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Old 05-05-12, 06:04 PM
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Don't have to worry 'bout that!
Actually, I do.

I have this overwhelming desire to build and ride it now...
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This is looking really great! Hold on tight to your patience and take your time to do the build right -- you'll be glad you did.
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Actually, I do.

I have this overwhelming desire to build and ride it now...
Use The Force, Luke.
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This is looking awesome! Very well done.

May I ask if you prepped the PC in any way before painting the black areas, and what kind of paint you used for the black?
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Old 05-06-12, 07:11 PM
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This is looking really great! Hold on tight to your patience and take your time to do the build right -- you'll be glad you did.
Yeah, I keep telling myself that. At this point I am asking my wife to help me with the lug outlines. My hand has never been that steady and age has not improved that condition.


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This is looking awesome! Very well done.

May I ask if you prepped the PC in any way before painting the black areas, and what kind of paint you used for the black?
Yes, I prepped the PC, following Robbie's instructions (there's a reason I called him Obi Wan). I used 600 grit paper and completely sanded it like a paint layer. Sand until the whole surface is scuffed. You will then have removed the dimples and high spots.

The paint I used was sign painter's 1 shot. It is fantastic paint that goes on very well with a brush or can be used to spray on as well. We have a really good Mom and Pop paint shop here that caters to the hot rod crowd. Pueblo Colorado hosts a national level hot rod show every year.

So far the paint has been great.
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I meant your way past the 1/2 way mark, seems only the tubes and lugs remain from the original.
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Old 05-07-12, 03:43 AM
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I meant your way past the 1/2 way mark, seems only the tubes and lugs remain from the original.
Good point, and you are correct. However, from what I have been told by Jorge is that Canopus only sold the actual frame sets. They did have a shop attached to the factory that would build up the bikes for clients, but they only exported framesets. In that respect, it is now back to original and I am building it anew.
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In that respect, it is now back to original.
I'd say far from what was there originally and what had been accumulated over time and use

and I am building it anew.
That you are!
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Old 05-23-12, 09:36 AM
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Beautiful restore! I wanted to comment on the Canopus bikes... my dad has two frames, one of them is actually built up with modern Shimano Ultegra components I believe... he's been riding it for two decades almost. He has a spare frame that I don't believe has ever been built up or ridden, it's painted and bubble wrapped. I'm going to visit him this weekend so I'll take some pictures if I get some time. Both of his are red and white.

Some more history as to why my dad chose Canopus, he has a family friend from Colombia who's father worked at Canopus, I know he was some kind of architect or engineer so I'm pretty sure he had a hand in the production/development/engineerg of the Canopus frames. Of course now he's retired, but he is alive and well as I understand, I think he lives in Florida now. I've met him once or twice.

Edit update:
I just called my dad because I wanted to find out a bit more of the history of the family friend's father, turns out it's the same father that was mentioned in the original post here https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hern-Virginia? , this is our family friend's brother (same father of course), which my dad has also met. Small world.

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Old 05-23-12, 11:09 AM
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I believe the OP of this thread and yourself should exchange some info.

Definitely a small world.

I believe the OP here is currently in a very demanding school, but will finish his 'opus for all to see.

Then, of course, I'll sneak into his world and abscond with the bike, put Ironman decals on it, and bomb like Boonen.
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Old 05-23-12, 12:05 PM
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Well I talked to my dad so I will hopefully take some pictures of his two Canopus frames to at least add some eye candy to this thread.
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Old 05-28-12, 06:04 AM
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Danilo,

As Robby mentioned, I am in a brutal school, so the restoration is moving slowly. Had the weather not been horrific in Colorado this weekend, I might have gotten the painting finished. However, 30+ mph winds tends to throw debris around that I did not want in my paint.

Thank you for the history. If you want/need the e-mail of the son with whom I am communicating, let me know.

I would love to see the pictures of your Dad's frames. I saw one NOS Omnicron track frame for sale on the Bay once, at $450 it seemed reasonable.
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Danilo,

As Robby mentioned, I am in a brutal school, so the restoration is moving slowly. Had the weather not been horrific in Colorado this weekend, I might have gotten the painting finished. However, 30+ mph winds tends to throw debris around that I did not want in my paint.

Thank you for the history. If you want/need the e-mail of the son with whom I am communicating, let me know.

I would love to see the pictures of your Dad's frames. I saw one NOS Omnicron track frame for sale on the Bay once, at $450 it seemed reasonable.
So you're doing the painting yourself? I may have some questions for you on that.

I believe my dad knows or has met the other brother in the past. Maybe you can direct him to this thread as maybe he'd like to see some of the pics. My pops was telling me about how he remembered there was a one off kids Canopus made for one of the grandsons that was a tiny little bike... kind of a cool collectible although, who knows where its at now.

Both of my dad's frames are Epsilons and I believe they're both the same size.

His bike has full Shimano ultegra components with Mavic rims... he's been riding this one for years, it was originally built assembled by my dad in the 90's.







no comment on the riding gear it was just a spin around the block, so smooth
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This is the spare frame... painted in a darker red with a pearl white, kind of a hot rod theme.



