Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Show us your Belgian bikes!

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Show us your Belgian bikes!

Old 06-28-12, 02:01 PM
  #101  
pullup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 373
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by just dank View Post
waiting on a couple parts, cannot wait.
Great looking bike This will be a killer ride.
pullup is offline  
Old 06-28-12, 02:16 PM
  #102  
just dank
Cult Classic Cycling Club
 
just dank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 685

Bikes: Ridley Helium, Norco Search

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thank you. I rode it about 100km with the parts that came with it, but I'm treating myself to some better.
just dank is offline  
Old 06-28-12, 03:59 PM
  #103  
stevenc
Senior Member
 
stevenc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ghent - Belgium
Posts: 181

Bikes: Eddy Merckx MX Leader "Vive le Roy", Flanders Pista, Poggio Shimano 600 10-speed

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by just dank View Post
This is my Martelly. Im not sure of anything else, tried contacting them, no dice.
Mr. Eddy Martens is not very communicative, and he gets a lot of questions from all over the world. If you ask him in Dutch, he might answer. But you usually get the standard answer: a rant about carbon frames from Taiwan ruining the market and no-one appreciating craftsmanship anymore. Quite bitter.
The Martelly frames are not very common, about a thousand made. He made about 10000 for other brands (Coppi, Scanini, Jan Jansen, Concorde, ...) Also for the pro teams of Splendor; Sigma Histor, Safir, Boston.
stevenc is offline  
Old 06-28-12, 04:07 PM
  #104  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Originally Posted by just dank View Post
This is my Martelly. Im not sure of anything else, tried contacting them, no dice.

Thanks, just dank. Beautiful bike. Great colors!
non-fixie is offline  
Old 06-28-12, 04:19 PM
  #105  
just dank
Cult Classic Cycling Club
 
just dank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 685

Bikes: Ridley Helium, Norco Search

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by stevenc View Post
Mr. Eddy Martens is not very communicative, and he gets a lot of questions from all over the world. If you ask him in Dutch, he might answer. But you usually get the standard answer: a rant about carbon frames from Taiwan ruining the market and no-one appreciating craftsmanship anymore. Quite bitter.
The Martelly frames are not very common, about a thousand made. He made about 10000 for other brands (Coppi, Scanini, Jan Jansen, Concorde, ...) Also for the pro teams of Splendor; Sigma Histor, Safir, Boston.
Yeah, I google translated an e-mail, no response, I just want to know the model name and what it's made out of.
just dank is offline  
Old 07-02-12, 02:54 AM
  #106  
stevenc
Senior Member
 
stevenc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ghent - Belgium
Posts: 181

Bikes: Eddy Merckx MX Leader "Vive le Roy", Flanders Pista, Poggio Shimano 600 10-speed

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The frames build under the Martelly brand are almost all made to measure. e didn't have model names, nor serial numbers (sometimes there's a number on the BB shell but that was done by the painter to be able to keep track). So he won't know what it's made of either. I have one in crimped SLX tubing (there's a decal and you can feel the spiral on the inside). Other tubing will be difficult to identify.
Cute dog btw!
stevenc is offline  
Old 07-02-12, 09:14 PM
  #107  
just dank
Cult Classic Cycling Club
 
just dank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 685

Bikes: Ridley Helium, Norco Search

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by stevenc View Post
The frames build under the Martelly brand are almost all made to measure. e didn't have model names, nor serial numbers (sometimes there's a number on the BB shell but that was done by the painter to be able to keep track). So he won't know what it's made of either. I have one in crimped SLX tubing (there's a decal and you can feel the spiral on the inside). Other tubing will be difficult to identify.
Cute dog btw!
Thanks for the info, thats Wendel Bark. great little dog
just dank is offline  
Old 07-03-12, 01:24 AM
  #108  
kvnmuadib
Senior Member
 
kvnmuadib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: deep in the heart of jersey
Posts: 148

