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what is this bianchi cicli forza bicycle?

Old 11-22-11, 12:19 AM
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what is this bianchi cicli forza bicycle?

https://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...711322033.html

In my desperate search for a small or ladies road bike, I came upon this. Any idea if this is a bianchi or not? What is it? Any good? There looks to be a bit of rust, but at $200, I'd be willing to take a chance if it is a good bike. I have yet to find out where the forza lies in the hierarchy.
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Knowing the characteristics of a Quality Bicycle is important when seeking to purchase a nice old road bicycle. I know nothing about the bicycle presented, but it does look to be a pretty decent bike, based on what I know about good bikes.

As for the price, is it very difficult to estimate value of an old road bicycle. Determining Bicycle Vintage is not just about a bike. Things like time of year, size, location and condition, all come into play.

As for being a Bianchi, there are far more knowledgeable people on the forum, regarding Bianchi, than I.

That said, I hope I have been a help.
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Old 11-22-11, 07:58 AM
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Shimano (golden Arrow) 105 dates it 1983-1986. During this period, Bianchi typically embossed the stay caps and fork crown. I don't see this, so it's probably not a Bianchi.

Regardless, this is a nice lady's model. Typically, you don't get this level of components and frame features (forged dropouts, brazed on shifter bosses, cable tunnels, etc). The frame level looks comparable to the components, I doubt it's hi-tensile steel. If the post diameter is above 26.0mm it's better than hi-tensile.

Given the hot Vancouver market this is worth a serious look and may be a steal. IMO, unless there is something major that is wrong, it's worth the price, even if the frame is hi-tensile. If this was in my area, I'd be on my way right now. If you get it, the serial number may provide a clue to its lineage.
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Yeah, I figured early 80's with the shimano 600, and the seller got back to me. It's probably japanese made with hi mang tubing(whatever that means). The decals etc do not look like a bianchi bike though. However, to find a lady's model with better quality anything is rare and if I could get into Vancouver before the weekend and it hasn't sold yet, I would consider for it is a good price for Vancouver's nightmarish 'vintage' market.
I am intrigued by the lineage of this bike and found nothing on the net about it and not sure where the seller got bianchi.
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Pretty good deal. Whatever it is.
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Cicli Forza was a Vancouver shop in the 80's/90's. Maybe built/labeled/imported for them by Bianchi Canada at that time, I know there were other shops that were ordering bikes built up to their specs at that time although they were all labeled Bianchi.
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So Chung - this guy is a HEAVY poster on CL in Vancouver - is willing to let that bike go for $200, even though he has it up at $350 in his ad? He's always quick on the steals that go up on CL...I keep seeing the nice $80 CL bikes relisted within a few hours for a couple hundred more, and a familiar name & number!

One small bike that caught my eye (not a mixte, though), was this Nishiki Riviera GT in Cloverdale. Should be decent CrMo, Sugino cranks and Suntour stuff, most likely. Looks like it's got the 'Handmade by Kawamura' decal on the chainstay. Not a mixte/ladies' bike as such, but it's under 50cm (with zero headtube like in the picture, it couldn't be more than 48cm or so, I think they listed as 48 a while back, but no size in the current ad). $125:

https://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...694315268.html

Not as interesting (Golden Arrow is nice stuff, and that frame is nice too), and I do wonder why this one's been up for at least a month (but that might just be a seller out in Surrey who doesn't care to drive it into the city to give buyers a look at a time when not many are buying...).
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Hi-mangy, as used by the Japanese, is a steel alloy ranked between hi-tensile and chromium-molybdenum. It was found on upper entry level and lower mid-range models in the early to mid-1980s.

The Nishiki Riviera GT was a mid-1980s grand touring model. It has a Tange Infinity double butted main frame with hi-mangy forks (and almost certainly stays). It's nicely appointed with low-rider mounts on the forks, dual eyelets and dual bottle bosses. I can't see them in the pics but there should be rear rack mounts on the seat stays. . Unfortunately, one can't see the drivetrain components. Typically, you them equipped with LePree derailleurs, generally the 3 pulley version, which this one obviously doesn't have. Also, it looks like the shifters may be non-OEM and it's missing the spoke protector. Still, it's a nice bicycle, appears to be in good, clean condition and is being offered at a great price. I wonder way this hasn't sold?
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