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Old 04-12-12, 12:09 PM   #76
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So...I stumbled onto this forum when trying to find out what to do with my:

89 Ceturion Ironman Master(White/Gray marble)...all original except saddle and of course new tires and bar tape. It's a 60cm.

I have been using it until lately as my indoor trainer bike. It rides great...but does have some rust on TT because of sweat. Very upsetting. I should of known better.

Anyway....Is there a way to get rid of the rust and re-paint? Or is it too much trouble.

Any ideas as to do what to do with it would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry no pics as of this time.
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Hey all, first post here. I couldn't resist it any longer. This thread is awesome...it's amazing how great a 20+ year old bike can look with a little bit of love! Mine isn't an Ironman, but it's the slightly younger cousin/sibling, Diamondback Master TG with the Shimano 105 components. Still trying to determine actual build year. I bought it for dirt cheap (60 bucks!) a year ago, and rode the heck out of it after only replacing the tires (dry, cracked gum sidewalls...). During the off-time over the winter, I developed a little bit of upgrade-itis after a brief battle with "replace-it-itis". I decided the bike is too unique to get rid of and for the fit and function of what it provides....spending 1000+ for "same level components in something new" was a stretch...so I strategically replaced a few parts to slightly edit the fit/function/fashion aspects (shorter stem, wider range rear cassette, slightly smaller front small chainring, new wheels), and voila! I've been lovin' with this bike from day one of ownership, despite is overwhelming pinkness, and now...well, I wonder why I ever wanted to get rid of it at all. It's definitely a conversation piece. It does everything I need and want in a bike, in a package that not many others can say "yeah, it looks just like mine" :-D

Very well put. That has the pedigree, and one of the wilder paint jobs. Seems like the Panasonics, Paramounts and the D'backs were trying to outdo each other with that stuff. Your approach to doing what it takes to make it work for you is straight up. Welcome to the forum.

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Hiya~

Long time lurker, 1st time poster. Wasn't sure where I was going to post this, or if I was going to make a new thread but decided that this was best. Since I now also have an Ironman, I guess I can participate. I picked this up from CL, asking price was $350. I got it down to $320, but I was aiming for $300 flat. He wouldn't budge from 320. Anyways, I would like to know more about it, if it's all original or if things were swapped. What year and stuff like that. (that's me pinging you, Mr Robbie. )
Horatio beat me to it. Sorry if our enthusiasm has driven the price up, but it's worth the touchups, etc.

Based on what I have read up and researched, it's an 86' model. I hope its an 86' model. That's the year my wifey was born.
That's pretty cool. Is she tired of the jokes yet?

Not sure about the rest. The serial is N6A6988, not sure if that will help or not. The pictures actually make it look nicer than it is, it's kinda banged and beat up. I'm worried bout rust and stuff, but I'm not sure if I should be or not. It's my 1st real road bike and man do I love riding it. My other bike is a no name fixie, nothing special other than a Sugino 75 chainring. Anyways, here's the specs and pics I saved from the CL listing.




51CM CENTURION DAVE SCOTT IRONMAN TRIATHLON/ROAD BIKE
MADE IN JAPAN
FULL TANGE 1 CHROMOLY TUBING
NEW CORK DROPBAR TAPE
NEW INNER TUBES/NEW TIRES
NEW SADDLE
GOLDEN ARAYA WHEELSET ON SHIMANO 600 HUBS, BOTH ARE TRUE
COMPLETE SET OF SHIMANO 600 COMPONENTS!
( CRANKSET, SHIFTERS, DERAILLEURS, BRAKES, BRAKE LEVERS )
MKS PEDALS WITH SOMA CAGES
12-SPEED

BTW, those tubes are not new. The schrader valve was rusted and gunked up. New saddle, tires and bar tape tho. But that saddle hurts. I don't really like that the brake hoods are kinda loose. It's dia compe hoods. Also, not sure if brake levers are Shimano, but then again I'm a noob.

