The Lenton Lives!!!
After six months (plus) of on-again/off-again work, I finally got the Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix finished!
Before: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ighLenton1.jpg After: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...hLenton2-1.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ighLenton3.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ighLenton7.jpg Gave it an 11 mile debugging run this afternoon and, happily, everything works. Of course there the occasional noise from the mudguard scraping the tyre. Which I can't duplicate on the stand. The mudguards are in rather close, so I'll get an occasional momentary rub when I hit a bump in the road. It's definitely relaxed geometry (by today's standards). Seems to be comfortable, but I'll know more about that during the coming weekend, once I get 50-100 miles on the bike. One thing's for sure, it's no climber. Chainwheel is 46-48, freewheel is 14-16-18-20. Which means I'm running 62-92 gear inches. And have yet to get past the 46-16 combination. Yes, the wheels are wrong. I got the bike from Poguemahone minus wheels so in the interim I've come up with a rear wheel that is period correct (Sturmy-Archer hub on German steel rim), and a front wheel that is totally wrong (Normandy hub on Mavic alloy rim) just to get the bike on the road. Hopefully I'll at least come up with a matching front wheel, if not the catalog correct pair sometime in the future. The derailleurs are fascinating, and were my biggest challenge since I've never worked on something this early previously (back in my days at the shop, I saw one Schwinn Continental with a rod front derailleur, never saw a Cyclo Benelux Mk. 7 before, except in pictures). http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ighLenton5.jpg Much to my pleasure, the rear works a lot better than I expected it to. Admittedly though, this is a touring, not a racing, derailleur. You make your shifts gently and deliberately with a bit of foresight. And having it work in reverse from modern convention makes a lot of sense. Need the lowest gear possible? Just shove the lever forward, all the way. Done. I found that setting up the side to side travel is rather critical, starting with whether or not you use a spacer on the freewheel. The derailleur's travel is that limited. There's no way you'll ever get it to work with a fifth cog. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ighLenton4.jpg The front, I'm still attempting to figure out. It works fine on the bench (you don't hesitate when changing freewheels, or you'll get the chain stuck between the two rows of teeth - guess how I know?) but I'm going to need a few days getting comfortable with the frame to become efficient with it. With a two tooth difference in the chainwheels, though, I'm definitely not going to be shifting as often as on a more modern (say, 70's) bike. As to vintage: For the moment, I'm guessing it's a '61. The serial number is high in the range for the 58-62 model years, and so far every Lenton GP I've run across that's claiming to be a '58 is gold in color. If anyone has any input on dating the machine, I'd be very interested in hearing your ideas OK, my skills are feeling sharp. Now, it's time to start studying and looking for my next project . . . . . . . . . something pre-WWI. :eek: |
Congratulations, that looks fantastic! Looking at the first picture, I can't believe how much better you got the original decals to look. That last picture is 100% perfect, really wonderful.
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I'm stunned by the decals as well. Great job with the restoration!
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Gorgeous bike Sykerocker!
Those Lentons are just the epitome of British C&V - and you dressed yours so well. -I would recommend one small compromise to period correctness though, and suggest you look for a rear rim to match the front, rather than the other way around. PS- What is that black thing perched o top of the bars, just to the left of the stem? |
Originally Posted by auchencrow
(Post 13297463)
Gorgeous bike Sykerocker!
Those Lentons are just the epitome of British C&V - and you dressed yours so well. -I would recommend one small compromise to period correctness though, and suggest you look for a rear rim to match the front, rather than the other way around. PS- What is that black thing perched o top of the bars, just to the left of the stem? That black thing is my cyclometer. Mandatory equipment on every bike I'm riding from the moment it first leaves the shop. I'm one of those insane, pedantic, mileage junkies. Cyclometers and Excel are my friends. And, as of today, I've got 4380.48 miles in for the year. Unfortunately, I'm probably not going to meet last year's 5800+, as knocking out three more 500 mile months is kinda slim given temperatures, darkness, and caring for my wife. The madness extends to the point that the Lenton will put down the minimum 210 miles before the end of the year. Or else. |
Nice work there man, I have that same chainring combo on a Carlton Corsair. Pretty useless. It's all about making the shift without losing "much" speed. Any British pre WW1 will be hubgear or fixed. Pretty easy to ride those compared to jockey sticks. Dunlop special lightweights (rims) are what you need. 'like everyone else.
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Syke -You're purist enough to run a stippled steel rim on the rear and then you mount a COMPUTER on the front?! :eek:
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Originally Posted by sykerocker
(Post 13297283)
Yes, the wheels are wrong. I got the bike from Poguemahone minus wheels so in the interim I've come up with a rear wheel that is period correct (Sturmy-Archer hub on German steel rim), and a front wheel that is totally wrong (Normandy hub on Mavic alloy rim) just to get the bike on the road. Hopefully I'll at least come up with a matching front wheel, if not the catalog correct pair sometime in the future.
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
(Post 13297540)
Syke -You're purist enough to run a stippled steel rim on the rear and then you mount a COMPUTER on the front?! :eek:
Oh anyway, beautiful bike and beautiful job with it! |
Beautiful bike. I especially like the heron chainwheel and fork mounted lamp bracket.
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Fantastic !!
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl
(Post 13297596)
What would a "correct" front hub be? Not a steel Resilon, perchance?
