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Old 10-31-11, 08:08 PM
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1962? Raleigh Gran Sport

i picked this little beauty up today after work.

spotted on local CL, thought it would be too small for me (seller didn't have size info), but to my surprise it's a 58cm c-c, perfect!

purchased from the original owner, bought in the early 60's he said. i did a little googling and it looks like a 1962 (bulgier catalog scans and flickr).

it appears to be mostly original, except saddle, bar tape and top clips/straps (although he gave me some Christophe clips and straps that may be original).

my plan is to take it apart and sell everything separately on ebay





JUST KIDDING!!! NEVER!

hopefully i will have time tomorrow to take everything apart, drop a few bits in some oxalic acid (including the lower half of the fork), clean up the paint, light wax. in the next week or so i hope to rebuild the wheels, locate a Brook B15N...


anyway, the paint looks very good for a 50 year old bike, hardly any scratches just a little fading here and there. all the decals are in excellent shape. no dents or dings, just lovely!

oh, and i need to replace the right shifter, anyone have one? i'll dig through my parts bin and see how a later NR lever compares.


also, i paid the seller's asking price ($200, how'd i do?), so hopefully he'll be able to dig up the original fenders and pump, also said he may have the original water bottle and Brooks laying around (although i doubt it's in ridable condition, i still want it).


here are pics of how i received it, will have updates soon (unlike my Colnago thread):


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Old 10-31-11, 08:09 PM
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Old 10-31-11, 08:45 PM
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Great score shnibop! - That will clean up beautifully and ride even better!
(Not so sure about the Campy DR but English chrome always seems to come back like new).

I love the little details on these bikes - the fork mounted lamp, GB brakes, the cloverleaf crank. Lovely.
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Beauty! Love it. Especially brakes, bar/stem, and fork mount.

Enjoy.
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Oh, my.
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Love those levers and bars!
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Would love to find one of these in a 55cm... figure that the Gran Sport would fill the slot in my collection for a classic 60's bicycle.
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Old 10-31-11, 11:31 PM
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Beautiful! I'm looking forward to pictures after it gets a little TLC.
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dig it big time - gonna be a special one
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I would so love to find one in 60CM. Beautiful bike. I would keep it forever.
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Old 11-01-11, 05:05 AM
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Would these levers work?

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Old 11-01-11, 05:24 AM
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Gorgeous bike, it should clean up like new.
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Very nice score - I saw that ad and am glad it went to a good home. The paint looks really good. Back when there was lead in it, paint lasted forever.
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Last winter I restored a '68 Gran Sport for a friend. He was the original owner and it had not been modified, even had the original Wrights saddle (which was beyond salvaging). It is interesting to see how it changed in those 6 years. His was all Weinmann and Huret equipped. The crankset was different as well. But the basic scheme of the paint. His did not have a lamp bracket on the fork.
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really cool. That's a classic. That copper handlebar detail is amazing.
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Congratulations, that is a beautiful bike. I hope it cleans up well! And if you can get the original parts, all the better.

I am pretty sure Valentino shifters would work, but the chrome on Record shifters is better.
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Fan-funkin-tastic.
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Great pickup! Very cool bike.
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Beautiful bike, beautiful color, everything is beautiful! Phenomenal score, great job! I want one, but in blue like yours!

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It looks like you have the original BH Racelite hubs laced to Dunlop Special lightweights. Those wheels are worth the price you paid. Keep your eye on the GB stem. I've had two of those crack. It's like the top point has a stress riser. Nice colour !
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thanks for all the positive comments!

i was able to get the bike taken apart today, everything came off smoothly. stem and seat post slipped right out.

clubman- i'll keep an eye on the stem, everything looks ok right now though. the hubs are indeed the BH Racelight hubs, the rims may be the Dunlops you speak of, i left them at the shop though, figured they were junk (i've since told my buddy who works at the shop to hang on to them). a lot of the holes that the spokes go through on the rim were pulled out (towards the hub) as if the spokes had been over-tightened. i didn't notice any cracks or splitting but would be shocked if none of them were. the spokes were toast and 2 of them had broken off at the head, a bunch of the nipples had been replaced and some were rounded off as well.

my intentions after taking a closer look at them was to rebuild the wheels with a modern 27in rim such as the SUN CR18's. i will probably hang onto the original rims though since you mention it. i would ditch the 27in and go 700c for tire choice options but i don't think the calipers would reach.


i found this in the bottom bracket shell:


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appears to read 12-2-61, so my assumption that this is a 1962 model may be correct.

also the serial number is: RA 61319 N (and "SA" hand carved, thought it may have been the original owner's initial's but his son's last name starts with a 'K')

not sure how to decode the serial, i checked Sheldon's dating a Raleigh page but can't figure it out (https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/dating.html)


anyway, i'll be rebuilding the hubs, cleaning all the bits and pieces and be updating soon, stay tuned...

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Very nice and appears to be all original except for the saddle. I had a 62 (dated from receipt of 5-62) with a serial # of RB 11164 N. These are very cool looking bikes. You do see them show up quite often though...relatively speaking. I think they were one of the few European lightweights (if you can call them light) that showed up in American bike shops at the time. Mine was purchased in Seattle from Greggs Greenlake Cycles (still in business). Here's the original reciept....



Nice smooth ride, a little heavy (I'd definitely replace those steel rims) and VERY cool looking. I sold mine awhile ago but looking at the pics I do have regrets....(it was a tad small, and I did buy a chrome Paramount that fits me with the sales money so I don't feel too bad). Nice find.



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Old 11-02-11, 06:21 AM
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If you do replace those steel rims, please send them to me. I love those things.

It is very hard to find a pair of rims to match the Racelite hubs. I won't say impossible, since I have managed to put together four pairs over the last few years. But I don't know of any rim, either 27" or 700c, that is currently made in both 40H and 32H drillings. Some are made in both 40H and 36H, others in 36H and 32H; so it is possible to mix and match to some degree. One possible exception in 700c is Sun CR18's, which are common in 32H and 36H, and sometimes available in 40H (probably only NOS at this point). The same rim is currently available in all three drillings in 650A (26 x 1 3/8) which isn't as crazy as it sounds. But my recommendation would be to keep the original rims if at all possible (unless, of course, you'd prefer to send them to me).
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Wow, really beautiful bike. I love that paint job!

Looking forward to the pics after you clean her up. Good score!
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Rhm- thanks for the tip, I had not considered the difficulty in locating a matching set of rims with the odd hole count. In fact I hadn't even counted the number of spokes, though when I was taking them apart it seemed like one had more than the other.

Hoping to get the hubs rebuilt and cleaned up tonight. I'll be dropping by my LBS to pick up the original rims and see what I can get the CR18's in.
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