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Old 12-23-11, 06:21 AM
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I don't quite understand the role these play in the stable as they are described as triathlon bikes, but they aren't as aggressive as modern tri bikes, correct?
No, they're not as aggressive as modern tri bikes. They're 23-27 years old. They don't have to be.

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What's the spell they have cast over you?
I'm not aware of any spell.

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I just would like to know more as so many people seem to go crazy over them. Thanks!
They're just cosmic, man.

If I could recall the things I've written here about them, I would. They're just cool.
People that have them, like them. Women swoon, and men no longer fear wearing spandex.
Black Sabbath sang about them. Robert Downey Jr starred as one. Dave Scott is one.
I mean, there are watches, water bottles, helmets. They even named a triathlon after it.

It's like asking "what came first, the chicken or the egg?"
The egg lights a cigarette with a satisfied grin.....

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Thanks, RT. I think I get it. : )
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Ironman bikes don't suck.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Black Sabbath sang about them. (+) Robert Downey Jr starred as one ( - ). Dave Scott is one. (+)
I mean, there are watches, water bottles, helmets. They even named a triathlon after it (+).
I believe Bruce Springsteen wrote a song, "Two Steps Forward and One Step Back..."

In the defense of these beautiful bikes, I must mention that Bobby Downey Jr. was still on his first-strike felony when the decals were applied to these frames...
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I bought my Ironman as a frame on Ebay. Although I normally avoid Purple/Pink colors, this frame caught my attention (and the BIN price was great). The frame is slightly too big, but I will make it work. I'm not completely done, but I like my initial progress. I will likely make more changes. I like the Ironman because it is so different from other bikes in my collection. The ride does feel more rigid, but it might simply be my less padded saddle.






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My 1987 'Miami Vice' with Shimano Sante gruppo.

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This was a gift. I sold it to my cycling buddy! All Shimano 600, Turbo saddle, etc. Thanks for looking!










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bikemanbob, that thing looks great!

also the yeller one above, nice for stock.

I'm building new wheels for my purple haze master and ditching the sti to go back to sexy dt shifting, pics to come soon!
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I guess I haven't posted mine in this thread. I took it out for a short ~30 miles on Saturday.


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This was a gift. I sold it to my cycling buddy! All Shimano 600, Turbo saddle, etc. Thanks for looking!










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Confirmation that the 1987 Master came in yellow and white, besides the green and white. Outstanding, and thanks.
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Really like that yellow/white one.
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I am looking for a Dave Scott for my son. 56cm any color
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I have 2 Miami Vice pink and yellow Iron Man Experts, a 1986 and a 1987. The 1986 is a 6 speed with a 126mm rear width and a Shimano 600EX gruppo. The 1987 is a 7 speed with a 130mm rear. It's equipped with the then new Shimano 105 "economy" gruppo.

I was a fan of Miami Vice back in the 80s and I liked the Don Johnson color themes from that era.

I bought the 87 dirt cheap ($40). It had been used by someone doing triathlons down in SoCal and the seatpost was frozen into the seat tube. It took me about 3 hours to cut it out.

I picked up the 86 in much better condition off of eBay.

The bikes are well made and handle in a way that probably would appeal to a tri-athlete - they go straight ahead no matter what!

Aside from that, I don't care for the lack of a fork crown with the fork blades curved at the top and TIG welded onto the steerer tube which was popular in the late 80s.

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I have ridden my '87 Ironman over 1,000 miles so far this year including one 68 mile ride. What a great bike. I got mine
from local Yellowbike as a gift for volunteering there regularly.
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I have 2 Miami Vice pink and yellow Iron Man Experts, a 1986 and a 1987. The 1986 is a 6 speed with a 126mm rear width and a Shimano 600EX gruppo. The 1987 is a 7 speed with a 130mm rear. It's equipped with the then new Shimano 105 "economy" gruppo.

I was a fan of Miami Vice back in the 80s and I liked the Don Johnson color themes from that era.

I bought the 87 dirt cheap ($40). It had been used by someone doing triathlons down in SoCal and the seatpost was frozen into the seat tube. It took me about 3 hours to cut it out.

I picked up the 86 in much better condition off of eBay.

The bikes are well made and handle in a way that probably would appeal to a tri-athlete - they go straight ahead no matter what!

Aside from that, I don't care for the lack of a fork crown with the fork blades curved at the top and TIG welded onto the steerer tube which was popular in the late 80s.

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Both of yours would be '87's, and someone's done some swapping, is all.
1986 did not have an Expert, or a Master, but a straight Ironman model.
The only pink/yellow models were the 1987 Expert, which came OEM with the "new" 2x6 105 indexed.
It should have a Uniglide 6-sp cassette on a 126mm rear, with Wolber Super Champion rims.

It would appear that both of yours are 1987 models.

On the one with Shimano 600, someone swapped it in place of the 105.