Bikes: 79-80 derosa 80 merckx 89 peugeot dolomites 93 bianchi tsx

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1980 merckx

I bought the frame on e-bay from Belgium.... no tubing sticker,but most likely columbus sl... a mix of super record and c-record.... cinelli old logo stem and ambrosio campione du monde bars ....works for me
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
phpolXf9LPM.jpg (32.7 KB, 277 views)
File Type: jpg
phpmKmRCGPM.jpg (54.3 KB, 257 views)
File Type: jpg
phpkNlCJCPM.jpg (94.6 KB, 267 views)
File Type: jpg
phpk2UE1NPM.jpg (54.3 KB, 686 views)
kvnmuadib is offline  
Old 07-03-12, 12:29 PM
  #109  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Originally Posted by kvnmuadib View Post
I bought the frame on e-bay from Belgium.... no tubing sticker,but most likely columbus sl... a mix of super record and c-record.... cinelli old logo stem and ambrosio campione du monde bars ....works for me
Judging by the starting number mounting thingy, I'd say this is a competition oriented frame. Nice! Thanks for posting it.

non-fixie is offline  
Old 07-05-12, 02:30 PM
  #110  
Munny
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Belgium, Bicycle country
Posts: 226

Bikes: 50 ? More?

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Another of my bikes, somewhat related to my Van Hauwaert (I'll explain)

Does somebody know who was Josť Samyn ?

Josť was a talented racer from the area where Belgium meets France.
Was he French or Belgian ?
It doesn't matter to us but was apparently important during the races.

Of course he decided to race in Belgium and he joined a successfull team from the place I'm leaving : the Royal Courier Sport Baulet.
About at that time, due to regulations, the team was split in two and with the help of a new sponsor, the Pelforth Sauvage Lejeune french team was created.
With most racers coming from the Courrier Sport.
Because of this, he was then still considered as "Belgian" racer and had some issues during his tour de France.
The next year, as he was coming back, during a race, he felt and died, at the age of 23 only.

But Josť has a brother, Gilbert, who sold very well made racing bikes.
Again, altough French, his bikes were Belgian.

I've got this as a frame from a friend :


And after restoring it...



As it was originally, I used mostly Japanese parts



Of course the handlebar is my personal fantasy


The period lamp is gone (got trouble removing my feet from the pedal)


You'll get the other pictures over here https://picasaweb.google.com/1178328...4867578/Samyn#

I've built the wheels with Ambrosio Montreal rims (no trouble so far) on Pelissier 2000 hubs (32 holes)
The brakes are CLB compact with Mafac levers
The crankset is a SR Royal with 1 Sugino Mighty chainring and another SR (different at the picture time)
MKS pedals with adaptor to turn them
Campa derailleurs
SR Saddle tube, stem, handlebars.
Arius saddle.

But what does this has to do with Van Hauwaert ?

Samyn was using Belgian made frames coming only from the best frame makers.
So... you had
- Terryn frames (built by Marcel Vandeneste)
- Plume Sport frames (built by Jacques Van Genk)
and ... this one that was built by Erwin Devisscher (who had taken over the Van Hauwaert company)
I don't know if other frame makers where used but for these 3, It is established.
They were amongst the top belgian frame makers and in the future I'll show other example of their products
Munny is offline  
Old 08-02-12, 10:31 PM
  #111  
just dank
Cult Classic Cycling Club
 
just dank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 685

Bikes: Ridley Helium, Norco Search

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts


just dank is offline  
Old 08-03-12, 02:15 AM
  #112  
stevenc
Senior Member
 
stevenc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ghent - Belgium
Posts: 181

Bikes: Eddy Merckx MX Leader "Vive le Roy", Flanders Pista, Poggio Shimano 600 10-speed

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Never waste the opportunity to post an MX Leader

stevenc is offline  
Old 08-03-12, 02:29 AM
  #113  
stevenc
Senior Member
 
stevenc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ghent - Belgium
Posts: 181

Bikes: Eddy Merckx MX Leader "Vive le Roy", Flanders Pista, Poggio Shimano 600 10-speed

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Another Martelly frame. Crimped Columbus SLX.

stevenc is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 03:59 PM
  #114  
Roni Solomon
Junior Member
 
Roni Solomon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16

Bikes: Atala, Cannondale, Cilo, Colian, Concorde, D'Arienzo, Don Walker, Georama, Lighthouse, Marnati, Quintana Roo, Recherche, Stowe, Tommasini, Uno Pista, U. Scanini, Viner

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
U. Scanini

I picked this up as a frame over a year ago from a dealer in Poland. I believe it is one of the frames built by Eddy Martens (Martelly) for U. Scanini. I just finished building it up today and took it for a ride, so very nice. It has internal routing, Silva dropouts and the signature crimped SLX tubing seen on other U. Scanini and Martelli frames. I think the paint is a bit garish, but it is growing on me.


