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Old 10-06-11, 11:21 AM
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Viscount... To part out or fix?

This Viscount frame has potential, but has it's issue. The seat tube is split at the top (Not my doing). I was thinking I could cut the clamp tabs off and use a slip on seat tube clamp. I'd sell it as a frameset if I "repair" it. Is it even worth it? It does have the original Death Fork. Maybe people could use the parts... What would you do?

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I can't comment on whether to part it out or not. But, if you do, I could be interested in the seat post bolt and pedal cap
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Is it even worth it? It does have the original Death Fork. Maybe people could use the parts... What would you do?
Personally, I'd strip it and throw the frame in the recycling bin. With the two extra holes in the seat tube, it would be a kludge at best, dangerous at worst. The parts have value, just as parts (eg brakes), or as replacement parts for missing or worn out items (eg BB, pedal dust caps, etc).
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I think I can fix it.
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Give it a shot, ride it for a while to see how it does, then pass it on if it's ok.
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I agree, it's a parts bike.

I'd be interested in the skewers and might be interested in the death fork. Not that I want to use it, but just to keep with my Viscount
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The value on that bike is the original Lambert/Viscount parts - they weren't all that common when new, and they're certainly less common today. Viscount frames are interesting curiosities, not rare, yet not common; but the damage to this one cuts down the value. Death Forks are worthwhile as wall hangings - or - on a pristine original bike, to be ridden occasionally, all the time saying a few novenas while pedaling (yes, I overstate - slightly).

Part it. Sell the Viscount parts to someone who's bringing a nicer Viscount back to original condition.
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The frame is nearly worthless, in my opinion. For some reason, Viscounts are not much sought after and rarely sell for very much. That said, I do agree with others. Pitch the frame and horrible fork, then clean and sell the components. You will do much better that way than trying to repair and then sell a bicycle that few people want.

Again, just an opinion.
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Don't pitch the fork! They're very cool. I've got two, I kind of collect just the forks. Weird, huh?

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Why it is called the death fork?
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when you pitch the frame, let me know what dumpster it's in. that frame would make a sweet ss.
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Part it. Sell the Viscount parts to someone who's bringing a nicer Viscount back to original condition.

Know anyone in particular?



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Don't pitch the fork! They're very cool. I've got two, I kind of collect just the forks. Weird, huh?

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Send - fork - here!!
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I would toss it.
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Send - fork - here!!
If you can find me a bike bauble or something that will collect as much dust it's yours!

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The value on that bike is the original Lambert/Viscount parts - they weren't all that common when new, and they're certainly less common today. Viscount frames are interesting curiosities, not rare, yet not common; but the damage to this one cuts down the value. Death Forks are worthwhile as wall hangings - or - on a pristine original bike, to be ridden occasionally, all the time saying a few novenas while pedaling (yes, I overstate - slightly).

Part it. Sell the Viscount parts to someone who's bringing a nicer Viscount back to original condition.
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Don't pitch the fork! They're very cool. I've got two, I kind of collect just the forks. Weird, huh?

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when you pitch the frame, let me know what dumpster it's in. that frame would make a sweet ss.
The tube wall on these frames is very thin at the seat cluster, kind of scary thin. It would be risky if there was a lug there... but I don't think I would tempt fate on that one.
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If you can find me a bike bauble or something that will collect as much dust it's yours!

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What the heck is a bike bauble?? I like saying it, but I am curious.
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Send - fork - here!!
Beautiful bike. Although I've already got too many (managed to tighten up the garage wall racks a bit, now have twelve hanging orderly, one on the floor), I'd love to find one of those with the Lambert namplate (Viscount has little to no meaning for me) in that condition. With all the original parts (or at least as many as can still be made to work).
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What the heck is a bike bauble?? I like saying it, but I am curious.
You know, bike jewelry .. stuff you look at because it's pretty. I've got saddles like that, they just sit on a shelf like knick knacks.

Seriously, drop me a pm, I'm sick of dusting them off.

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Beautiful bike. Although I've already got too many (managed to tighten up the garage wall racks a bit, now have twelve hanging orderly, one on the floor), I'd love to find one of those with the Lambert namplate (Viscount has little to no meaning for me) in that condition. With all the original parts (or at least as many as can still be made to work).
Thank you. I can't believe how little love there is for these bikes... I bought mine on ebay without any competition for 70 dollars. I know that is high for a Viscount, but it's a darned nice bike if you ask me. The bottom bracket strikes fear into some but it's actually easy to find bearings and change them. The hubs are the coolest Viscount branded bit, followed closely by the crank and brake calipers.

I sold this one a month ago. It was nice but it was much less exciting to me, only because of the color and lack of Viscount parts left. I took me forever to sell it, in top condition for $175.
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I would toss it.
Say that again to my face, punk.

You need to get back up here. I'm struck with boredom too often. Lol.
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Oh, I guess I'm parting this mother out. You guys know what to do. Or maybe you don't. It's whatever.
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Thank you. I can't believe how little love there is for these bikes... I bought mine on ebay without any competition for 70 dollars. I know that is high for a Viscount, but it's a darned nice bike if you ask me. The bottom bracket strikes fear into some but it's actually easy to find bearings and change them. The hubs are the coolest Viscount branded bit, followed closely by the crank and brake calipers.

I sold this one a month ago. It was nice but it was much less exciting to me, only because of the color and lack of Viscount parts left. I took me forever to sell it, in top condition for $175.
My memory of them is not a good one, although after time it's leveled off a bit: Back in '73 I had taken a short leave of absence from the Schwinn/Raleigh shop to help a bike club buddy of mine open a Fuji/Atala dealership down the street (there was so much business at that time that there was no cutthroat competition between dealers). We got started off OK, in fact my ex-boss was sending us all the repair work he couldn't handle. Then my buddy decided to take on the Lambert franchise - after all, for 1973 it was the miracle bicycle.

Unfortunately, he had to pay for the bikes in advance (John didn't have much business sense, that demand didn't raise any screaming red flags in his mind). Before we got a bike, Lambert went bust. And the cash drain almost killed the shop right there - in the long run it did kill him off, because he was too financially weak to survive after the Bike Boom died. And the only Lambert's we ever saw were a few ridden at TOSRV, including one gold plated one. Once I had him going, and we found him another mechanic, I returned to the Schwinn/Raleigh shop as previously agreed.

Which is why I want a Lambert, not a Viscount. A kid came thru a swap meet about a year and a half ago with a battered gold frameset, finish and decals in bad condition. No parts. He wanted something like $200.00 for it, obviously I passed.
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If you're really parting it out I'd be very interested in the rear brake cable stop/release and the skewers.
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If you're really parting it out I'd be very interested in the rear brake cable stop/release and the skewers.
Do you need the brake hardware to be Viscount specific? PM me if you'd like.
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If anyone else is looking for Viscount parts, I still have a replacement chrome fork and a crankset/spindle. The spindle has tapered surfaces although I don't know if they are the same taper as generic spindles or not. You could probably buy some Phil cups and put this crankset on any bike but I can't guarantee that...
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