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Old 12-18-15, 12:13 PM
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If I can find the right frame, I'm going to do one powder coated in white with decals using green as the primary color, a green Concor suede saddle, green cable housing, and green leather Smootape. Even have a pair of green Cobra period correct bottle cages & Dura Ace 7700 9 speed with 7700 hubs laced to polished Pacenti box section rims.

That baby would pop. And roll, you betcha.
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Originally Posted by rccardr
If I can find the right frame, I'm going to do one powder coated in white with decals using green as the primary color, a green Concor suede saddle, green cable housing, and green leather Smootape. Even have a pair of green Cobra period correct bottle cages & Dura Ace 7700 9 speed with 7700 hubs laced to polished Pacenti box section rims.

That baby would pop. And roll, you betcha.
I think Dura Ace 7700 is some of the most beautiful Shimano out there. I like the sound of this.

*Edit I meant of all Shimano stuff, not just DA
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Hah.

Partially seriously, though.....

For Pedigree:
1-Another Cinelli-made Equipe, in great shape. Awesome bike.
2-One model of each Ironman, no differentiating. Every year, every model, every color.
3-1979-1981 Semi Pro tied with 1985-1986 Prestige
4-1986 Facet
5-1979-1981 Pro Tour

For Background:
1-The carbon model Dave Scott rode in Hawaii.
2-One of the pink team bikes.
3-QV's Carbon-R
4-My choice from rccardr's Ironman builds
5-A couple of the repaints I've seen, a white one and a green one = seypat's Miami Vice with the lugged fork....

Now, those are just the top 5 of each, off the top of my pointed head.

Of course, I want them all.....
Slightly off topic for a Centurion thread,.........But would the Cinelli Lotus bikes, particularly the Record be on par with the Cenelli Equipe? I would think given the similarities with the companies it would be.
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Originally Posted by rccardr
If I can find the right frame, I'm going to do one powder coated in white with decals using green as the primary color, a green Concor suede saddle, green cable housing, and green leather Smootape. Even have a pair of green Cobra period correct bottle cages & Dura Ace 7700 9 speed with 7700 hubs laced to polished Pacenti box section rims.

That baby would pop. And roll, you betcha.
If I was going to do a repaint in a color combo that was not original, it would be blue and silver. In the pictures of the grey/silver you posted, the grey has a blue hue to it. I thought it was blue and silver. I had to look hard to see that it was grey. Very sharp. This one. Find a blue that looks like that and it would be sweeeeeet!


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Originally Posted by rccardr
If I can find the right frame, I'm going to do one powder coated in white with decals using green as the primary color, a green Concor suede saddle, green cable housing, and green leather Smootape. Even have a pair of green Cobra period correct bottle cages & Dura Ace 7700 9 speed with 7700 hubs laced to polished Pacenti box section rims.

That baby would pop. And roll, you betcha.
There is a white bike somewhere in this thread with lime green accents. very sharp.
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Old 12-18-15, 02:17 PM
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equipe for sale locally for at least a year. is that your size RT?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5320132232.html


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Originally Posted by rccardr
If I can find the right frame, I'm going to do one powder coated in white with decals using green as the primary color, a green Concor suede saddle, green cable housing, and green leather Smootape. Even have a pair of green Cobra period correct bottle cages & Dura Ace 7700 9 speed with 7700 hubs laced to polished Pacenti box section rims.

That baby would pop. And roll, you betcha.
Yep, you could really shrek, ....er, shred on that one.... You balance your colors so well...
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Originally Posted by seypat
Slightly off topic for a Centurion thread,.........But would the Cinelli Lotus bikes, particularly the Record be on par with the Cenelli Equipe? I would think given the similarities with the companies it would be.
I don't know, but my bet is the same shop built the frames, Chirico in Bussero. Long-time contract builder for Cinelli. Tubing/geometry/details all matter, none of which I know.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I don't know, but my bet is the same shop built the frames, Chirico in Bussero. Long-time contract builder for Cinelli. Tubing/geometry/details all matter, none of which I know.
Looking at the pictures, it appears that way. And since there is an Equipe right above this post, here is the Lotus for comparison. It might be closer to the Supreme.

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if only this was about 10x larger...


Short frame Centurion 12 speed road racer
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Originally Posted by websterrr
if only this was about 10x larger...


Short frame Centurion 12 speed road racer
That one has been on our CL for quite a while. I had been thinking about picking it up just to get my hands on it to make it all spanking new. But alas, with so many projects, I didn't dare put forward an offer that might get accepted and then I'd HAVE to buy it! haha
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Are Diamondbacks allowed in here? I have a 1991 Master TG.
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Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot
Are Diamondbacks allowed in here? I have a 1991 Master TG.
yes. i'd like to see it.
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Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot
Are Diamondbacks allowed in here? I have a 1991 Master TG.
Sure, especially with that userID.
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Old 12-20-15, 06:27 PM
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I don't think this qualifies: Dave Scott Ironman Centurion Custom Upgrades | eBay
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Wait, isn't that the one you bought? I mean had you listed as the buyer. Well at least it's patriotic?

Centurion Dave Scott Ironman: Manufactured in Japan. Designed in the United States. Italian geometry. Steel sourced from the planet Alderaan. It's beyond worldly, it universal.