Brake levers should be Dia Compe's, so the hoods should be, too. They're available, still, in black, red, etc.

Any help or info, just chime in and I will definitely appreciate it. I want to make this bike better and a beast. I mean, it's already a beast, but I wanna make it betterrrrr. So far I'm loving my Ironman.
Glad to know the bike is still winning people over. Welcome to the forum, too!

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So...I stumbled onto this forum (a lot of us are stumblers) when trying to find out what to do with my:

89 Ceturion Ironman Master(White/Gray marble)...all original except saddle and of course new tires and bar tape. It's a 60cm.

I have been using it until lately as my indoor trainer bike. It rides great...but does have some rust on TT because of sweat. Very upsetting. I should of known better.

Anyway....Is there a way to get rid of the rust and re-paint? Or is it too much trouble.

Any ideas as to do what to do with it would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry no pics as of this time.
Rustoleum makes a rust remover, sold at Walmart for about $6 in the auto body section. Basically a naval jelly, or something. Works great with a toothbrush, just apply, let it sit a bit, then rinse. After that, you can prime it with some Rustoleum or something close, and then turn to touchup paint. Testor's white pens for big stuff, Sharpie paint pens in medium and fine point work, too. I've gone ahead and gotten a clear touchup pen lately for some touchup I did on an older frame, but clear nail polish will help "hold" the touchup, too. If you get more ambitious, you can try primer, then a few layers of touchup, then rubbing compound to get it smooth, then some clear spray (Duplicolor, or some hobby sprays), and then some compound and wax.... For that model, there is a Ford grey that works pretty well in the marbled areas.

Welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting; I think you'll find a kindred spirit in cehowardGS, on his Centurion Ironman thread....http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...urion-Ironmans.

That 600 tricolor group looks great with that marbled grey background. A.K.A. the "Hard Rock" Ironman.

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Welcome to the club!

It is an '86 - 600EX group and fork crown confirm.

The paint should touch up nicely with Testor's model paints. I got the best results on mine with a coat of white first, then red on top. Treat the rust (if any) first.

You'll find it's a great bike.
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Horatio beat me to it. Sorry if our enthusiasm has driven the price up, but it's worth the touchups, etc.
Brake levers should be Dia Compe's, so the hoods should be, too. They're available, still, in black, red, etc.
Glad to know the bike is still winning people over. Welcome to the forum, too!
Yea, I totally fell in love with it the moment I saw it in person. After the initial ride, couldn't be happier. Thanks for the info Horatio and Robbie. I plan on touching up the paint and to try and make it look cleaner. So from what I gather, Walmart has a rust remover that works, then I prime with something and I follow with touch up paint. Right right?

It is Dia-Compe brake levers, Robbie you was right. It has a stamp in white on the front that says AGC. Are there any readily available hoods that fit snugs?

There's a small dent on the top tube. Is there an easy fix for this? It's right after the middle cable holding thingy.

Will keep you guys updated as I fix her up.
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Yes, you're Right right on the paint thing.

AGC = Aero Gran Compe, I thinke.
The hoods should fit pretty well, run about $15/set I think.

Not sure about dents. I leave them alone, a place to keep my gum while I ride.
Others here know about them; do a search on the topic.

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Well, I just got back from a tour of NYC on my purple haze and have a good pic on the Brooklyn Bridge I thought I would share. The bike recently went back to DT shifters (the sex) and got a thomson zero post to dial in my fit better. I take fit very seriously and it makes my bike look ready for the kill (in my personal opinion lol) The front wheel was just something I threw on for the city since it's a tough rim. I am getting together the parts to build up some new wheels on the tricolor hubs with similar depth rims though...
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Nice bumps....I see the kids are all right....
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I picked this up for my brother and gave him my black Turbo



