ScottRyder 

Whoa, that is a beauty PG, wow, you don't see them in that condition very often. S-10s, they rock.

Scott

vettefrc2000

Nice!

bloud 

Great looking commuter! Love the detail around the lugs. Very nice...

BigBlue

More BB consternation for consideration by the cognicenti: Newb with 82 Royale attempting upgrades. See post #198. Removing stock Super Maxy crank, installing Super Mighty "Victory". Existing spindle is 142mm overall (including threaded ends) 122mm to ends of taper. This is leaving a 15mm gap from inside of chainring to BB locknut, and a 8mm gap on the non-drive side when I mount the Mighty cranks on the Maxy spindle. (see attached sketch showing Mighty cranks in red, on the Maxy spindle). I am worried about the structural integrity of such a gap, which puts the cranks far outboard on the spindle. A Japanese parts catalog sheet seems to suggest that an MW-70 (overall length 114mm), or an MT-70 (overall length 119mm) might be appropriate. The parts numbers for the bearings are the same, so it should be interchangeable, n'est ce pas? All advice and leads appreciated beyond measure.

Grim

I wasn't sure when I read this thread the other day but I though you were going to find you have or need a asymmetric BB. I had a reply typed but deleted it thinking it might cause undo concern. Should have posted it after all.

Install the cranks and measure to the chain stays from the back of the crank arm at the peddle threads. If both sides measure the same then you should be fine. If they don't measure the same do the math and see if if the mismatch is the same as the difference you measured at the bottom bracket. If so you need a common symmetric BB.

Couple links.
https://sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html

Measure the chain line as well. 42-45mm is a pretty safe number for most cranks. This link will explain how to measure..
https://sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html

From those tables and doing a little math you should be able to figure out what would be the measurements of the BB that will work correctly with the cranks. If its symmetric then that will be a very easy find. Most modern sealed BB's are symmetric. If its Asymmetric and what you have doesn't work that's going to be a bigger problem but that first link has some recommendations on using spacers to make it work.

BigBlue

Grimm,

REF: #204 and 205 above.

Thank you for the detailed advice. I have done all the measurements that you and the Sheldon site suggest. There is a consistent 4mm offset to the drive side: from center of seat tube to back of drive crank is 64mm, to back of off-side crank is 60mm. This is on the existing 122 mm spindle. This sets the chainline at the cranks at 50 mm from the seat tube, well beyond the recommended 42-45mm range.

In looking at the specs for the MW-70 spindle (114mm overall length) it would reduce the drive side offset by 4.5 mm and the off-side by 5 mm. There would be no interference issues at the cranks, and the chainline would be brought toward the center of the bike by 4.5 mm resulting in a 46 mm dimension from the seat tube to the center of the two chainrings, bringing it very close to the recommended dimension.

I am therefore looking for a bottom bracket unit: MW-70 spindle (overall length 114mm) , with cups, crank bolts and washers, english threads (1.37"x24tpi). If anyone has one for sale, or knows of a commercial source, I would be happy to hear from you.

Thanks again.

simmonsgc

Hey Fujinians, Fujites, or whatever the term is...I finally earned my entrance to the 'All Things FUJI' thread!

My wife spotted a 1980 Fuji Royale sitting on the porch of the local "Re-Store." I didn't even bother to take a 'before' pic (you know what dogs these look like after years of neglect), but it was mostly original and mostly there. I think someone had ridden it for years in a trainer, as it had earmarks of that---deeply indexed headset, swapped out corncob freewheel, and burned up rear wheel. But it was worth a chance at $50, she figured.

Anyway, had a ball re-building this as a day tripper from parts I had lying around: New housings/cable, new bar tape, SR stem/headset, nitto bars, shimano bar ends, $15 shimano 14-30 freewheel from the LBS, 36-46 biopace given to me by a local bike buddy (int the mountains here!), Eclipse rack/Cannondale bag from an old Trek I bought last year, original "Fuji" (Suntour) Vx derailleurs, and added paselas to the 27" Ukai wheels. Repacked and rebuilt everything else, including the Diacompe 610 centerpulls which work very well.

My wife and I went for a 4th of July shake down ride this AM, and fortunately there were no fireworks! Maybe my taste is just exceedingly pedestrian, but I think this is a nice bike. Handles well, rides well, accelerates well, and is comfortable. Gonna keep it for a spare and as a guest bike for friends who own mostly mountain bikes (so we can do day trips). Good stuff and a lot of fun. Thanks for looking!

cb400bill

I have had a few vintage Fuji bikes over the years and have found all of them to be njce riding bikes. Enjoy!

