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Old 10-06-11, 09:45 PM
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It's Just Too Nice to get rid of!

I bought this at t-town from another member who moves amazing bikes like non one's business and was originally planning on flipping it...

I just can't do it...even with as many bikes as I have and as over stocked as my basement has become. I'll be trying to clean the chrome in the coming week and am looking forward to taking it for a spin after it's overhauled...

I believe it to be an 87', maybe an 88', based on the gruppo...someone clearly thought very highly of the frame given the parts. Columbus drops (same as the campy), which are interesting since it has Oria tubing. C-record, except pedals and hubs. Campy aluminum freewheel...which will obviously be replaced. Condition is good, so it was either a recent addition, or the bike was a garage queen.

I present - my new to me Montagner:



















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Cool paint!
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I'm not usually one for the fades, but it works on this one.
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super nice bike.....

don't think i've ever heard of this company, any background info?


too bad about the chrome on the front fork, it looks pretty pitted and stuff? maybe redip time?
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I had one of these Luigi Montagner bikes pass thru my hands several years ago. It was too big and I flipped it but was impressed with the quality. Not a brand you see in the US, but I did some research and learned there was a sponsored team that came to compete in Texas or Colorado and sold all their bikes before flying back to Italy...so there was a small inventory of them in TX or CO as a result. Enjoy it, I'm sure it's a good ride.
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Treat the fork with OA, and you will have a really special bike. No way I could let that one go either.
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I'm going to start with polish and see where that gets me...I've never done well with OA and chrome. It ends up a weird mottled color afterwards...worse than pitting. Milky. A redip is probably a good bit more money that I'm willing to spend.

I've read a few things about Montagner...one net rumor is that he was arrested for exporting drugs. I didn't find any source of confirmation. I first heard that from another member here who also was unable to confirm. He also built bikes for the Polish and Czek national teams...the decal commemorates the Czek team's world record.
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She's a beauty!

Italian Cycling Journal has a nice article about Oria tubing here: [LINK]. There's also a scan of part of a review from an old Bicycling issue with a bike very similar to the one you've got there. Worth checking out if you didn't already find it.

And our esteemed T-Mar had this to say: "Oria was an Italian tube manufacturers thar gained some prominence in the late 1980s, after Moser used their tubing on his world hour record frame. The tubing was found primarily on Italian bicycles. Like most manufacturers, they produced a range of tubing. If you know the tubeset name, I may be able to provide some specifics on the tubing, like weight and wall thicknesses, so that you can relate it to a comparable Columbus or Reynolds tubeset."
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Gaucho - thanks - I did find those links previously. This is the GM0.0 Oria tubing, their lightest tubeset which was considered their highest end/highest price tubing meant to compete with SLX/TSX and 753. It's externally ribbed...which was supposedly done to add stiffness. Bicycling magazine ran a review of it compared with several other Italians and named it the second stiffest to an early MAX bike in their test. Marketing mumbo jumbo, but still fun factoids.
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WOW, love the paint, reminds me of Colnago, flashy.
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The typical fade paintjob is horrible to look at as usual...sell the bike to me for.....uhmmmm....250 bucks and you never have to live with it anymore....
Quick! before you irreversably get stuck with it from blind bike love or something!

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Beautiful bike, and Campy delta brakes too, cracking find.
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This must be the mystery buy mentioned in the TTown thread. Yeah this is a keeper, especially if you got it for a song.
I remember the brand, seeing a few back in the Northeast. Pretty. The fade scheme looks good, but then again I'm an 80s guy.
Too bad it's missing the C-Record hubs, nearly a complete gruppo.
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Nice find Aaron.

That chrome will clean up nicely, I'd wager.

A local shop stocked these framesets, and one could have them built in good, better, best versions.

You'd see them raced by this Mpls. shop in our region, but I never followed the brand that closely to research it.

A friend had my Montagner hanging on a hook for ten+ years, until I bought it for my quickly growing teenager.

He liked the bicycle a great deal, and so did others, as I used it as a loaner bike for friends and family.

I recently sold my Luigi Montagner though.

Very nice finish, and hold on tight handling.

Bit of a handful on descents at speed.

A lot of bicycle for the money though.

I can't confirm the wild and zany rumors surrounding LM, but on the other hand, I haven't put any effort into it either.

Here's a pic of the one I sold.

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Originally Posted by WNG
This must be the mystery buy mentioned in the TTown thread. Yeah this is a keeper, especially if you got it for a song.
I remember the brand, seeing a few back in the Northeast. Pretty. The fade scheme looks good, but then again I'm an 80s guy.
Too bad it's missing the C-Record hubs, nearly a complete gruppo.
I could always snag a pair if I really want them...

I've never used the c-record hubs, but heard less than great things about them. I know the sheriff stars go for a MINT, but the freewheel would fund about half of a pair.

I'm an 80s kid as well...I had a pair of Jams and wore far too much Ocean Pacific. My father used to explain that the OP stood for over priced. Still...I never really got the whole fade paint thing.

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Wow, lovely bike. C-Record is so nice, definitely on the list for my next project.
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That's really pretty! I'm guessing the freewheel is a recent addition -- who'd type out a gear chart and tape it to the bars on a garage queen?

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I don't know... but who would throw that freewheel on a bike they planned to ride???
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Stunning find. I can't wait to see it cleaned up! I bet you'll be amazed at how much of that rust on the fork you can polish out.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
. . . too much Ocean Pacific.

Ha! I went to the University of Hawai'i. (AKA: Hula High.) We LIVED in OP stuff.


Great bike. I'd find it hard to part with, too. Major reason why I didn't go to T-town!

Thanks for the photos.
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Chorus RD. Congrats!
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Is it chorus? I have a tough time telling the difference.
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I don't recall who, but some BFer found a great deal recently on having a fork rechromed, like $50? Seems like it was in the midwest, like STL or nearby, maybe CV-6 or Azorch?

Edit/found: tugadude used St Louis Plating

And that seatstay paint issue - I'd say a good airbrush painter could hide that well enough - fade not being a "solid" color to have to match up.
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For $50 I'd do it!

I don't mind a little patina to be honest.
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Is that Chorus? Looks a lot like the RD on the Merckx I just bought which is otherwise full C-Record. I'll dig it out tonight and inspect closer to confirm...I was under the impression it was C-Record.
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