It has much better wheels and tires on it now. The front is actually an Ambrosio but the spokes are not in great shape.
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Posted a couple of weeks ago about a customer wanting to have me build a short-ish tri-style vintage/classy bike for his daughter.
The finished product: a Miami Vice Iron Man. 10 speed double (love them Truvativ square taper cranksets!), Vittoria Pro's, Shimano R500 wheelset, new Selle Italia XO saddle, really a very nice bike.
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I purchased a "Miami Vice" Ironman at the beginning of the month for a great price, and have spent the past few weeks getting it ready to ride. Had it shipped from Houston to Cincinnati, so it had to be re-assembled and tuned once it arrived, and it needed new tires and tubes as well. Here's a poor-quality iPod picture of when I brought it home from the LBS:



The bike was in great shape and everything ran smooth, but for me it was nigh unrideable with the aero bars. So I ordered a new Nitto stem and Nitto drop bars, and had the gear levers move back down to their original position on the downtube. Here's what it looks like as of earlier today:




I opted not to take any detail shots yet since the bike needs a good cleaning first (she's in fantastic shape, just a little dirty). I've only ridden it around the LBS parking lot and around the neighborhood a couple times, but I absolutely love it so far. Already have my mind set on finding a white/grey marble Master at some point in the future.

P.S. Looking to swap the saddle for something white and period correct, to match the bars/hoods and pedals. Any suggestions would be much appreciated

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I recently purchased an Ironman from a guy who had it stolen and recovered twice, which is about the luckiest thing I've heard in a long time. Anyway, the first time it was stolen it was rattlecanned red, the second time it was rattlecanned blue. The owner, who bought it in the early 90's, tried getting some of the spray paint off, but didn't get the hard to reach areas, and unfortunately the other areas were sanded a bit to vigorously. Anyway, could anyone tell me where I would find the serial number so I don't have to go searching under two layers of paint a bunch of times? Pics to come soon.
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SN is on the underside of the bottom bracket
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I've got a white San Marco Regal on mine, and it looks right.
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I've got a white San Marco Regal on mine, and it looks right.
Hmm, that's a nice saddle, but I'm not too keen on the rivets. Just seems a little too classic for a Miami Vice IMO.

But, thanks to your suggestion, I'm now quite interested in finding a used or NOS Concor Supercorsa. So thank you anyways!
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Might as well post this here, too ^_^

My '87. Got the frame & fork in trade for my '90 Bottecchia ADR from another BFer in the "frame doesn't fit" thread last year, finally finished building it up recently, still getting the fit right. Full '90 105 group save the FD, which I think is original.

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hi all you appreciative centurion bike fans,as we all know the japanese built many fine bikes(or at least marketed them under various guises.) and the mid range bikes by centurion,panasonic(and pannie built schwinns),diamondbacks,miyatas,univegas(especially the miyata built frames) etc remain underappreciated and considerably underpriced though quietly undercoveted........i think these mid range( and nicer) models are way nicer in terms of ride quality,aesthetics,finish work as well as uniqueness put them heads above any tig welded(unlugged) frame currently available built in taiwan.....however,i do think that surlys,somas and similar do deserve the respect and popularity they receive because they get people on steel bikes who do not care to ride nor want vintage machines..........its not what you ride but that you ride.........
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Hmm, that's a nice saddle, but I'm not too keen on the rivets. Just seems a little too classic for a Miami Vice IMO.

But, thanks to your suggestion, I'm now quite interested in finding a used or NOS Concor Supercorsa. So thank you anyways!
Get a white Flite, maybe.
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hi all you appreciative centurion bike fans,as we all know the japanese built many fine bikes(or at least marketed them under various guises.) and the mid range bikes by centurion,panasonic(and pannie built schwinns),diamondbacks,miyatas,univegas(especially the miyata built frames) etc remain underappreciated and considerably underpriced though quietly undercoveted........i think these mid range( and nicer) models are way nicer in terms of ride quality,aesthetics,finish work as well as uniqueness put them heads above any tig welded(unlugged) frame currently available built in taiwan.....however,i do think that surlys,somas and similar do deserve the respect and popularity they receive because they get people on steel bikes who do not care to ride nor want vintage machines..........its not what you ride but that you ride.........
OK. Nice point, kind of ironic, when you think about it, older steel bikes helping to sell newer steel bikes. I know a guy who followed that exact model: built an Ironman, then bought a Soma frame and built that.

