Campy hubs on ebay...
 

With 4 days left and 5 bidders, this auction promises to be interesting. Makes any Masi GC a steal at $4K

$475 to $1200 in one bid? Seems fishy to me.

There are other sets for sale in the same price range. Seems to be what they go for....crazy.

Many guys likes those hubs. The only thing campagnolo has to do is just bring them back at 350 bucks the pair and do the same with the old record silver hub. Only those 2 products will get them back in business.

Only 2 pics? Wow.

I don't think that's the original box.

Ok, it may be that I'm a newbie but Campy seems over priced. Couldn't one get a set of vintage Suzue large flange track or BMX hubs for a tenth the price that would work better if used.

i'd be sick to my stomach if i paid that much for hubs
but i guess the bidders have that kind of cheddar laying around

the prices do appear to be in the tulip mania range. The road high flange versions also go high in price, but not this high from what I have seen, still in the $500.+ range.

I have a road set, in line for a project, and I guess I was fortunate buy in before the silliness.

I wonder if these will actually be used, or just gazed upon by the buyer. The Sheriff Star hubs look a lot better when NOS than in the photo from Sheldon's web site documenting possible problems when used on road instead of track:
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/image...ar-hub-500.jpg

More info here: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/record-track.html

Im looking for a road set, and I have the track set. Might just sell the track set and see what I get!

These prices have to do with a free-market value, not a manufacturer's set price. Campagnolo as a company has not set this price. It's based on the desires of a few bike makers (guys like us) who have a vision to have a bike with that look. Someone who wants that badly enough will be willing to pay.

I'd guess that less-shiny examples would go for less.

Is a Suzue just as good? I have no idea, but I haven't seen any in as good a condition.

When the Asian companies first came in, there were some parts with less than perfect details. My recollection from the days of Suzue entering the US market was some low cost and questionable stuff. Dura Ace was originally rather incomplete: good designs and finish, such as the first-gen sidepull brake, but with cheap and fragile fasteners on the cable clamp - have to be real careful with those nuts. Watch out for any NOS brake shoes, too, and if possible replace them with Kool-Stops. OTOH, I find NOS Campy brake blocks to be fine. But I'm odd that way.

Right. I'd be surprised if hubs this late ever came in the yellow box. I think the seller is stretching.

Maybe this is part of the reason current production Campagnolo Pista hubs are only in low flange.

i think you can relate these hub failures back to two causes: radial lacing and road use. in my experience campagnolo parts are designed very well but when they tell you not to do something, dont do it.

the same can be said for their delta brakes. set up per the instructions with the correct width rims they work. throw them on a bike with rims that are too narrow or install them improperly and they will just look good while they slowly scrub off speed.

I think it may be.

Do note that the failed hub above was laced tangentially. And keep in mind that the C-Record high flange road hubs were identical in flange design to the track hubs, so I don't think road use can be claimed as a cause for these failures.

My suspicion is over-zealous tensioning by someone in the "more is better" school of wheel building.

Vary crazy, If I had a set I would sell them and buy a BMX set.

That may be true, but it was striking that Campagnolo itself was unwilling to stand behind the hubs for road use. As Sheldon documents in his letter exchange with the company, the official Campy position was:

"I definitely recommend to use "track" hubs exclusively in the velodrome. Please do not sell them for road use. Road use can certainly be considered "abuse" or "misuse", and the fact that Campagnolo has always been quite tolerant in the enforcement of its warranty policies and has always erred on the side of the customer shouldn't encourage wrong habits."

Sheldon himself thought this was an amazing and appalling statement, but there it is, straight from the Campagnolo Technical and Product Information department.

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/record-track.html

I don't see what is appalling about it. You will "void" the warranty on many road parts if you are over 180lbs or ride off road. Mfgs have to draw the line somewhere. I've been on campys end before.

More Sheriff Star madness:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2608836048...84.m1586.l2649

Expecting it to rocket in price.