I like the colors of the Epsilon decal



So this weekend I had another friend who I grew up with who brought his road bike over and I took a spin on it, and took a spin on my dad's too. Was fun to ride, I don't personally have a bike although I've been wanting to try the Velodrome here in Atlanta.
As I was taking pictures me and my dad were talking about them and he said he'd give me his spare frame if I wanted to build it, so there started searching around Craigslist, hoping to find a bike with components I could switch on to the spare Canopus frame. So I stumbled on this Rossin bike with Shimano Dura Ace, Look pedals, it seemed to good to be true. So we got in touch with the seller, he still had it, I left back to ATL, but my pops was able to go take a look at it in person... he took it for a spin, made an offer, seller accepted and now I'm the owner of a Rossin Record (I believe that's the model). I figured the frame would be too big so I was just going to sell it, but actually, it seems as if it's just the right size. So I may just give it a re-paint or powdercoat and just ride that for a while. Maybe one day swap over to the spare Canopus. This is my first road bike so I have much to learn. It needs a bit of a tune up, new tires, new chain, and the frame could use a repaint, it came with decals so it should look nice after paint. Pops is going to help get it back up to shape since the bike is with him. We'll see how the progress goes with it, I'll probably start a thread for it.



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Wow, nice pics and story.

Sweet bike to start as your first.

I have made some progress on my frame. If one were really wanting to make the bike nice, I am not sure I would recommend my course of action. It looks fine to me, but not even close to perfect. In a few years I may try again, but my whole goal here was to make it nice enough and preserve it.

The final clear went on today, it now has to dry and will get assembled this weekend. I still have to let it dry and then rub it out and wax it, put on the Columbus and Campy decals.

The color in the light I used made the yellow look greenish, look at earlier pics to see what the yellow really looks like.





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Oooh friggin' la la. Instant conversation piece.

I normally don't steal bikes....but.....
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Oh man that looks great! Where did you get the decals? They look different than the decals my dad has on his Epsilons which don't seem to be cut vinyl but rather printed on clear sticker material.

It would be neat to get our hands on the original canopus image decals to do some re-prints or recuts in modern vinyl... I have a friend that works at a sign shop that could do this as well.
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If one were really wanting to make the bike nice, I am not sure I would recommend my course of action. It looks fine to me, but not even close to perfect. In a few years I may try again, but my whole goal here was to make it nice enough and preserve it.
I think you're probably being harder on yourself because you did the work, so you know every imperfection by heart and see them as bigger than they really are. That's exactly the problem I had with the paint I put on my Atala. Now that I've got a couple thousand miles on the bike, it's got enough chips and scratches that I've given up on the idea of perfection and I'm really happy with its appearance.

Unless you're carefully photographing it to look better than it is, it's great and worth being proud of. No need to do any better. Just finish the build (when you have time) and then ride it until you don't care about the imperfections anymore.
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Old 06-01-12, 07:39 AM
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Unless you're carefully photographing it to look better than it is...
I am

An even cursory 5 foot inspection would reveal some pretty glaring problems, but they sure won't affect my riding it. Your point is correct, in a few thousand miles it won't hardly matter at all and it will still be an incredibly rare, hand made, Cinelli lugged, Columbus SL tube, Columbus dropout, Campagnolo equipped bike.

I think I can live with that.
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Oh man that looks great! Where did you get the decals? They look different than the decals my dad has on his Epsilons which don't seem to be cut vinyl but rather printed on clear sticker material.

It would be neat to get our hands on the original canopus image decals to do some re-prints or recuts in modern vinyl... I have a friend that works at a sign shop that could do this as well.
Sorry, just saw the questions.

My bike was just like you described, printed on clear sticker material. You can see that from the first pics on this post.

I took my original decals and turned them into graphics. I was able to peel them off and stick them to paper. I then handed them to a local guy to have them made into cut vinyl. I think he didn't like my work so he recreated the files from my original graphics.

I can give you his name and number, I am sure he would ship to you. Might be pretty cheap since I am sure he still has the files.

Contact me offline and I will give you the files I created.

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An even cursory 5 foot inspection would reveal some pretty glaring problems, but they sure won't affect my riding it. Your point is correct, in a few thousand miles it won't hardly matter at all and it will still be an incredibly rare, hand made, Cinelli lugged, Columbus SL tube, Columbus dropout, Campagnolo equipped bike.

I think I can live with that.
Well, if you can't, you have my address.
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Well, if you can't, you have my address.
Your new bike is being assembled tomorrow
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Well, today was the day and, like many projects, I encountered a few hurdles.

The first was that the Campy headset would not fit. The steerer tube was too short. In time I may shave off the head tube a bit, but for now it has a sealed bearing headset.

The next is why it is not finished. I need to repair the threads on the right hand shifter boss. Trying JB weld for now, but it may turn into a much larger event. If I have to take it in to have a new boss brazed on, I may get to try the refinishing all over again. Whee!

Here is how it sits as of now.



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Looking great! You'll clear those last little hurdles. You probably don't want to shave down the HT but instead find a different headset you like that already fits.

They say you can drill and tap JB weld... If you can put a small enough amount of it in there, you can probably tap it to work again -- it's not like a downtube shifter boss undergoes a lot of heavy loading. I bet it would work!
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