Welcome to the forum. Take an '89 Ironman Master, and get it cleaned, lubed, true and tension the wheels, and adjust it. Or put modern components on it. Then, compare its all-around competence to an '89 Pinarello Montello, or an '89 Cinelli Super Corsa. I have, and don't consider it mid-level any more. In my opinion, the only better all-around frame I could have is an Ironman clone made of Ti. And someday, I'd like to hire that done.
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This just in: '85 Iron Man. 57.5 X 57.5, full Shimano 600 EX. Amazing condition. Bought it from a guy in the midwest who was the original owner and he clearly kept it up nicely. His measurements were incorrect to my benefit, since I expected this to be more like a 60 but is instead my size. Ignore the brake cables coming out of the hoods- they are just stuck in there temporarily. This is quite literally how it came out of the box:







Not exactly sure what I'm going to do with it. Had intended to use the groupset on another bike and sell/resto-mod the frame, but also have a virtually NOS 600 SIS RD and shifters, so may just upgrade this and use it as a Sunday Ride With The Wife bike.
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Not exactly sure what I'm going to do with it. Had intended to use the groupset on another bike and sell/resto-mod the frame, but also have a virtually NOS 600 SIS RD and shifters, so may just upgrade this and use it as a Sunday Ride With The Wife bike.
What you do with it is your business, but don't sell the bike short. Tune it up, make sure the brake pads and tires are still good and replace if necessary, and take it out on your normal rides. Unless you have a lot of hills where the 42t small ring won't be much help, you'll find you'll maintain the same speeds you do on your other bikes. A lot of us have upgraded these to current (or recent) drivetrains - I've got nine speed Tiagra 4500 compact crank, brifters and FD, with an Ultegra 6500 RD, on my '87; found a set of used 600 hubs and re-built the original rear wheel with the 600 hub and current freehub, and that bike is slicker than snot on a doorknob.

Then again, if the Mrs. is a Cat 2, your original plan would work fine!
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Oh, yeah, I'm aware of what these can be made into. Check out the Miami Vice at the top of this page that I finished a couple of weeks ago for a customer.

Mrs. is partially disabled, and our Sunday rides tend to be more like 5-6 mile jaunts around the neighborhood, so I usually keep one vintage-y 6 speed bike around for those. She's working up to do the 28 mile loop in the Tour du Port in Baltimore at the end of September. That would be the longest ride she's ever done. A real trooper, that one.
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After some years of casual searching, I finally landed an Ironman in my size for only 80 smackers. The original Nitto bars were flipped and chopped and the 105 group was super haggard, so I juiced it up with a complete tri-color group and white turbo saddle. The ride is fantastic and the graphics and color scheme take me back to that special place where everyone carried a Trapper Keeper and played Jazz Fusion on their Keytar.

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Not exactly sure what I'm going to do with it.
2cm bigger and cehowardGS may have been at your door....

....Had intended to use the groupset on another bike and sell/resto-mod the frame, but also have a virtually NOS 600 SIS RD and shifters, so may just upgrade this and use it as a Sunday Ride With The Wife bike.
Beauty. Much better shape than mine, which is still in the touchup phase. Very nice. The quickness of the later frames, a little bit smoother, which I think is due to 1/2 degree of geometry change, but I do not know for sure. The 85's were Tange 1 upgrades to the Tange 2 Comp TA, and I can't wait to get mine on the road. It's going to be my century bike.

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