need help identifying
 

well i got this frame that i cant indentify.it has campagnolo 1010 dropouts front and rear with campagnolo cable guides on top of the bb.the only markings on it is 4034 on bottom of the bike usually where the serial number goes.i would upload pics but dont know how

Upload the pics to a poto hosting site like photobucket. That is what I use. Once they are uploaded, view the folder were they are stored and hover over the picture. Scroll down and click on [IMG] to copy the link. Then paste it in the reply box in the thread.

4034 is a type of crmo if I remember right, pics plz. Follow Realestvin's directions

TTT stem it looks like, to my eyes that looks like powdercoat like you said..ST DT shifters.. they don't appear to be power shift. The wrap around seatstay is interesting too and probably will be identifiable by someone with more knowledge then myself.

Edit: I dig your bike btw.

thats the bike.thanks for the help on how to upload pics realestvin7

thanks.yeah im having trouble trying to identify this frame i've seen some raleighs and other frames that have that similar look but not ha.yeah it has ttt stem and bar,shimano 600 brake levers,chris king sealed bearing headset,shimano DA brakes,sr laprade seatpost,first gen phil wood hubs,weinnman 27x11/4 rims,ta specialites crank,and stronglight competition bb.

I think I can fairly safely say, that is no Raleigh..do you have any shots of the derailers themselves? and are the brake levers branded?

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/...2-14121354.jpghttp://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/...2-14121459.jpghttp://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/...2-14121517.jpgthe rear derailler has an H on it and its made in france.the front one i took off for cleaning,and thats a suntour cyclone

okay I'm thinking italian or french, looks like it's had a long life already and lots of upgrades over the years..that RD is very cool and if I had to guess I'd say it's huret, and with the FD I'd probably guess that's a later day add on... are the brakes themselves also shimano 600?

oh and pictures from drive side are prefered.

no they're shimano dura ace....yeah im planning on taking it all apart and cleaning each single piece on the bike. i think it will look nice aha!

man.. that was someones baby I think, mind me asking how you got it?

got it off craigslist.

That's a bit of an eclectic component mix. First step would be to deterine the nationality. What are the thread markings on the bottom bracket cup? Seat tube outer diameter? Seat post size?

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1323896648and on the bottom bracket cup it says 1"37x24F stronglight competition.

OK boys and girls, we have English threading. Say goodbye to the French and Italians.

You suppose it's japanese?

Could be but I doubt it. The Japanese were pretty good about serialization and didn't use Camapagnolo dropouts very often. However, the post diameter will give us further clues.

Right now, I'm wondering if the brake cable tunnels and water bosses are a later addition, given the repaint and clamp style shifters in a very low position. I am thinking the frame was originally boom era.

yeah im not sure what the post diameter is

Sloping crown fork (if original) has me thinking that frame is later 70's rather than early 70's boom era. Sizing for 27" rims and the wrapover seatstay cap treatment makes me think that it likely is an American custom build frame rather than a production frame.

That has to be the lightest front dertailleur I've ever seen. :rolleyes:

TA crankset and Hurety Duopar RD? Nice....

I went back and checked out my metallurgical hanbooks. 4034 is not a standard steel designation. The closest standard designations are 4032 and 4037, so it does appear to be a serial number. The four character format would suggest a custom or cottage industry builder. The serialization could be sequential or coded. If coded, the common formats would be yxxx or xxxy, both of which would point towards 1974.

The English threading would suggest a UK or USA source as the most likely candidates. Check the seat post size and inside the bottom of the fork's steerer column for Columbus' helical ridges. If it turns out to be Columbus or Japanese tubing, it's more likely USA than UK. Reynolds could go either way.

well i checked the bottom of the forks steerer column nothing.and how would i go about measuring the seatpost?since that maybe that could help too.the guy i got it from said he picked it up in colorado,little bit more info you never know.