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Old 09-26-11, 11:00 AM
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Chesini X Uno: how rare are these things?

Hey guys. For a while now I've been attracted to the old classic Chesini X Uno, in large part because of the ornate paintjobs and attention to detail. I was wondering, how often does one of these frames show up? And what are the best places to scout? I'm in California and I somehow don't picture there being a lot around. I check ebay every once and a while and don't see any. Any idea on their value (for the frame alone)



BTW I'd be looking for someone in about 57-58cm range.
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There used to be a guy down towards Santa Barbara that was selling these on eBay.... BannanaBrain, I think. He disappeared about 2 years or so ago, after selling off a whole bunch of NOS Chesini frame sets. IIRC, they were selling in the $300 range, and were as-new.


A friend of mine bought a frame from him, and I built it up. Gorgeous bike.



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There is a good-looking one on Velospace that has all the pantographed parts I so love.
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Here's one belonging to "steel-is-real" on flickr. Incredibly beautiful:


I'm looking into these because a frame from another maker I had been eyeballing on ebay for a while and was ready to purchase ended ahead-of-schedule to Buy it Now. Really disappointed! I just hope within the next month or so I can find another great frame to start a project with. I'm looking for a late 80s Italian frame to build up with some NOS Campagnolo C Record components I have.
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They're nice frames. Chesini is a bike shop in Verona, Italy, that basically established its own bike brand, making a range of frames. The shop is still there.
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I found an NOS X-Uno on the'bay back in 2009 for around $350 (frame and fork), it's still in unbuilt condition and ready for when I have my belongings in one spot again. I thought the build quality was excellent, if on the heavy side. My example had a custom paint job by a Belgian racer-turned painter, Frank Hoste.


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Old 09-26-11, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gridplan View Post
There is a good-looking one on Velospace that has all the pantographed parts I so love.
Hm. Kinda plain lookin', innit?

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poprad - nice frame. Hope you have fun building it up!

For me personally, I'm keeping an eye out for a late 80s X Uno frame with one of those great fade paintjobs that were so popular back then. I am very fond of that era of design, as over-the-top as it was.
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Hey guys,
Other than ebay, what would be the best place to look for something like this? I know CL might work for certain bikes but I don't picture a Chesini popping up there.
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I'm late to this thread but I'll chime in anyways. That's my red X-Uno up above that BBM put together for me. After poprad announced the find of his beautiful frame shown above I bought the red one (also painted by Frank Hoste) which was also listed by the same seller. My understanding is that that seller's routine was/is to go to Europe occasionally and buy a container full of frames/parts/accessories, and then sell them here in the US. Not sure if he is doing that anymore, but I believe he operates a bike shop in Santa Barbara, CA.
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My understanding is that that seller's routine was/is to go to Europe occasionally and buy a container full of frames/parts/accessories, and then sell them here in the US. Not sure if he is doing that anymore, but I believe he operates a bike shop in Santa Barbara, CA.
That was/is Baron Corpuz, he and his Belgian wife used to live in Belgium and sold thru eBay all the cheap treasures they found scouring the old stock of Europe. Then they shipped it all over to SoCal and have alternated between Santa Barbara and Santa Paula (or thereabouts). Seem to be settled for now on State Street (high rent 'hood). My experience with them has been spotty (and I'm not alone in this) but they would eventually come out of hibernation and fill my order even sometimes adding some extras to make up for the long wait.
My advice: go there and deal in person, nice looking shop, nice location...take a road trip.
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sorry to hijack this thread but can someone tell me if there are some parts that you can identify a chesini frame from? i have received a oversprayed frame with no number or sign or pantho at all but under the paint there has been some very interesting paint job which looks a lot like the one in the first picture. unfortunately there is no sticker or info at all on the frame.
any idea?
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Originally Posted by philie View Post
sorry to hijack this thread but can someone tell me if there are some parts that you can identify a chesini frame from? i have received a oversprayed frame with no number or sign or pantho at all but under the paint there has been some very interesting paint job which looks a lot like the one in the first picture. unfortunately there is no sticker or info at all on the frame.
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post some pics of the frame. There were many Italian makes that used the sprayed-thru-lace fade paint back in the '80s, Rossin probably the most, but plenty of other makes, too. Most of those had at least something panto'd on their better frames.
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I would love a Chesini Innovation...that is all I have to say on Chesini.
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Originally Posted by Streetwaves View Post
Hey guys. For a while now I've been attracted to the old classic Chesini X Uno, in large part because of the ornate paintjobs and attention to detail. I was wondering, how often does one of these frames show up? And what are the best places to scout? I'm in California and I somehow don't picture there being a lot around. I check ebay every once and a while and don't see any. Any idea on their value (for the frame alone)



