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How overpriced is this GORGEOUS Bottecchia???

Old 09-28-11, 11:04 AM
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How overpriced is this GORGEOUS Bottecchia???

I don't know much about Bottecchias. Can they be worth this much? Or even close to this much? I know, I know, they're worth whatever someone is willing to pay! But seriously, can they be worth this much? It's not even SLX tubing. Thanks for any input. Absolutely stunning bike! Although the pictures don't show a whole lot of the frame!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/180730536786...84.m1438.l2649
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Old 09-28-11, 11:08 AM
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Take my word for it, you never know how much a bike will sell for until it is sold. There have been many times I have been astonished at how much a bicycle of mine will fetch.

The price might seem high to the OP and me, but to someone who had little idea of how to find one, the price might be just right. And, for what it is worth, that price might seem cheap a couple of years from now.
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That's a sweet bike - not $2,100 worth of sweet but you never know.
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I could not begin to say. How overpriced is this one ?



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I remember those from when they were new; very nice looking bike.

Many times things go for what I don't think they're worth on ebay, so who knows...

Only takes one person who really wants it.
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$2100.00 is probably what is cost when new.
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It's SL tubing which means it's top of the line with a Campy Super Record group and Campy clincher rims. Correct me if I'm wrong but could you build that exact bike for much less?
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
It's SL tubing which means it's top of the line with a Campy Super Record group and Campy clincher rims. Correct me if I'm wrong but could you build that exact bike for much less?

Jim - even assuming paying part out prices on ebay, I think you could. A solid $600-700 less. If the parts/wheels are worth $1000 sourced individually, and that's the most expensive way to do it...is that frame worth $1100? Heck - a De Rosa SL frame probably wouldn't sell @ 1100.

I also think your question is misleading - it's ALWAYS more expensive to do it bought separately. I think the issue is more along the lines of...can you get a bike of similar, or higher marquee for a lot less? I think the answer is a resounding yes.
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I'm with Aaron, at the $2,100 price point, I would pick something else. Think chrome, think Paramount, think one of Kurt's bikes......

Regardless, $2100 is way, way, over my self imposed price limit.

I do not have anything near $2100 into my entire thrifty bill keeper fleet. $2100 for just one bike, just not going to happen here in thriftyland.

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Seems high to me, but time will tell. I imagine he'll have a much better chance of getting that price if potential bidders don't read this thread.
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It's an asking price with a make an offer option...I really don't think the seller is expecting 2100...he's probably fishing.

I've tossed things out with asking prices I thought were HIGHHHHHH utilizing the make an offer feature and they ended up getting hit with BIN. It's a pleasant surprise and sometimes you get lucky. Other times I've tossed out things I thought would be gone in an instant and they sat.
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The highest price I see for a Bottecchia in ebay completed auctions is about $800 for a nice example.
I'd say about $1200 for the one the OP posted about.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
It's an asking price with a make an offer option...I really don't think the seller is expecting 2100...he's probably fishing.

I've tossed things out with asking prices I thought were HIGHHHHHH utilizing the make an offer feature and they ended up getting hit with BIN. It's a pleasant surprise and sometimes you get lucky. Other times I've tossed out things I thought would be gone in an instant and they sat.
Agree with both comments. However, in this case, the 30 day auction that he specified usually indicates a willingness to be patient and wait it out until the perfect buyer comes strolling along and is willing to pay close to the asking price. Psychologically, for the buyer, the long term auction seems to reduce the likelihood or expectation that a low offer might be accepted or even countered for that matter.
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Originally Posted by lotek View Post
The highest price I see for a Bottecchia in ebay completed auctions is about $800 for a nice example.
I'd say about $1200 for the one the OP posted about.
I think you should email the seller, and then 15 minutes later I'll make my offer
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At $2100, I've got one word for you: "DeRosa".

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May be a misprint;

https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/bik/2583865145.html
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Originally Posted by lotek View Post
The highest price I see for a Bottecchia in ebay completed auctions is about $800 for a nice example.
I'd say about $1200 for the one the OP posted about.
https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/bik/2583865145.html

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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
It's SL tubing which means it's top of the line with a Campy Super Record group and Campy clincher rims. Correct me if I'm wrong but could you build that exact bike for much less?
Exact bike? Dunno. Better bike? I've done it for a lot less. My Palo Alto, Cinelli Super Corsa, Pogliaghi, and De Rosa Primato were all built with modern 10 speed Campagnolo drivetrains for ~$1000 less than that bike.

also - take a look at his shipping.... $175. Anyone that pays $2100 PLUS $175 shipping for that bike just isn't thinking.
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Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
Anyone that pays $2100 PLUS $175 shipping for that bike just isn't thinking.
Couldn't have said it better. Leave it to BBM to cut through the BS and get right to the point! You must be taking lessons from OFG!
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Bottecchia's are more rare than chrome Paramounts and I've seen many more De Rosa's around these parts than chrome lugged Bottecchias. I'm not saying its worth $2100 but its probably not to far off the mark. IMHO that bike is more rare and just as nice as a De Rosa and its a 54cm which is at the peak of bell curve size chart. Nice bike command top prices. I'm not knocking De Rosa's, I own a Professional with C Record but we need to remember that just because we paid less for a similar bike it doesnt mean all of them are worth that price. If I paid $50 for my De rosa does that mean all De Rosa's are worth a max of $50? Of course not.

If anyone thinks that bike in only worth $1200 I'd say one hasn't built a SR bike lately.
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Only a fool would pass up that bike for $1200/obo
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as much as his px10:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Peugeot...2#ht_780wt_952
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Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
Exact bike? Dunno. Better bike? I've done it for a lot less. My Palo Alto, Cinelli Super Corsa, Pogliaghi, and De Rosa Primato were all built with modern 10 speed Campagnolo drivetrains for ~$1000 less than that bike.

also - take a look at his shipping.... $175. Anyone that pays $2100 PLUS $175 shipping for that bike just isn't thinking.
Wheels too? That's impressive.
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 View Post
I'll agree the PX10 is way over priced. Thats a $400-700 bike all day long.
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My Olmo with Columbus SL tubing, 8-speed Campy Ergos was €248 all in. The Felt 40mm deep wheelset I had already, it was €149 I think, new. Seems crazy to spend thousands when patience and a little luck can get you as much for less.

Since this picture was taken the bike has been finished - first ride today in fact, and very nice it was too.

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