Drummerboy1975

My 2008 Fuji CCR 2.

auchencrow

You and your wife did a good deed simmonsgc, by rescuing that bike after what the PO did to it. (I really don't understand why people ride bikes on trainers.)

This tale has a happy ending thanks to you two. Very nice work.

rekmeyata

I have a 84 Fuji Club I bought used last year for $100 with only 5 miles on it, it still had the original tires with the nobs still on them. I haven't bought anything for it except tires, handlebar tape (I didn't like the original plastic tape so I replaced with yellow cork), and the Fizik saddle because the Fuji saddle sucked. I was having a problem with the Suntour ARX rear derailleur not shifting like the Suntours I'm use to, but after I rode it for about 250 miles it started to work a lot better.

https://classicfuji.com/1984_10_ClubFuji_Page.htm

simmonsgc

Thanks, Auchen. Very nice of you to say.

Just Joe

I am not sure what to do with my old fuji. I have a new bike and my old bike is to cool (91 titanium record century as seen in 1991 catalog) to just get rid of to someone who is unappreciative. It just takes up space. I think of it as the only one in America, but I don't know that for sure. Where should it go? It's been used and has some scratches, the seat leather is worn out, but hay it's all campy and works just fine. I thought about trying to bring it all back to its original glory, but figured I'd screw up the finish.

Phil_gretz

It should go on eBay. Seriously. Clean it thoroughly with mild soap and water. Re-align everything to be presentable. Make certain that all binding bolts and seat tube / stem move freely. List with no reserve and let the fireworks begin. The bike will go to a collector or vintage rider who really wants it. That's what I'd do (unless, of course, it was in my size)...

tastewar

Sounds like an awesome bike, Joe. Wish I had the wherewithall to take it off your hands. Here's my re-vitalization of a 1977 Fuji Junior. Spent way too much money getting it powder coated, but very pleased with the end result. Wife would kill me if I brought another bike in the house at this point.

ScottRyder 

Just Joe, I'd love to get some photos of the Titanium Record for my blog if possible.

www.vintagefuji.posterous.com

Let me know if you have anything to share.

Scott

Cougrrcj

My '75 S-10-S 'Special Road Racer' bought new in fall '76 as a scratched floor model. Ridden probably 35-40 thousand miles since then.



Just about every component has been replaced over the years. Just got a new (used) 27x1-1/8 Ukai wheelset for it to replace the cheap LBS generic wheelset that is on it now.

oldbikenewbike

My one owner 1998 TEAM FUJI....

I've since replaced the tires with black-walls which looks a LOT better!

rekmeyata

That is a nice bike, I, like you, would hate to see a bike like that go to someone who may not appreciate it. I come from this differently then others because I have a small collection of classic cars, and small collection of vintage bikes, nothing special on the bike thing, but I also don't want to get rid of them. I actually ride all of them just as I drive all my cars, I just select a bike depending on mood or how far I'm going. Coming from a collector attitude I would keep the Fuji because they are difficult to find and it's a lifetime frame, what happens if something happens to your new bike? even if 15 years down the road? I think at some point you may wish you kept and kick yourself in the pants if you sell it. I run into a lot of people who sold some vintage bike then later have sellers remorse. Just think about it longer.

vettefrc2000

My 1975 Special Tourer. All original. This bike is a preservation not a restoration.

Behold!

rekmeyata

Cool!! Nice looking bike, and fantastic job of preserving it, it looks to be in showroom condition; congrats!! I love those lugs, their a bit longer then normal which is why I like them...I don't give a rats arse about them weighing more as some might argue, it's just the way they look that's cool.

Now for the big questions...how often do you ride it? When did you get? Is there a story behind it? Inquiring minds want to know!

nuron

Just picked up this '86 Team Fuji. Will be working on it over the cold months.



Any way to get rid of this rust?

Bikes and Jeeps

I picked up this frameset last week.
S.T.-12
It's going to be my single speed.
I did a search on the internet but i couldn't find this model.
The seller told me it was from the 1980's.

Serial # 77 J 91806

bloud 

Easy, barkeepers friend. You can soak the entire fork for 2 hours and it will all come off with a soft tooth brush. It did not harm my decals, but don't soak it too long.

cb400bill

According to T-Mar's database, it was made in October (or November if Fuji skipped the letter I) 1977.

SERIAL NUMBERS 1976-1978*:

Serial number format YYXZZZZZ where:

YY = two numbers indicating the year of production
X = a letter, indicating the calendar month of manufacturer (A = January, B = February, C = March, etc)
ZZZZZ = a five digit number sequence, probably indicating frame number during month

Example: 77B13425 indicates the 14.425th frame manufactured during February 1977.