BTW I'd be looking for someone in about 57-58cm range.
Just as a data point. Like you, I too became fully enamored of Chesini bikes when I first became aware of them in the early 80's when visiting relatives in Europe. I especially liked the internal brake and gear cables, the engraved head tube and the wide range of pantographed parts... Back at the time, as a starving college student, I was not able to afford one. I simply filed the bike away in my mind, thinking that the day will come that I finally get mine. About 25 years later I did finally get one in my size (57 cm), and precisely a X uno with the candy-cane striped finish seen in the photos above (the second one). When I purchased it, it was fitted with with mostly C-Record. Needless to say I was stoked and in a dream world when I received the bike ,and immediately set about building it up.

It is at this point that my bubble was burst... I pride myself in having always been able to always find a solution to all assembly or build difficulties, So I guess you can say that I don't scare easily. I have built up many complicated bikes over my life, including such things as triplets and tricycles, where you are always required to come up with your own solutions or jury-rig something, but I have NEVER been left with such disappointment as when building up my Chesini. My first surprise was installing the rear brake cable which requires one to have a long skinny finger with grreat dexterity. In fact there is no provision to guide the brake cable through the top tube, there are simply two openings that are just a bit larger than the brake cable itself. To thread the cable in the front is child's play, but to get it to exit in the back is extremely piddly and unnecessarily difficult. The sole way to do it is to remove the seatpost and stick you finger into the top tube via the seat tube (BTW, I do have 4 other bikes in my garage at this moment that have internal rear brake cables and none presented even the slightest difficulty in assembly). Then I moved on to the set up of the derailleurs, again with internal cable routing. Once more this type of set-up was not unknown to me as I had previously built up a number of other frames using the same lay-out. You need to use the special BB sleeve that also works as both cable guide and dust cover. Generally you can use a teflon cable housing liner to help you guide the cables through, but here the exit holes are too small to allow the liner through. Likewise the BB insert is sized in such a way that you must insert it fully in the BB before you attempt to feed the cables through... In the end, I got the bike built but the aggravation was so unexpected and great that I was totally soured on the bike. To add insult to injury, I then wasn't even terribly enthusiastic about the ride quality either. So after more than 25 years of dreaming and searching for this "grail" bike, I ended up flipping it in less than 3 months. It may be of interest that the fellow in Britain who bought it from me, for what I felt was a solid price, then sold it himself about 2 months after he received it. Then another 3 months later it was again for sale... Luckily, it would appear that nobody lost any major money on the transaction.

In summary, I would define them as beautiful pieces of art that are perhaps not the best to actually be used all too much.

PS: the biggest export markets for Chesini were Germany and the Netherlands. Very few made it to the US.
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The sole way to do it is to remove the seatpost and stick you finger into the top tube via the seat tube
Did you try the thread & vacuum cleaner technique?
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Did you try the thread & vacuum cleaner technique?
When the holes are that small, the vacuum cleaner never seems to work in my experience.
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Must be one of the better buys in vintage italian. most other steeds go for twice that amount. must have imported alot!
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Back in October Chesini had this in their shop in Verona:
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IMG_6683 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

Others might be able to judge the size from looking at the photo. I don't know if it's for sale or not but you could call the shop and ask to speak to Andrea. He speaks some English.
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Citoyen,

My Casati was like that. I wonder if Casati built their frames? Montrose bikes here in socal use to carry a few Chesini when I was racing back in the old days. That's where my Casati came from.
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Chesini is still in business and making all sorts of bikes





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have found one?
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chesini x uno

Hi. I have made a recent purchase of a Chesini Frame. Was told by seller it was repainted and unlikey in its original color.
Any one has any idea how the frames are dated?

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If that is an SLX decal, it coupled with the escargot type shifter bosses would place it right around '86/87 I believe. Pretty frame even if it is a repaint.
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