Velo Orange "stack stem" in silver. Looks decent, but is a bit high. Better fit, but the bolt from the stem cap is too short, and I'll have to go find a bolt. -The stem uses a 31.8 bar, so I used a set of Velo Orange shims to continue the use of the Nitto B115 (Olympiade) bar, for now. I like it, it fits, but I may go with a Toseak carbon bar from the land of Mao's kids. The aggregate weight loss will be about .4 lbs, dropping the Carbon-R to about 17.2 - 17.3 with pedals, cage(s), Garmin and taillight. -Finalized it a bit with a return of the Bontrager RXL/TLR wheels. Gives me black-with-white-lettering on the frame, fork, and wheelset. So tidy.

3-I have upcoming Ironman and Prestige "events" inbound. The Ironman may well get the 6800 group in lieu of the Prestige, as the colors tend to match. -I'll figure out the Prestige, and may just reverse conventional blasphemy and run it Campy.

4-Certainly not last, I have a line on some Superbe Pro calipers for the Comp TA, which is inching towards a complete group, but not likely as the hubs are expensive and brake levers even more so. This continues to be an elegant, light, and nimble bike. It basically rides like a steel version of my Teledyne Titan.
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Nice assessment RT, I'll be on the lookout for some superbee for you.
Who's next?
BTW I need a dura ace 7700 rear derailleur in case someone has one. Aesthetics not a priority however function and price are.😉
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I , like a complete idiot I traded my Nishiki for a rusty POS Bianchi . I'm in deep on this thing , so no turning back . Things are looking up sort of on this project , I did find a good match for the Celest paint . I have decided to respray the whole frame rather than a touch up . I'm pretty stoked about the wheel set that I'm gathering parts for , amore .
2 Massing parts for a new wheel set for the track bike .
3 The wheel set for the Bianchi might wind up on the IM or the Comp TA , which ever one doesn't get the Italian wheel set will get the DA treatment .

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