Attached Images
File Type: jpg
scanini1.jpg (100.5 KB, 280 views)
File Type: jpg
scanini2.jpg (101.3 KB, 266 views)
File Type: jpg
scanini3.jpg (101.4 KB, 274 views)
File Type: jpg
scanini4.jpg (100.8 KB, 268 views)
File Type: jpg
scanini5.jpg (93.8 KB, 264 views)
Roni Solomon is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 04:04 PM
  #115  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Interesting paint job indeed. Thanks for posting it here!
non-fixie is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 06:13 PM
  #116  
big chainring 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 6,553
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 434 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 32 Posts
Kahan Sport. About 1970. I think Kahan was a bike shop in Antwerp.

big chainring is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 06:24 PM
  #117  
big chainring 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 6,553
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 434 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 45 Times in 32 Posts
Originally Posted by dddd View Post
Chas Colerich wrote:
"During the early 70s a lot of lower end Belgian sporting bikes had silver painted fork ends and rear stays. They used silver paint rather than chrome plating."

Well, I can back that up with one of my own bikes, called "THE DURA", from Belgium, 1970's.

It's not a cheap bike though, all Nuovo Record (exc. brakes) and Reynolds DB throughout.

I've never even heard of another one of these, so I'm taking a photo right now:




BTW, the name DURA refers to an export product mined from a region in Belgium.
It's a type of dark-colored marble iir, so perhaps matches this bike's color?
Looked through this thread and perhaps my Kahan is a Dura?
Same painted "chrome" ends and a "D" in the headlug.
big chainring is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 11:07 PM
  #118  
s70rguy
presto, pronto, prego!
 
s70rguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hua Hin Thailand
Posts: 545

Bikes: Dave Lloyd custom, Brands SLX, Visser Vainqueur, XACD ti custom, Hewitt Scandium, Presto 1972, and more ...

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Roni Solomon View Post
I picked this up as a frame over a year ago from a dealer in Poland. I believe it is one of the frames built by Eddy Martens (Martelly) for U. Scanini. I just finished building it up today and took it for a ride, so very nice. It has internal routing, Silva dropouts and the signature crimped SLX tubing seen on other U. Scanini and Martelli frames. I think the paint is a bit garish, but it is growing on me.


Some 2 years ago I posted about my own Scanini:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=scanini

Since then I have some more info, and had two more Scanini frames pass through my hands. I'll post more info later, but can start with noting that the more expensive frames (like my Master) were made in italy (I try to remember by who, think it was Torpado), the cheaper ones were made in Belgium, at least some by Martens. Check the thread of the bb shell, and its easy to find out.
s70rguy is offline  
Old 09-29-12, 11:35 PM
  #119  
s70rguy
presto, pronto, prego!
 
s70rguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hua Hin Thailand
Posts: 545

Bikes: Dave Lloyd custom, Brands SLX, Visser Vainqueur, XACD ti custom, Hewitt Scandium, Presto 1972, and more ...

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts





The brand U. Scanini was created in 1987, by a Belgian businessman, who wanted to have some association in the name with the popular Italian brands, and on the other hand with (in the early 90s) ever more popular USA brands. As said frames were made in Italy (Zullo) and in Belgium, and also in France (Gabriel Hauptmann). In Belgium they crimped the tubes themselves ... with a simple machine fabricated by the frame builder I believe.
Tubing could be Oria, Columbus Thron and others. The info I got from the owner of the Scanini is not always fully compatible with the frames i see and have had, so there's still guesswork involved.

Two more Scanini frames I have had, the first one made in Italy, the second in Belgium.

The tubing of the second one is crimped too, but a bit different and more sloppy. Of the first one its probably Oria Stella tubing, which looks a bit like Gilco.
My own Scanini Master is very much a copy of a Colnago Master Olympic, down to the airbrushed paintjob. Gruppo is Sachs New Success, it seems to have belonged to an amateur team. Its a very fine bike.
s70rguy is offline  
Old 09-30-12, 09:23 AM
  #120  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Looked through this thread and perhaps my Kahan is a Dura?
Same painted "chrome" ends and a "D" in the headlug.
D-shaped cutouts? I've been wondering about these:



Could very well be Belgian ...
non-fixie is offline  
Old 10-01-12, 10:57 AM
  #121  
Roni Solomon
Junior Member
 
