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Old 10-30-11, 03:15 PM
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French threaded pedals recommendation

French threaded pedals for light touring and 20-30 mi paved romps with 10 1/2 sized feet? Probably run half clips or full clips.

Got some Stronglight 49d coming in ...would like to avoid tapping to 9/16.
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Lyotard 240s or the Berthets.


240:

Berthets:


Both show up on eBay with some regularity. And the cones are interchangeable with the 136Rs, which are also a decent pedal, mechanically speaking, if a little cheap-looking. But they are just as common as crabgrass if you need a budget option. Now, the top picture is actually of the 460D which is almost a full inch shorter than the 240. Don't know why they named them thus but there you have it, they are otherwise identical.
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Thanks Captain Blight.
Have you had any problems with the 240's squeaking? Do you think the Berthets would work with half clips...the outside edge has little or no ridge?

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No, no squeaking at all. And of course they're fully over-haul-able. Very well-made pieces of kit. I think the Berthets would work better with full clips and straps; but if you want to try them out with half-clips, I think you should. If you find out they don't work, you can always trade them off or let them hang out in your parts bin where they'll tangle on all sorts of loose stuff. Your call, man.
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+1 for the Lyotard's. Very nice pedals.
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Zeus metric pedals also appear on eBay quite often:

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It depends on whether or not you want to keep your French bike/crankset "original." If you do, you'll have to find NOS or used 14x1.25 threaded pedals. These are not easy to find at your LBS, but there are plenty on flea-bay. You will find a limited choice of designs: rat-traps, quills, and the Bertholet style. Atom and Lyotard made most of these.

If you don't care about originality, it is quite easy to re-tap the crank arms to 9/16" (you'll need right and left threaded taps). This doesn't remove much "meat" from the crank arms and thereafter you can use a staggering variety of standard modern pedals.
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does anyone make an adapter?
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+3......Tap them and don't look back. Lotsa very fine pedals
for touring at reasonable prices (and higher) once you do.

Sealed bearing pedals of reasonable quality are one of the few
technological advances in the bike industry over the last 20
years that I am able to embrace with open arms and enthusiasm
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The selection of 9/16 pedals is far better than the French threaded ones. I, too, like to remain original, but I also like to use clip-in pedals on all of my bikes these days. With this in mind, I spent the forty dollars and bought myself a set of pedal taps. Parktool sells them and taping a set of cranks is very easy to do.


That said...

Not everyone will want to invest in a set of taps for a single job. Find an older bicycle shop, take you 49d cranks there and have them tap the threads for you. Chances are they will not even charge you for this very small job.

Hope this is a help.
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We still have French threaded Lyotard's in stock at our shop I know I was looking at a pair the other day that may be 240's, let me know if you are interested and I will check on the models we have.
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-1 on tapping

If you want stronglight 49d's I am sure you can match them up to a set of french threaded pedals.
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Originally Posted by prettyshady View Post
-1 on tapping

If you want stronglight 49d's I am sure you can match them up to a set of french threaded pedals.
Yes. Looking to stay French threaded.
I am building up a Huret dropped Raleigh Competition and trying to use as many French Components as possible. Seat post and Handle bar stem are a challenge. I just got a set of Mallard 700 hubs...now looking for rims. Going a bit OCD.

Lots of choices of pedals on ebay and a few on-line vendors. My standard pedal has been SKS Sylvan Tourings and also Campa. quills.
The Berthets would be something completely different and look tres cool.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. -D
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Originally Posted by djkashuba View Post
Yes. Looking to stay French threaded.
I am building up a Huret dropped Raleigh Competition and trying to use as
many French Components as possible
. Seat post and Handle bar stem are
a challenge. I just got a set of Mallard 700 hubs...now looking for rims. Going a bit OCD.

Lots of choices of pedals on ebay and a few on-line vendors. My standard
pedal has been SKS Sylvan Tourings and also Campa. quills.
The Berthets would be something completely different and look tres cool.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. -D
If you ever get to the point in therapy where you can just
come to terms with tapping these, I live in Sacramento, work
Saturdays at the Bike Kitchen (coop), have a set of taps that
work very nicely, and would be more than happy to do this for
you some Saturday with advance notice. Takes maybe ten
or fifteen minutes, depending on how much coaxing is required
in the extraction of your old pedals.

Also, I do not understand your comments about the seat post and stem?
Is this some sort of Raleigh Competition with which I am unfamiliar?

No doubt I'm missing something here .
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If you want to stay with French pedals, with french threading and be willing to spend a bit of money, there have been a few sets of nice black anodized Maillard 700 CXC aero platform pedals for sale at eBay in the last few months. Quite a bit overpriced for what they are (I think they should only be half or even less than what they are asking for), but they should be a treat to use if you can get them at a better price. BTW, the seller don't seem to be providing the proprietary clips for the pedals. You might have to buy the much cheaper versins to harvest the clips for the pedal from, The baseline CXCs usually go for pretty cheap when they come up.

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Atom 600/700

I think these are pretty nice ......

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Tap ´em, it´s cheap, easy and opens up all sorts of pedal options. That´s what I did. My LBS charged €3
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3Alarmer said:

"Also, I do not understand your comments about the seat post and stem?
Is this some sort of Raleigh Competition with which I am unfamiliar?"

This project is part aesthetics and part learning exercise...but mostly fun. The Frame takes a 22.2 stem and a 27.0 seatpost. Most French components of these varieties are of different dimensions.
Not finding weird parts is not going to hold up the build- I'm just having fun looking around. I started with a good looking frame. Someone gave me a great deal on Huret Jubilees, local craig's list had some Mallard 700's ...the rest we will see. The pedals are readily available.

I love the Sac Bike Kitchen. Righteous work being done out there. Great vibe every time I have stopped by. Thanks for your work!

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JMO but maybe you should look for a French Frame for all these French bits.
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Or maybe English parts...that would be interesting.

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Before you "tap 'em" .......What crank set do you have? It would be a shame to alter something very nice when there is still a reasonable supply of Fench threaded pedals around. Just my opinion of course.
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Or maybe English parts...that would be interesting.

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On an English Bike?? That's just crazy talk
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