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mapleleafs-13 11-10-11 06:11 PM

Before and after and then way after thread
 
So here's a story of a bike in my collection that i got, it started me on this bike craze of C&V addiction.

The story was i originally bought this bike for my brother he started riding again and i wasn't on a bike at the time, i rushed out about 40 mins to get it, not knowing anything really about pinarello at the time, i just knew by looking at the sellers pictures and with my little knowledge of vintage bikes at the time, i knew it was worth more than what he was asking for. I was the second guy to email him, he said he had a guy coming but he could only come out at night. with my smooth talking i ended up being the first guy to see it. I ended up paying an amazing price for the bike, if i told people most of you would hate me.

I dragged it home to show my brother and he said it was slightly big. I ended up taking everything apart and doing a full clean and overhaul and it turned out way better than i though, i took her out for a spin and fell in love with the bike. It had a 105 groupset with brifters, (this bike is also reponsible for me not wanting downtubes on any of my bikes as well). Anyways, i fixed it up really nice, cleaned it up and the paint was way better than i thought it was on the bike, it had tons of black speckels and mud and stuff that i thought the paint would be horrid. Anyways to make a long story short, this is still one of my prized bike possessions to this day. I know it's not the top of the line in the pinarello line but i still love it all the same.

I have made some revisions to the bike lately that i've wanted to do for a while. It always seemed like it was missing something to me, but now if feels very complete with a couple exceptions, but i'm very happy with how it is now.

I've provided a "before", "after" and "after after" pictures, i would state all the different changes from "after" to "after after", but i'll let you guys do all the spotting, let's see who can notice all the changes.

A special thanks goes out to IRVRI, Drillium Dude, and Dave H from the Roadbikereviewforums.com

(I posted this bike when i first became a member of bikeforums.net so you may have seen it before, but this is the newest condition that it is in. I hope you guys enjoy it, and feel free to post your updated pictures of your most recently wrenched bike in your collection as well, i always enjoy seeing pictures)

One pinarello down, now i gotta worry about building up my pinarello montello frame.....:D

BEFORE:
I wish i took a picture of it when i first got it, halfway through taking it apart i realized i didn't take a pic, so this is it, after cleaning and some parts taking off.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s/IMG_1702.jpg

AFTER:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s/IMG_2371.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s/IMG_1768.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s/IMG_1770.jpg

mapleleafs-13 11-10-11 06:13 PM

And now AFTER AFTER

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...neto0001-1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0002.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0003.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0004.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0005.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0006.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0007.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0008.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0009.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...Veneto0010.jpg

I think i'm gonna have to reshoot the after after photos, the lighting wasn't all that great at the time but i couldn't resist putting them on the forum

devinfan 11-10-11 06:22 PM

Looks amazing! I've been lucky enough to see this bike in person in most of its incarnations, and to ride it. I'm glad you've had the sense to hang onto your first love, considering all the bikes that have come through your hands. The Dura Ace looks great (the post finally matches!) and so does the Rolls.

The Thin Man 11-10-11 06:27 PM

That's a hot, ice blue steed! Nicely done.

devinfan 11-10-11 06:31 PM

Edit: tires are looking a little dirty there, bud! if your looking for a hilarious experience, go for a ride with mapleleafs13 on a regular bike trail and watch his looks of misery and consternation at every single patch of dust and drop of water. He spends half the time walking and carrying his white tires over everything!

pitbull007 11-10-11 06:35 PM

wow Turned out amazing with the seat and dura ace,it must ride realllllllly nice

Chef Bigs 11-10-11 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 (Post 13478997)

What bar wrap is that and where did you get it?

mazdaspeed 11-11-11 12:29 AM

Awesome. I love the dura ace.

gaucho777 11-11-11 03:35 AM

Beautiful bike, mapleleafs-13. Such fine upgrades. Elegant pimp.

(Tape is Pelten fade; they don't make it any more. :( )

WNG 11-11-11 10:14 AM

Beautiful Pinarello! Likey likey.

mapleleafs-13 11-11-11 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devinfan (Post 13479089)
Edit: tires are looking a little dirty there, bud! if your looking for a hilarious experience, go for a ride with mapleleafs13 on a regular bike trail and watch his looks of misery and consternation at every single patch of dust and drop of water. He spends half the time walking and carrying his white tires over everything!

SHHHH....ur supposed to keep that between you and me, now all of C&V knows.

