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jimmuller 09-26-11 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13280452)
But it doesn't. The same amount of chain is wrapped around the chain ring at all times

Ah! Of course. As you crank the pedals, for every tooth gained at the top you lose exactly the same at the bottom because the ring has radial symmetry. Very clever, those mechanical engineers. :D

Not that this has anything to do with bent forks.

Sixty Fiver 09-26-11 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 13221600)
Feel free to use this thread to post your "is this fork bent?" inquiries

i will start with this ironman i saw on CL..

I should have started this thread... :)

photogravity 09-26-11 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 13280372)
I thought the flipped drop bars were the international symbol for " busted for DWI"?

ROFL! So now you tell me... I was wondering why I was getting so many strange looks. I thought it was the inverted handlebar, but it is because everyone (other than me, at least) knows it means "busted for DWI". Doh!!

ColonelJLloyd 09-26-11 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13280452)
But it doesn't. The same amount of chain is wrapped around the chain ring at all times. .

That's what I wanted to say. I agree that when you look at a perfect circle mated to a non-perfect cicle it doesn't look like it would play nice, but apparently it does.

OldsCOOL 09-26-11 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by David Newton (Post 13280248)
I've discovered a great feature, apparently the folks here in the "hood" have known for some time. If you flip the bars a certain way, the brakes become "power brakes" turning the weight of your upper body into a "increasing pressure tool".

Kinda like "preloading" the front suspension in rallye racing :D

OldsCOOL 09-26-11 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 13280372)
I thought the flipped drop bars were the international symbol for " busted for DWI"?

That is toooo funny :lol:

photogravity 09-26-11 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by OldsCOOL (Post 13280625)
That is toooo funny :lol:

Fortunately, I'm finished drinking coffee for the day; otherwise, I might have had a mess to clean up.

himespau 09-26-11 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 13280504)
That's what I wanted to say. I agree that when you look at a perfect circle mated to a non-perfect cicle it doesn't look like it would play nice, but apparently it does.

but isn't it an oval so that when the chain is wrapped around both "points" of the oval (the long ends are up and down) there's more contact than when only one long end is wrapped (when they're horizontal)? maybe I'm just thinking about it all wrong.

michael k 09-26-11 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 13280372)
I thought the flipped drop bars were the international symbol for " busted for DWI"?

Its also for those who suffer from acid-reflux. :rolleyes:

ColonelJLloyd 09-26-11 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 13280703)
but isn't it an oval so that when the chain is wrapped around both "points" of the oval (the long ends are up and down) there's more contact than when only one long end is wrapped (when they're horizontal)? maybe I'm just thinking about it all wrong.

Not wrong. Maybe just too hard. ;)

frantik 09-26-11 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 13280703)
but isn't it an oval so that when the chain is wrapped around both "points" of the oval (the long ends are up and down) there's more contact than when only one long end is wrapped (when they're horizontal)? maybe I'm just thinking about it all wrong.

you are right.. it's just biopace rings are not really "oval".. they very close to round and the difference isn't enough to make the tension an issue.. the chain will not come off if you set the tension properly. I know cause i've made a fixed gear with the same biopace rings that guy is using (well not those exact ones, but the same model)

Sixty Fiver 09-26-11 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 13280703)
but isn't it an oval so that when the chain is wrapped around both "points" of the oval (the long ends are up and down) there's more contact than when only one long end is wrapped (when they're horizontal)? maybe I'm just thinking about it all wrong.

Biopace chain rings are not a true oval and overcome the deficiencies of oval chain wheels and Shimano described them as a "point-symmetric egg curve".

When you are in the power phase of the pedaling stroke and the cranks are horizontal you engage the smaller radius which allows you to accelerate your foot and then when the pedals are vertical and in the dead spot you are engaging the higher radius which smooths the transition speed as your legs changes direction.

Like Sheldon I agree that this was a great design that should have had broader acceptance among general cyclists and they are particularly nice when you use them on certain bicycles like tourers, mountain bikes, and utility bicycles.

You can spin them at high cadences just as easily and they can smooth things out for some but they really shine at lower cadence when you want to be able to lay down consistent smooth power.

This design has seen a rebirth as other companies are now offered similar designs and these have shown themselves to be quite successful in racing applications.

I suffer from neuropathy in my left leg and this causes some issues with maintaining a smooth cadence and can increase the stress to my right leg which does much more of the pedaling work under high loads. I recently installed a Biopace triple on my commuter / utility bike and also have one on my extracycle and can really notice the benefits this brings.

I have a nice collection of Biopace rings here and plan to retrofit my touring bike as besides the climbing advantage it will allow me to spin higher gears in a smoother fashion as this is where I have the most issues.

I have used Biopace on ss and fixed gear bicycles with no issues and have a Biopace single set up to install on my new winter bike as I think this will be a very suitable application.

frantik 10-06-11 11:03 AM

this is a tricky one.. i dont think it is but kinda hard to tell

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...i/SDC12646.jpg

Maddox 10-06-11 11:21 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/...fdfb0bee_z.jpg

I don't know. What do you guys think? Is it just the lens effect?

jimmuller 10-06-11 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 13327727)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/...fdfb0bee_z.jpg

I don't know. What do you guys think? Is it just the lens effect?

That's a southern hemisphere fork. It just looks odd to us NH people.

photogravity 10-06-11 02:29 PM

I've been riding this on my nightly training runs... Handling's a tad twitchy with its racing geometry and aggressive seating position.

http://www.greenephantom.com/yahoo_s...0632_large.jpg

mapleleafs-13 10-17-11 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 13280437)

hipster kids ain't got sh*t on them...... their little skids on fixed gear bikes are peanuts compared to the skills that these chicks possess...

frantik 09-07-12 12:30 AM

pretty sure this one is bent and turned around lol

http://images.craigslist.org/5Y45W35...3d7a6d17e1.jpg

eschlwc 09-07-12 01:00 AM

is this fork bent?

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/q...t/DSCF9075.jpg
'70s competition gs
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/bik/3240215368.html

frantik 09-07-12 01:11 AM

^ it kinda looks like it but if you look closely you can see the wheel is turned a tiny bit

VeloBrox 09-07-12 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 14701061)
pretty sure this one is bent and turned around lol

http://images.craigslist.org/5Y45W35...3d7a6d17e1.jpg

Nah son that's an Hetchins.

DanielWilde 09-07-12 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 14701076)

I'd say yes. Though it's made for optional mudguards to be fitted, there is probably not enough space for it. Fork looks suspicious to me...

Sixty Fiver 09-07-12 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 14701076)

I would say yes.

Sixty Fiver 09-07-12 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 14701061)
pretty sure this one is bent and turned around lol

http://images.craigslist.org/5Y45W35...3d7a6d17e1.jpg

Looks like a homage to a Bates Diadrant fork made from a Raleigh fork.

jimmuller 09-07-12 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 14701781)
Looks like a homage to a Bates Diadrant fork made from a Raleigh fork.

At least the rake is in the right direction - forward.


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