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I just saw a 531SL Holdsworth outside Goodwill...

Old 10-14-11, 01:58 PM
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I just saw a 531SL Holdsworth outside Goodwill...

...chained to a signpost. Half of it was bare metal (but not rusting!), and the other half a collection of flaking yellow paint over a set of Bocama long-point window lugs. Sticking out as would a diamond in a trash pile were all of its red-label 531SL decals, completely intact; holding down whatever paint survived underneath them.

Someone had strapped a Blackburn rack to the back, and it was wearing a strange collection of Shimano 105 brake levers and 600 calipers. My favorite bit is probably original to it - a drilled Stronglight 105 crankset.

And it was my size.

I dashed into Goodwill, checked for bikes, and found none - I returned to the front of the store to find the inevitable.

It was gone.

No Holdsworth.

No owner.

No nothing.



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It had to have been a dream. At least that's what I'm guessing.

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Bummer. As you now know, you should've camped out by the bike and made the owner an offer. It's certainly plausible you could run into him/her again.
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It's a trap!
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When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
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Originally Posted by DavidW56 View Post
When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
Ummm. No.

But I do leave handwritten notes.


It has actually worked for me in procuring a vintage steed.
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No Holdsworth.

No owner.

No nothing.
No picture

No happen

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Originally Posted by DavidW56 View Post
When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
That would pretty much ensure a pissed off owner who would never sell you the bike in a million years.

I've left a note a few times, though.
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Originally Posted by DavidW56 View Post
When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
Mental Note: Never park a nice bike in Metro Detroit, especially if I have to get somewhere on time afterwards.
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I see some very nice old steel chained up and rusting all the time around here. It's a bummer, but not much you can do.
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Originally Posted by DavidW56 View Post
When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
wtf? no
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Like you need another project bike...as I say to my kids, finish your firsts before you reach for seconds.....
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Like you need another project bike...as I say to my kids, finish your firsts before you reach for seconds.....
That's exactly why I risked the trip into Goodwill and back - I already have another Paramount coming.

I don't have time or resources to tackle a full refurb right now, and fate correlated this point.

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“If you love something let it go free.
If it doesn't come back, you never had it.
If it comes back, love it forever.”

Alternatively, if it doesn't come back,
hunt it down and kill it.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
“If you love something let it go free.
If it doesn't come back, you never had it.
If it comes back, love it forever.”
I can express that in two photos:





I let the Rudge linger on the market for six months before I bought it. I knew of the '72 Paramount for two years until fate brought the owner (a BF member) to my doorstep. The day I finished the build was the first time I ever saw it in one piece - I had known it as a pile of parts at an LBS all that time.

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No picture

No happen

Own smartphone?

No C&V.



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I. Love. That. Rudge. Holy moly, what a *beautirul* machine.... I'm sorry, but WOW. Long live the queen!
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I. Love. That. Rudge. Holy moly, what a *beautirul* machine.... I'm sorry, but WOW. Long live the queen!
Seeing that I can't comply with photos of the Holdsworth, here's another angle of the Rudge for you to enjoy:



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If I see it first......it's mine!!! Bent fork and all.....
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If I see it first......it's mine!!! Bent fork and all.....
Keep away from my Goodwill. Go fix that 'Cuda.

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Like you need another project bike...as I say to my kids, finish your firsts before you reach for seconds.....
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That's exactly why I risked the trip into Goodwill and back - I already have another Paramount coming.

I don't have time or resources to tackle a full refurb right now, and fate correlated this point.

-Kurt
The question in my mind would have been: Would Kurt paint a bike which has lost half of the original paint? When is the patina too much patina for the master of patina?

Ok, another Paramount. I wonder what it might be. Hmmmmm. There's the early '60s which got it all started, a couple of '70s chromies, a couple '80s Superior "Baby Paramounts," and that late '90s Match built "poser" Paramount.

Could the newbie be a mid 2000s CF Paramount? Finally a Waterford built Paramount? A '50s or earlier non derailleur Paramount? A track Paramount? What might it be?

Certainly not another run of the mill vanilla '70s P-13.
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The question in my mind would have been: Would Kurt paint a bike which has lost half of the original paint? When is the patina too much patina for the master of patina?
When it looks clean enough to look as if it just came straight out of the framebuilder's shop, yes - that's when I don't mind a repaint. This was bright yellow, mind you - not too hard to match, not really the C&V look.

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Certainly not another run of the mill vanilla '70s P-13.


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"Certainly not another run of the mill vanilla '70s P-13."



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When faced with situations like this, I might be tempted to slap my own lock on the bike, just to ensure the bike and the owner were there when I returned. C'mon, 'fess up! How many of you have done that, or at least let the thought cross your mind? More than will admit, I'll bet.
when I got a note on my bike asking to buy parts I took anything valuable off of it and replaced them with low-end parts. I would probably call the cops if someone locked my bike, it's a classic bike thief tactic.
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Seeing that I can't comply with photos of the Holdsworth....
This one might give some idea.....

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