Generally i avoid anything dirty let along riding on grass with all my steeds, but with this one i have to be extra careful cause i hate cleaning the sidewall, yes i clean the sidewalls, doesn't take me long, but it completes the look. These tires have been ridden for a season on and off so they've kinda gotten that permanent dirt. but are still white, not the same shade of white as they were new though :( and yes i do pick up my bike and carry it over puddles on the bike paths. :D



Quote:

Originally Posted by pitbull007 (Post 13479128)
wow Turned out amazing with the seat and dura ace,it must ride realllllllly nice

Does she ever!, i always thought the 105 SC group with the beige finish was nice and functioned awesome, but i always thought the bike would could look better. i take her out for a maiden voyage soon.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef Bigs (Post 13479864)
What bar wrap is that and where did you get it?

It is FUBAR handlebar tape, i think this company is geared towards fixie kids or whatnot but the tape was what i needed, Gaucho777 is right that pelten does make similar tape, i believe their tape is a little softer, the FUBAR stuff seems to be a little more dense and harder. BUT the nice part about the FUBAR tape is that it's not cork, so it doesn't get dirty easily because it's white, we all know how white cork handlebar tape looks after a while, blah....

here's the link for the FUBAR stuff:

this is the ebay search: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...=p3286.c0.m359

these next links are from jones bicycles:

http://jonesbicycles.com/merchant/40...DSCF0027-1.jpg

http://jonesbicycles.com/product/f.u...-tape-1648.htm


They used to have red and purple on the site, but i can't find it :(

here's a link for the pelten stuff, pink anyone?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CYCLOLINEA-P...ht_1654wt_1163



test ride is today so i will keep you guys updated

Drillium Dude 11-11-11 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 (Post 13481415)
...test ride is today so i will keep you guys updated

I hope for your tire's sake it doesn't piss down with rain today :)

This is one beautiful build - particularly the paint. That's a fade job done just right! Parts selection is spot-on for the modern update, too. Fantastic final-final result, bud!

Glad I could help out, small as my contribution might have been.

Enjoy it in safety and good health.

DD

mapleleafs-13 11-11-11 12:04 PM

Thanks DD!

anyways here's the upgrades , it seems like most of you have caught the obvious ones.

the old bike had shimano 105SC group with brifters, The majority of the bike is Dura Ace 7410 groupset, the brifters, brakes, cranks, derailleur, seat post (i already had), and a NOS in box Dura ace HG chain, I have a headset from this series but i don't have enough stack height on the current fork, so i will have to keep an eye out for a NOS pinarello for on ebay or so, the current shimano 105 headset will do for now.
I do need a nice set of wheels with dura ace hubs that accept an 8 speed cassette if you guys have a pair for sale in good condition please let me know.

I will have to say that this is probably one of the nicest looking groups for anything 8 speed, i love that rear derailleur and crank i think it's much nicer than the dura ace 7400 groups, the major differences from the 7400 is the crank, dual pivot brakes, front derailleur, seat post, and i believe the brifters?

I believe i made a post here a while back asking about san marco supercorsa, rolls, selle italia saddles, and most of you voted for the turbo i believe, whatever it was i still went with a perforated san marco rolls saddle, i got ride of my fizik saddle cause after reading and learning a bit more on the forums i realied that fizik just wouldn't cut it :) but i do like the rolls a bazillion times better.

one thing that hasn't been mentioned so far was the cable housing. i changed it from black to white using shimano SLR brake housing and shimano SP-15 non compression gear housing, i even have Dura Ace brake cables :) (bike nerd alert)

Dave Hickey 11-11-11 01:22 PM

Great looking build...That turned out fantastic......( and yes, I post over here sometime too:-))

Roger M 11-11-11 01:42 PM

I'll pile on with everyone else here.. That's a great looking bike, and the tape(I'm normally a solid bland color guy) flows well with the bike. Nice work.

Here is my contribution.

Before: this was a day or two away from getting melted down( bought what you see here from a metal recycler for $8)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/IMG_2841.jpg

After: Had to source brakes and wheels, and a couple other things. I rode it through last winter and then hung it up until the end of summer.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...all2010251.jpg

I found a 6500 group for a good price, so I blew the bike apart and changed a few things

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/IMG_5890.jpg

Last winter took its toll on the white fenders, so I looked around for a replacement set, and found these Honjos for $20 on CL. Here it is in current garb. I was thinking last night about what to do with the old parts from this(other than store them). I have a new project that will use most of the old pieces, and will compliment this bike at the same time(I hope).

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/IMG_6307.jpg

Bimdapogs 11-11-11 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devinfan (Post 13479089)
if your looking for a hilarious experience, go for a ride with mapleleafs13 on a regular bike trail and watch his looks of misery and consternation at every single patch of dust and drop of water. He spends half the time walking and carrying his white tires over everything!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 (Post 13481415)
SHHHH....ur supposed to keep that between you and me, now all of C&V knows.

