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Kakakura Silk: New Keeper for the thrifty fleet?

Old 09-13-11, 07:47 PM
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Kakakura Silk: New Keeper for the thrifty fleet?

OK, I picked this frameset up off Charlotte Craigs List. I really don't know why anyone local didn't snag it first. Full chrome, classic Japanese bike, $75, whats not to like?

PO had stripped the components, all the Suntour parts had early 1985 date codes, so I am thinking 1985 ish. Had LePree FD and RD., 700c wheelset, etc. Got some of the parts, owner kept some of the rest.

Serial number is 1S513677. Sure thought the bike was a little older. Chrome is in pretty good shape overall, a tad crusty. So I'll probably give it a quick OA soak before building it up. In the close up, you can see the light speckling.

First question is what to use to build it back up? I have the LePree derailleurs and levers that came off the bike. In my bin, I have a variety of bits, from nice Arabeque 600, to Suntour Cyclone Gen 1 (my leaning right now), to a variety of more modern stuff. I also have black rims, black stem and bars, or silver rims, bars, stem. Lots of choices.

If I go one of the Suntour groups, I'll probably use a set of Superbe Pro hub/Mavic rims that I have had for a while. If I go Shimano, I have a seven speed 600 wheelset.

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Super cool!
Can't wait to see her built up.

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Old 09-13-11, 08:12 PM
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Oh wow. You lucky dog! Very nice find!
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Nice find, Bill

Reminds me of the one Auchen had, and sold off to another member. If it was mine, and I had most/all of the Superbe/pro stuff, I would go that route. It's less common than anything else, and fits into the Japanese bike program.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
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Oh, and I'd go Cyclone all the way with this, btw.
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really nice and not-often-seen Japanese brand. What a score for $75! IIRC there's some connection to the early (like 1972-ish) Nishiki Pro: the twin-plate-crown fork (with round blades) used on that model has a Katakura Silk decal on it...never seen on any other Nishiki AFAIK.
Correction: that decal just says "Silk", maybe nothing to do with Katakura:
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Old 09-13-11, 08:31 PM
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Congrats on a great snag Bill!
- Of course, I was waiting with bated breath until you actually had it because a lot of things can happen to a CL bike in the two hours it took to drive there.

You should go for the Cyclone gen one. You won't be sorry and maybe you can keep the whole black and chrome motif going that way -(though I'm not sure what other bits should be black):
  • Stem
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  • Fenders?
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Old 09-13-11, 08:44 PM
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Sweet find.

+Cyclone
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Been re-reading Dawes-man/Auchencrow's prior Katakura Silk thread. Lots of inspiration there!

Been thinking about the black parts for sure: rims, stem, bars, seat post?? My Superbe Pro hubs are silver finish. I also have a Superbe Pro seat post around here somewhere, but I think it is the wrong size.

Saw what Dawes-man did, Wow! And he used red accents. I would be tempted to use my anodized red Galli bits: RD, crankset (no red FD unfortunately), with red Simplex retrofriction levers. Yet another choice.... But I think a mix of Cyclone Gen 1 with the Superbe Pro wheelset is going to win out.

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Very cool find. Whatever you toss onto is going to look great.
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I just got around to reading the Katakura Silk thread from Dawes-man: what a great thread! I only hit it on the day of the Earthquake and never looked at the earlier posts...glad I did! Anyhow, now I'm even more impressed with the bargain you got.
And I'm pleased to learn that there was a Nishiki connection with Katakura, after all...perhaps he brazed up the forks for the Nishiki Pros, maybe just allowed them to use the name (since as DM points out, the Silk name was a huge presence in the Keirin scene back then.
Now that I've seen it, maybe you should go with the red accents
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Is there an emoticon for "envious"? If so, I would paste it here. Congratulations!
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did anyone realize he spelled it kakakura?
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The chances of such bonanza as a $75 Katkura in Japan are astronomicly smaller than winning a national lottery!

Hey ... why has my screen turned green!?
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did anyone realize he spelled it kakakura?
yes i've been giggling about it to myself.. Bill maybe no one wanted it cause it was kaka (caca)
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It think it should be here in TX with me. Haha.
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Nice find! That build thread of Dawes-man is one of the all time greats here, as far as build threads go. My vote goes out to Arabesque, with red tape and brake cables.
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Nice find! That build thread of Dawes-man is one of the all time greats here, as far as build threads go. My vote goes out to Arabesque, with red tape and brake cables.
Purty! and I'll say +Arabesque. I could argue for black accents because of all the nice black fill of the Arabesque components you can do. Black and chrome. Classic.
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Great find Bill! I came across one last spring and I was inspired by Dawes-man's thread as well. I've slowly been gathering bits and pieces and as of now it will be a mix of 1st. generation Cyclone and Superbe, with a drilled ring Sugino crankset.

I'm struggling with the color scheme, part of me wants to add some subtle pastel colored bar tape and cable housing, kind of a visual lightness worthy of the Silk name. I have a wonderful brown Brooks Pro for it but I'm afraid that will look too heavy color wise.

I'll be watching with interest what you do.

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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
Congrats on a great snag Bill!

You should go for the Cyclone gen one. You won't be sorry and maybe you can keep the whole black and chrome motif going that way -(though I'm not sure what other bits should be black):
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  • Bars
  • Rims
  • Fenders?

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Purty! and I'll say +Arabesque. I could argue for black accents because of all the nice black fill of the Arabesque components you can do. Black and chrome. Classic.
I'm with these guys, black & chrome would be snazzy
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She's a beaut! I think the Superbe Pro/Mavic wheels would be perfect, are they the black wheelset? I think a black wheelset with everything else silver would look cherry---topped off with some aluminium Honjo fenders.
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The Superbe Pro/Mavic wheelset have anodized bronze rims. I also have an older 600 wheelset with black SX100 Rigida rims. Lots of choices.

The Superbe Pro hubs are "smooth as butta". Bought a bike just to get that wheelset, several years ago.

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That thing is a beauty, I now hate you.
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Just a question, looks like a waterslide decal on there, how do those hold up in an OA bath?.

I'll vote for the 600 group just because I'm casually watching for a frame to put a set onto.

Anyone have a link to that other thread some of you above are referring so? Sounds like a worthwhile read.
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Yeah, I am a little worried about those decals myself. They do not appear to be very robust. I'll probably test an area first, before going with a full soak.

I've never had OA affect decals before, but the decals on this bike are pretty shaky to begin with.
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