Cinelli - date and component suggestions.
 

I bought this in my size, and I am guessing its older than the stickers tell me.
What do you think its age is, and what parts would suit it best?

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0078.JPG

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0084.JPG
http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0085.JPG
http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0086.JPG

1536

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0079.JPG
mod 61 brakes

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0080.JPG
head badge

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0081.JPG
http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0082.JPG
campagnolo tripples are always useful

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/Cinelli_/DSC_0083.JPG

forks, seat stay cluster, bonus photo, rear dropouts

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...elli_story.htm

The Campy stuff on it is just fine, that triple is a nice find. Rare, and very cool on that bike. I'd use what it's running now for parts and just rebuild. That is going to be one sweet restoration!

Nice! Looks to be an early 60s (62-64?) with a later (80s) repaint and top tube braze-ons. Brass head badge, Universal 61s (would love to have that rear brake hanger!), and double oil ports all are good clues to age. Are there date codes on the crank? Derailleurs are much later.

More photos please! She's a keeper.

The early 60's date is what I was hoping for, with later decals put on.
The crank date code is a square with an 11, is that 1985?
http://www.velo-retro.com/tline.html (at very bottom)

http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/datecode/DSC_0095.JPG

Yes, looks early 60's and I second "dibs" on the rear Universal brake hanger. The Triple looks like a conversion, the factory triples had shorter flutes on the spider that stopped before the small ring mounting bolts.

I will try and hunt for some more Universal brake hangers for you guys, but I have to keep that one!

Nice spot on the tripple conversion,

here is a photo of a tripple on a differnt bike with the shorter flutes
http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/camptripp/DSC_0019.JPG

and the longer flutes on the cinelli cranks
http://www.veloup.com/2011/nov/camptripp/DSC_0082.JPG

I'll concur as well, early 60's. And yes, you are lucky to have the brake hanger and original seat-clamp bolt as both are tough to find. Nice that they left the badge intact as well. Are you going to remove the TT braze-on's and re-paint?

The shifters are clamped on, and I think the paint has just faded from red to orange over the years.

I really want to get the original decal set back on and put a leather saddle on to match the bike. It would be best to repaint then put the decals on but I uully can't afford to repaint frames as I don't know a local frame painter.

My camera flash makes the rust look really bad but I am sure I can get it looking better over winter.

I was referencing the brake cable braze-on's, not the shifters (which luckily were left alone). If the decals are not clear coated and can be removed without leaving marks, then I would remove them and re-decal with the proper period graphics. I would carefully cut off the top-tube cable guides and file flat without damaging the paint around them. Then use the proper clamp-on style over the cut-off sections so you will not see it. Note; the correct early 60's clamp-on cable hold-downs are a bit wider then the typical 70's ones you see, so that may come in handy.

If you take your time, a rattle can paint job can be many times better than what's on there now. I'm assuming the paint is not original. Decals are on ebay at all times.

I'd put on Campagnolo Record on the RD and FD - get rid of the Simplex. The stem and bars look newer. Old logo Cinelli would be appropriate. It looks like a curved quick release on the rear, that would be a no no.

All in all, a great bike that looks like it was upgraded later in life.

Note the eyelets. Couple that with a triple, and boy, a nice all-around rig with a high-end pedigree.

I completely agree with the strip and refinish. Both JR and Cyclomondo have the period decals. Only by stripping would you know what can come back with the chrome or not.

There have been many of those Campy dual BB clamp-on cable guides out there, and I'm sure there are some TT cable guides hanging around. After all, you only need 3. Then, salvage that crankset and see if you can find the right RD, make a nice, very nice triple setup.

I think that you're correct about the crank code.

I'd either:

1) Leave paint on there and possibly re-decal (if you can removed the current decals).

2) DIY respray if you're really, really up for trying it and can find a suitable color. These are big Ifs.

3) Spend the necessary dough for a proper repaint from a reputable shop that knows hows to paint old bikes (not to thick or glossy, etc.). This will cost a decent chunk of change.

Personally, I'd give #1 a shot. It won't cost you much, and it will give you time to see if you really like, if it really fits you, and if you want to keep her. No point in sinking much money into it if you're going to end up selling it. You're not likely to get your money back. Replacing the derailleurs won't be too horrible (though the period correct Record doesn't fall into your lap every day).

If you're in love with it and it fits you, it will be worth it. If not, pass the project along to someone who's up for it.

Congrats. She's a beauty.

If you do go rattlecan, Duplicolor BCP 103 caliper paint (available at auto parts stores) is a pretty good match for the classic Cinelli grey/silver. It's a fine metallic and can go on very thin if you are careful. I used it to repaint the top-tube of my early 60's SC and it's a pretty good match. Plus being brake caliper paint it should hold up well.

And then finish 'er off with a proper set of Record pedals. Great find. That bike has real potential.

Thanks for the tip.

Thank you for the clear information.
I do plan to take on the full restoration so I will follow this advice and replace the cable braze ons with the older clamps

I was originally thinking red, but after seeing the grey it does look smart. I will try and find a simular paint as unfortunatly (for shopping) I am in france.


Option 3 is not posible for me, as I know no painters out here.
I was thinking option 1, but after seeing the grey colour I think I will go for the repaint. I will have to pratice on a few frames as I need to learn to paint as I have a few other projects that need new paint, ie the leopard painted gios...

Nice spot! I have the original campagnolo wheels which has highflange hubs and none curved QR. I brought 7 bikes that day and 5 of them had campagnolo wheel sets so they were all mixxed up in the back of the car.