Generally i avoid anything dirty let along riding on grass with all my steeds, but with this one i have to be extra careful cause i hate cleaning the sidewall, yes i clean the sidewalls, doesn't take me long, but it completes the look. These tires have been ridden for a season on and off so they've kinda gotten that permanent dirt. but are still white, not the same shade of white as they were new though :( and yes i do pick up my bike and carry it over puddles on the bike paths. :D

LMAO! Too funny!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 (Post 13481415)
test ride is today so i will keep you guys updated

I hope the weather didn't ruin you plan. It was too COLD this morning, I didn't end up riding as planned..

RobbieTunes 11-11-11 03:09 PM

Amazing builds. I thought I heard some wringing out there when the DA showed up on the Pin'
but I've got no problem with it.


I'll play.....

Before, by a barn in Montana. 2x6 NR, Ofmega and Universal parts, Sunshine skewers...
I sold everything but the frame and headset, stem and bars...and started looking around.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/DSCN1201.jpg

After, with a mix of Chorus/Veloce stuff, SSM sadle, Hope Tech/Ambrosios, generic stem (same bars/stem/headset)
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i.../Almost035.jpg

After After, with Campy seatpost, better fitting Cinelli stem, all Chorus group w/Eurus wheelset, clinchers. http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...s/P1010260.jpg
I've aged, however, and the 12-19 rear has had to give way to reality. I'm now running a 12-21. Humbling.

I'm working on a "final answer," which may well involve newer, but more traditional wheels and an upgraded group.
I'm also going to have the frame clearcoated for a little more durability and protection for the decals.
The "takeoffs" will probably go to another bike that will then qualify as a "Before, After, then After" bike.

I plan to ride it a lot more in 2012, as part of a "main" 3-bike rotation: Turbo, this, and a player to be named later.

Like our Toronto friend, I have a close relative of this bike in the works, but I have no "before" pics.
It came to me as a frame; I have about 25 sq cm of the frame left to scrub to bare metal, by hand, with steel wool.

mapleleafs-13 11-12-11 01:38 PM

Roger M and robbietunes, those are both beautiful bikes, i do quite enjoy both of them, i like robbie's better cause it looks like it's my size :)

UPDATE :

anyways took her out for a test ride yesterday and everything shifts and rides smoothly, the braking is phenominal.

The dura ace shifting is awesome, super smooth, slightly smoother than the 105SC group i had with brifters, but those were already amazing. I would have to say that 105 SC group is definitely underrated, if you guys were looking for a group to try out brifting with or for a cheaper setup, i suggest you get ahold of one of those groups cause they usually are fairly priced. Unlike the dura ace group on my bike right now, it was definitely more expensive to get a few of the parts i wanted, but it's the way i wanted. Once again i just gotta say that shifting is awesome with shimano, i will have to say it's better than campy of that era, even the c-record stuff with ergo brifters. It never misses a shift and shifts smoothly. Other than a minor derailleur adjustment the bike is awesome!!!!!

thanks for all the comments guys

pinch1967 11-12-11 03:07 PM

before
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1311120904

pinch1967 11-12-11 03:08 PM

after
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1321130375

mapleleafs-13 11-13-11 11:18 AM

Nice Masi, why'd u repaint, i really liked the white color, was the paint bad?



Also i do have my bike poster on velospace.org so if you have an account on there please feel free to leave a comment, i see robbietunes has already found it, lol....here's the link:

http://velospace.org/node/39934


**** ON ANOTHER NOTE

i'm also looking for a pair of dura ace wheels with an 8 speed hub with cassette in the the 7400 series, if you have a pair for sale please feel free to PM me

rhm 11-14-11 08:23 AM

Before, as in, before it was even made, or sold:
http://sheldonbrown.com/retroraleigh...rts-51-cat.jpg

After, as in, after it was made and ridden for 60 years, but before I'd done anything to it:http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6175/...b7b0d3a5_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/...df199e76_b.jpg

And after, as in, after I've overhauled it, put on some new (old) parts, including fenders, crank, saddle, bag, and wheels. I reused the headlights that came with the bike, which are not correct, especially now that I've converted them to LED's. Bright, though!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6229/...3fda216e_b.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6220/...5e1602c2_b.jpg

gaucho777 11-14-11 01:31 PM

Really nice work, rhm!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 (Post 13481415)
It is FUBAR handlebar tape...

Thanks for the info re the tape.


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