On the one with 7-sp 105, someone swapped it in for the 6-sp 105, as there are several ways to do that.

They ride great, and were the "tri bike" of choice for many a competitor who only had one bike.
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Both of yours would be '87's, and someone's done some swapping, is all.
1986 did not have an Expert, or a Master, but a straight Ironman model.
The only pink/yellow models were the 1987 Expert, which came OEM with the "new" 2x6 105 indexed.
It should have a Uniglide 6-sp cassette on a 126mm rear, with Wolber Super Champion rims.

It would appear that both of yours are 1987 models.

On the one with Shimano 600, someone swapped it in place of the 105.

On the one with 7-sp 105, someone swapped it in for the 6-sp 105, as there are several ways to do that.

They ride great, and were the "tri bike" of choice for many a competitor who only had one bike.
Per the late Sheldon Brown's (RIP) Centurion websiet:

http://sheldonbrown.com/centurion/index.html

"The good news is that Tom Marshall (a.k.a. T-Mar), a Canadian engineer, racer and runner, with the help of Centurion owners from around North America and information from his own archives, figured out the serial number date codes for many Centurions. Here's what Tom has to say on the subject:

Japanese Centurions made between 1980-1990 use a serial number format WXYZZZZ where:
W = a letter, purpose uncertain, but probably indicates a manufacturer or Centurion;
X = a number, indicating the calendar year of manufacture;
Y = a letter, indicating the fortnight of manufacture (A = wk 1 & 2, B = wk 3 & 4, etc)
ZZZZ = four digit number, probably indicating frame number during fortnight of manufacture.

Example: N4E0283 indicates the 283 frame made during the period of weeks 9-10 in 1984."


The serial number on my "1986" pink and yellow Ironman Expert is N6L5766.

Based on this information, it was built near the end of the year in the 46th to 48th week of 1986.

It was all original Shimano 600EX 6 speed with a cassette hub and 6 speed index SIS shifters plus BioPace chainrings.

The serial number on the 1987 is N7K5749 indicating that it was produced between the 42nd and 44th week of 1987.

Shimano introduced the "New" version 105 gruppo in 1987. The bike was all original except for a long Cinelli stem with a Scott tri-bar mounted on it.

Supposedly Shimano didn't release the 7 speed version of the 105 until 1989, but...

Spreading the rear triangle plus changing the shift levers, rear hub and cassette to 7 speed would have been an expensive modification back then.

"Today, some view with shock and horror the pink/purple and pink/yellow two-tone color schemes of 1986-87 but these combinations were the rage at the time. There are often pristine examples of Centurion models with these color schemes (mostly the Ironman Master and Ironman Expert models) appearing on eBay and they often fetch less than similar models with more subdued colors.

Back in the day, these pink and pastel color schemes were attributed to the pervasive image of the TV show "Miami Vice." -- Sheldon Brown

The Ironman Dave Scott model name replaced Comp TA in 1985 and with the name change came indexed shifting with an upgraded Shimano "New" 600EX group. In 1987 the economy Ironman Expert Dave Scott model, with its Shimano 105 groupset, appeared and the "Master" designation was added to the original Ironman Dave Scott to distinguish it from the "Expert." The frames of both models were identical, featuring the same Tange #1 tubing, itself renamed from Champion #1. At about this time, a TIG-welded fork crown replaced the more graceful, semi-sloped investment cast fork crowns of the Comp TA and the earlier Ironman models. My 1988 Expert weighs about 21lbs.

These models were marketed as "triathlon specific" designs, but their geometry is not at all like newer triathlon bikes. These bikes are more like general high-performance "road" bikes. They were reputed to offer a ride that put less strain on the rider's arms, on the assumption that the rider would have tired arms after the two mile swim... -- Sheldon Brown"


I changed out the Cinelli stem and tri-bars to an original Nitto stem and bars plus I had to replace the fluted Sugino seatpost that I had cut out.

The flutes on the Sugino seatpost allowed water to get down into the seat tube and cause both rust and electrolytic corrosion between the post and the tube.

I also replaced the 52-42 BioPace chainrings with 50-38 rings and put on a 13-30T cassette. I installed a Shimano cassette BB to replace the original loose bearing one which was quite corroded.

So, you might be correct that the 1987 was originally a 6 speed but I had the alignment checked on both frames by a local frame builder and they were spot on.

Any way I enjoy the look of horror on the faces of the other classic bike riders when I take it out. Real men don't ride PINK! What about Poulidor and the Mercier teams?

BTW, this is my wet weather beater bike. I haven't gotten around to finishing the overhaul on the 1986 IM. It's in much nicer condition.

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Robbie,

You were right. The 87 was originally a 6 speed. It's been a few years and I forgot about the details. When I picked up the bike for $40 from a local used bike monger, he kept the original 6 speed wheels.

I had a nice set of wheels with Shimano 600 hubs and Mavic MA2 rims. When I had the alignment checked, I had the rear triangle spread to 130mm to use the 7 speed rear hub.

