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Old 12-08-11, 12:12 AM
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Need some info on Sun Mistral Rims

i'm looking at rims and stuff and deciding what i want to do with the current wheelset on my pinarello. they are shmano 105sc hubs that are laced to 32h sun mistral aerodynamic rims.

I'm debating on getting a wheelset with dura ace 7403 8 speed uniglide hubs and putting them on this bike or getting the wheelset relaced with 7403 hubs.

The current rims are those sun mistral aerodynamic rims. I was wondering if these were high end rims or mid range stuff, how they perform and if anyone has any experience with these. They are a dark/grey/beige color, they look kinda like the hard anodized color and have a little bit of an "aero" shape to them, they're not flat like mavic ma40 rims nor are they super aero like a set of campy shamals.

The local framebuilder bike shop says he'll take the old hubs out and relace them to the newer hubs for 40 dollars per wheel. At the same time he recommends that i should get new spokes as well, if i go with midrange stuff it should cost me an extra 26 bucks per wheel.

here's the pics, i just took them cause my bike is in my room for the winter so the first pic is a little dark but you can see the rim sticker and the profile in the second pic:





so i need some info on this:

1) info about sun mistral aerodynamic rim, high end, low end? handling, durability or experiences you've had, good or bad.

2) is 40 bucks to relace a wheel a decent price

3) if you relace a wheel should you replace all the spokes or can i reuse them? the spokes still look like they're in really good condition, no knicks or corroding or anything

4) should i just pay the 26 bucks extra per wheel for new spokes, is there a spoke you guys recommend if i do?

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Anyone use these?
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I have a mistral tubular wheelset that came on a '78 Raleigh Pro I bought. Not O/E of course. The guy I bought it from is a pretty serious and dedicated rider - or was back in the day. But in any case, the wheels do look like they had plenty of use (but not abuse - not rusty, etc) until the bike was retired from his rotation in the early 90's (after continuous upgrades), and remain nice and true.

Knowing his background, I doubt this owner would have had them laced to his rims had they been even mid-range.
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I remember the Sun rims as a new peoduct apearing on many bikes back in the mid 80's. Not sure if they were around before the mid 80's but they were kinda like the new kid in the block after the many years with quality bikes being supplied withthe typical French (Mavic, Wolber.....), Italian (Ambrosio, Nisi...), Swiss (Weinmann....) and Japanese rims (Araya...... What I remembered was, they were not as light as the French or Italian brands were, but their high quality was praised by many.
If you are asking whether Sun Mistral rims makes the cut on being a "respectable" C&V brand. I would say Yes! IIRC, Trek used Sun rims o a lot of their their bikes in the mid 80's. I don't think Trek will use them if they were junk....
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alright kool, thanks for the reply, what about pricing, is 40 bucks per wheel to relace a decent price?

and is it ok to reuse spokes if they're in good condition?
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These are pretty good rims. Just know that they won't look too great once the anno starts wearing. How about learning to build a wheel yourself? saves a lot of money and it is very useful knowledge.

I have reused spokes before without long-tern fail (on same and different hubs). During the settling period, I had to do frequent checkups to retrue and retension some parts... but after 2-3 they have become fully seated (and yes, I stress-relieve). Many do not recommend this (especially on different hubs). Make sure the measurements between hubs are the same.
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well i was thinking of this option, you could buy a nice truing stand for what this guy is asking for relacing my wheels, do you guys have a good link on a wheel building video?

or maybe recommend a good stand?
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