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
(Post 13297540)
Syke -You're purist enough to run a stippled steel rim on the rear and then you mount a COMPUTER on the front?! :eek:
Right now, I've got one of the early Sachs-Huret belt drive mechanical jobs, trying to figure out how to take it apart without destroying it, so I can refurbish it and install it on one of my 80's bikes. By the way, now that the bike is done, this weekend will be spent working on a couple of pairs of Goodwill-found corduroys, turning them into proper English plus-fours. Since I'm an old re-enactor, one does not go out dressed improperly for the kit they are riding. |
-holiday76, Zaphod Beeblebrox turned me onto an excellent iphone app called Cyclemeter. It does everything you would want and more. The problem is the GPS sucks the battery dry. I'm working on building an external battery pack. I suppose that makes the whole thing cumbersome, but it's cheap if you already have an iphone. The app costs about $4, and I get frequent free updates.
sykerocker, you're a better man than I am, keeping this bike period correct. |
English steel is just so elegant and you did a very nice job on that machine. VERY nice. :)
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Late note before calling it a night - doing some referring to Sheldon Brown for the last entry, I discovered something I'd missed in the past: For 1961, the Lenton went to a cable operated front derailleur. Which means, we're now talking '58-60 - and the serial number is still on the high end.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 13297990)
-holiday76, Zaphod Beeblebrox turned me onto an excellent iphone app called Cyclemeter. It does everything you would want and more. The problem is the GPS sucks the battery dry. I'm working on building an external battery pack. I suppose that makes the whole thing cumbersome, but it's cheap if you already have an iphone. The app costs about $4, and I get frequent free updates.
sykerocker, you're a better man than I am, keeping this bike period correct. That app sounds interesting. However, my priority right now is to find an app that'll make a cell phone (I don't care which format) act like a Palm Zire. Which I'm still addicted to. |
Don't get me started on Palm. I gave up my Palm very reluctantly. They made wonderful machines, way ahead of their time. But those people ruined their own company. Time to say goodbye.
I'm not generally a purist. The only bike I keep original is my old Engish 3-speed, and that takes no effort. I figure there's no crime in replacing wear items with modern stuff. And then I slide down the slippery slope and half or most of my bike becomes modern. But hey, I like it that way. |
Beautiful bicycle !
The front rod shifter is not that hard to use... it is much like reaching down for a water bottle and if it is like the Simplex on my '57 Peugeot it needs a light touch but then self trims. My Peugeot also runs a 4 speed block and a tighter double and is a joy to ride. |
Love love love it. I use that front shifter on mine and just jam it back and forth (I'd like to say "with a flourish" but not really possible in that position!) I'm running a modern-er geartrain with a ramped 48-34 up front so it's probably a much easier shift than the 48-46.
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Looks great!
The correct hubs are, as already mentioned, BHC Racelite. They are large flange aluminum hubs that look very much like the Normandies of the same period. 32H front, 40H rear, with lovely domed nuts. The correct rims are Dunlop Special Lightweight 27". They are hard to find. What brakes do you have on there? |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 13299537)
Looks great!
The correct hubs are, as already mentioned, BHC Racelite. They are large flange aluminum hubs that look very much like the Normandies of the same period. 32H front, 40H rear, with lovely domed nuts. The correct rims are Dunlop Special Lightweight 27". They are hard to find. What brakes do you have on there? If period correctness is not that important Normandy hubs and decent alloy 27 inch rims are easy enough to find and despite their lower end status those Normandy hubs sure deliver some great service. Would think that close half step and gear set up will provide for some pretty enjoyable riding once one gets used to the "suicide" shifter which will set this bike apart from most others. |
Right, any Dunlop rims at all will be tricky. Special Lightweights are chromed steel, and not hooked; nice rims, but not even I would pretend they have any advantage; I mention them only because they are the correct original rim for this bike.
I would go for Campy Nuovo Tipo large flange hubs before Normandy, unless you can find the old Normandy hubs with eight round (rather than six kidney shaped) windows in the flange. The freewheel on my Lenton Grand Prix was pretty worn out, so I used a 14-28 five speed freewheel. As Syke mentioned, there's no way to use all five cogs, so I set it so it wouldn't go into the 14. I found the 16-28 range much more useful than the 14-20 range. They Cyclo derailleur is not supposed to work with a 28T cog, but I had no trouble with that. |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 13299736)
Right, any Dunlop rims at all will be tricky. Special Lightweights are chromed steel, and not hooked; nice rims, but not even I would pretend they have any advantage; I mention them only because they are the correct original rim for this bike.
I would go for Campy Nuovo Tipo large flange hubs before Normandy, unless you can find the old Normandy hubs with eight round (rather than six kidney shaped) windows in the flange. The freewheel on my Lenton Grand Prix was pretty worn out, so I used a 14-28 five speed freewheel. As Syke mentioned, there's no way to use all five cogs, so I set it so it wouldn't go into the 14. I found the 16-28 range much more useful than the 14-20 range. They Cyclo derailleur is not supposed to work with a 28T cog, but I had no trouble with that. The brakes are the original (I think) Weinmann sidepulls. As I received the bike, it had wrong wheels, was missing the rear derailleur, but otherwise appeared to be complete with the original remaining components. |
Wow. Nice work!
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