The 1987 105 derailleurs plus the 6 speed SIS levers work fine with the 7 speed cassette.

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Robbie,

You were right. The 87 was originally a 6 speed. It's been a few years and I forgot about the details. When I picked up the bike for $40 from a local used bike monger, he kept the original 6 speed wheels.

I had a nice set of wheels with Shimano 600 hubs and Mavic MA2 rims. When I had the alignment checked, I had the rear triangle spread to 130mm to use the 7 speed rear hub.

The 1987 105 derailleurs plus the 6 speed SIS levers work fine with the 7 speed cassette.

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Glad to be able to help, and welcome to our little group therapy session. You can always consider Campy...


Thank you for accepting me into your group of "Real Men" who ride pink and yelow bikes!

I have enough all Crampy Italian, Brit and French bikes!

These are my most outrageous (and only) examples of Japanese rice rockets!

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Ironman Expert on a sunny spring morning

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I bought this Ironman Expert shortly before the Christmas holidays and spent the better part of them overhauling it. It really cleaned up nicely. Polishing compound really helped bring out the underlying finish. A few coats of Meguiar's carnuba wax on it helps protect the shine.
The purple phlox flowers have returned this spring along the roadside. They make for a wonderful ride through the countryside.
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I worked on a similar Ironman over the winter, but it's not as photogenic as yours! Nice job.

Hope to post an epic thread on that project by summer.
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Hey all, first post here. I couldn't resist it any longer. This thread is awesome...it's amazing how great a 20+ year old bike can look with a little bit of love! Mine isn't an Ironman, but it's the slightly younger cousin/sibling, Diamondback Master TG with the Shimano 105 components. Still trying to determine actual build year. I bought it for dirt cheap (60 bucks!) a year ago, and rode the heck out of it after only replacing the tires (dry, cracked gum sidewalls...). During the off-time over the winter, I developed a little bit of upgrade-itis after a brief battle with "replace-it-itis". I decided the bike is too unique to get rid of and for the fit and function of what it provides....spending 1000+ for "same level components in something new" was a stretch...so I strategically replaced a few parts to slightly edit the fit/function/fashion aspects (shorter stem, wider range rear cassette, slightly smaller front small chainring, new wheels), and voila! I've been lovin' with this bike from day one of ownership, despite is overwhelming pinkness, and now...well, I wonder why I ever wanted to get rid of it at all. It's definitely a conversation piece. It does everything I need and want in a bike, in a package that not many others can say "yeah, it looks just like mine" :-D

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Hiya~

Long time lurker, 1st time poster. Wasn't sure where I was going to post this, or if I was going to make a new thread but decided that this was best. Since I now also have an Ironman, I guess I can participate. I picked this up from CL, asking price was $350. I got it down to $320, but I was aiming for $300 flat. He wouldn't budge from 320. Anyways, I would like to know more about it, if it's all original or if things were swapped. What year and stuff like that. (that's me pinging you, Mr Robbie. )

Based on what I have read up and researched, it's an 86' model. I hope its an 86' model. That's the year my wifey was born. Not sure about the rest. The serial is N6A6988, not sure if that will help or not. The pictures actually make it look nicer than it is, it's kinda banged and beat up. I'm worried bout rust and stuff, but I'm not sure if I should be or not. It's my 1st real road bike and man do I love riding it. My other bike is a no name fixie, nothing special other than a Sugino 75 chainring. Anyways, here's the specs and pics I saved from the CL listing.




51CM CENTURION DAVE SCOTT IRONMAN TRIATHLON/ROAD BIKE
MADE IN JAPAN
FULL TANGE 1 CHROMOLY TUBING
NEW CORK DROPBAR TAPE
NEW INNER TUBES/NEW TIRES
NEW SADDLE
GOLDEN ARAYA WHEELSET ON SHIMANO 600 HUBS, BOTH ARE TRUE
COMPLETE SET OF SHIMANO 600 COMPONENTS!
( CRANKSET, SHIFTERS, DERAILLEURS, BRAKES, BRAKE LEVERS )
MKS PEDALS WITH SOMA CAGES
12-SPEED

BTW, those tubes are not new. The schrader valve was rusted and gunked up. New saddle, tires and bar tape tho. But that saddle hurts. I don't really like that the brake hoods are kinda loose. It's dia compe hoods. Also, not sure if brake levers are Shimano, but then again I'm a noob.

Any help or info, just chime in and I will definitely appreciate it. I want to make this bike better and a beast. I mean, it's already a beast, but I wanna make it betterrrrr. So far I'm loving my Ironman.
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Welcome to the club!

It is an '86 - 600EX group and fork crown confirm.

The paint should touch up nicely with Testor's model paints. I got the best results on mine with a coat of white first, then red on top. Treat the rust (if any) first.

You'll find it's a great bike.
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