Roni Solomon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16

Bikes: Atala, Cannondale, Cilo, Colian, Concorde, D'Arienzo, Don Walker, Georama, Lighthouse, Marnati, Quintana Roo, Recherche, Stowe, Tommasini, Uno Pista, U. Scanini, Viner

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the info! I actually came across your thread when I first received the frame and started researching the brand. Mine has an English BB, between that and the crimped SLX tubing, I am lead to believe that it is Belgian made frame by Martens/Martelly.
Roni Solomon is offline  
Old 10-01-12, 11:52 AM
  #122  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Originally Posted by Roni Solomon View Post
Thanks for the info! I actually came across your thread when I first received the frame and started researching the brand. Mine has an English BB, between that and the crimped SLX tubing, I am lead to believe that it is Belgian made frame by Martens/Martelly.
We are happy to have been of service!
non-fixie is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 05:02 PM
  #123  
Fourthgrace
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 87

Bikes: Tommasini Tecno EL OS, Pinarello Banesto Team Bike Oria ML45, Stephen Roche Cork EL OS Bio-Racer, Le Monde Chambery, Grandis Campione del Monde, Grandis Superleggera, Joe Waugh 753, Rourke MODUCEL 753

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts



Surprised nobody has posted a Bio Racer Frame/Bike. I believe these were produced by the Belgian company which introduced the means to identify optimal riding position and latterly high-tech clothes. If other Forum users have some further info that would be much appreciated.

I bought this frame NOS from a dealer in France via eBay.It's top-end Columbus EL OS, and with EL Forks. Although painted with Stephen Roche's initials, signature and "Cork" model name (legendary Irish rider, father of TDF Nicolas Roche) , the charcteristic colour scheme is identical to Bio Racer badged frames made from other exoctic steel sets including Columbus Genius from the same era. The BB is Italian threaded so it is possible that these frames were made by Italian artisans and then painted to order. I would date the frame between 1993-1996, which is post Stephen's pro career and therefore perhaps this frame was either built for him/ as a bike for his bike camp business/ or when he was looking to launch his own brand of bikes (which he did- but they are quite different in regards badging design). The clue to its Bio Racer origins initially came from the branded chain protector.

I came across this ad for bike painters placed in 2000 for Bio Racer:

"Brit bike painters are wanted by Bio-racer of Belgium. High-end painters only: gas pipe sprayers need not apply.

Bio-racer of Tessenderlo near Brussels believe British high-end bike painters are pretty special, and want some to do contract painting of branded frames.

Relocation expenses will be paid. Everybody at Bio-racer speaks English so theres no language barrier.

The painter search is being handled in the UK by Steve Fenton, who, since parting with Concept, has created the grandly titled European Cycle Development Agency."

Anyway, regardless of its history (brownie points for anyone who can enlighten on connection between "Cork" and Roche), it makes for a great ride, built up with Ultegra SL groupset and Dura Ace STis. I have subsequently changed the stem to a Cinell Art Grammo stem to match the frame colour fades and it looks the business.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg
P1040901b.jpg (92.2 KB, 254 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040893.jpg (102.5 KB, 250 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040889.jpg (99.5 KB, 252 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040886b.jpg (101.6 KB, 261 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040887.jpg (100.6 KB, 259 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040898b.jpg (102.0 KB, 254 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040920b.jpg (90.3 KB, 259 views)
File Type: jpg
P1040918.jpg (93.5 KB, 251 views)

Last edited by Fourthgrace; 10-03-12 at 03:25 PM. Reason: Minor factual correction
Fourthgrace is offline  
Old 10-04-12, 04:06 PM
  #124  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
Thread Starter
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 7,948

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 203 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1130 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 84 Posts
Somehow the Bio-racer brand never appealed to me. Probably because of the name, and their ads from the 90's weren't very attractive either. But I have to admit this machine looks impressive. Thanks for posting it!
non-fixie is offline  
Old 10-08-12, 05:42 AM
  #125  
Munny
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Belgium, Bicycle country
Posts: 226

Bikes: 50 ? More?

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
At the time (end of eighties - begining of nineties), I limited myself to some of the Bio-Racer clothes.
I vaguely remember strange colours and equipment that were quite expensive.
I might still have some period catalogs.

Am I wrong or at the time, Stephen was also living in Belgium like Lemond ?
Munny is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.