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Old 12-21-15, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
I mean had you listed as the buyer.
When you send a message, and go back and review the messages, the person who contacted the seller is listed as the buyer.
Now, for 888.88, no,
but for 8.88 and free shipping, maybe.
88.88 if it was a genuine Ironman frame with repaint, maybe,
IF I could get those decals off and apply some real ones, Velocals, make it a hipster-wannabe single speed, and sell it for $1100 in Colorado....
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
When you send a message, and go back and review the messages, the person who contacted the seller is listed as the buyer.
Now, for 888.88, no,
but for 8.88 and free shipping, maybe.
88.88 if it was a genuine Ironman frame with repaint, maybe,
IF I could get those decals off and apply some real ones, Velocals, make it a hipster-wannabe single speed, and sell it for $1100 in Colorado....
Literal Lol. Just messing with you R.T. because of your disdain for that bike. However upon closer review of bike pics I see your point. Those "decals", that head badge, paint scheme, and most of all price. Do you think it's a real Ironman? There is a lot of room underneath the rear brake. Could be low profile tires.
On a serious note there are two questions about CIM that perplex me.
How can you tell if a repaint is actually an Ironman?
Serial number, lack of Eyelets, Components, seat tube binder bolt location, BB shell cut out style, both style forks. Anything else? What about in a case like this?
2nd Question. Other than the 46cm Terry style avaliable only in 87. Centurion list 48cm as the smallest size. What does that look like? I have a 56, 54, 52, and 50 CIM. Unless my 50 is a 48, but that would make my 52 a 50 and 54 a 52 and so on..
Perhaps there is a missing link or no 48. Perhaps there is no answer? Or a discussion best suited for a national gathering of CIM owners. Yeah lets do that.

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Old 12-21-15, 12:43 PM
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Maybe the missing link is the 58CM. Check out the frame sizes available in this BG review in 1986. Somehow I missed that.
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He has relisted this, and I asked again for proof of what it was.

His response was extremely indignant, but he did say he bought it used "20 years ago" from the original owner and "upgraded it" to accommodate his superhuman ability on the hills of PA.

He then listed all his other accomplishments changing OEM stuff to be better, like a cafe racer scooter. The price and his inability to provide any details make it very suspect, and no one will ever know the quality/condition of the original frame, if it was originally an Ironman. He actually responded twice.

His indignation is not justified, but I won't argue with his price, since it's still sort of a free country and a person can charge what he/she wants. In my opinion, it is NOT an upgrade, is worth about $150 if it actually is an Ironman, and would likely be an '86 or '87 model. If one could obtain it for $150 (shipped) and the paint was, at minimum, an automotive-type spray, then one could conceivably order VeloCals decals in appropriate colors, and rebuild it as an Ironman repaint and probably have a cool bike.

That likelihood is very low.


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Literal Lol. Just messing with you R.T. because of your disdain for that bike. However upon closer review of bike pics I see your point. Those "decals", that head badge, paint scheme, and most of all price. Do you think it's a real Ironman? There is a lot of room underneath the rear brake. Could be low profile tires.
On a serious note there are two questions about CIM that perplex me.
How can you tell if a repaint is actually an Ironman?
Serial number, lack of Eyelets, Components, seat tube binder bolt location, BB shell cut out style, both style forks. Anything else? What about in a case like this?
2nd Question. Other than the 46cm Terry style avaliable only in 87. Centurion list 48cm as the smallest size. What does that look like? I have a 56, 54, 52, and 50 CIM. Unless my 50 is a 48, but that would make my 52 a 50 and 54 a 52 and so on..
Perhaps there is a missing link or no 48. Perhaps there is no answer? Or a discussion best suited for a national gathering of CIM owners. Yeah lets do that.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Maybe the missing link is the 58CM. Check out the frame sizes available in this BG review in 1986. Somehow I missed that.
Several surprises there:

1-No 58cm. I think I've seen more of those than any size.

2-The magazine tested a 64cm. That is odd as hell. Usually they tested 58cm (and I always felt my 56cm were lightweights, then)

3-The 64cm weighed 21 lbs 13 oz. That is super light for a bike that size, comparable to anything out there during that era.
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Just updating:
Previously and currently. Removed stuck stem, however Couldn't remove seat post. I'm gonna leave it in for now,and hope it fits. Like when RT rehabbed the 87 yellow two tone for his friend. But if it's too tall, I'll hack saw it like jetboy did.
The pedals were the hardest to remove. I intend to reuse parts it came with,sans pedals. I have some wheels thanks to a trade with RT. Everything else I have except brake calipers.
I wouldn't have known about this bike if it weren't for this forum and RT. And I wouldn't know what size BB tools to get if it weren't for marwesti. This is my first BB overhaul as I've always let the LBS handle it. (Didn't have proper tools)
Tomorrow I will clean frame thoroughly, then overhaul BB,Headset,and reinstall crankset .
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its a real PIA to get those seat posts out. I cut mine and went at it with various hacksaws. in the end i destroyed most of it, then was able to get it moving by pounding it down.. then cleaning the corrosion from the tube, so it could then slide back up and out.

I did not manage to do this without making a tiny dimple in the tube- from when the tube I was using to pound with deformed. I am ok with that as I don't plan to sell the bike and its structurally fine.. but be careful! I was sad but got over it after the first ride with the seat properly adjusted.
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Ammonia will sometimes break that bond between the steel tubing and the alloy post.
Many here have used PB Blaster soaks, from top and bottom. The flutes are your way in.
The main thing here is patience, and long-term patience at that.
Last but not least, talk to LBS. Talk first; they can be as ham-handed as anyone.
If there's a mechanic in there with grey hair, talk to him or her.
If there's a female mechanic without grey hair, but looks old enough, talk to her, it could be colored.

Since you have spare seat post, after soaking, try putting the post in a vice, frame upside down, and twisting the frame to/fro.
I've seen that work quite a few times, but only after extensive soaking, like weeks.

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I tried the ammonia for weeks on mine. but if the build up is too much, there is just no way to get in and you got to go all out on it. I did the vice thing as well and just broke the post. hopefully yours is not as bad as mine.
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