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Old 12-15-11, 05:45 PM
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Opinions on this dropout..

I have my opinion but I'd like to hear from you guys first....

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Old 12-15-11, 06:10 PM
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other than a little rust what are we looking for? was it heated at one time?
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It looks like it was re-welded hopelessly out of line with the chain stay.
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Old 12-15-11, 06:17 PM
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It's worn out on the inner upper side, so the locknut won't seat correctly. Probably bent axle.

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Old 12-15-11, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
It looks like it was re-welded hopelessly out of line with the chain stay.
Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
It's worn out, so the locknut won't seat correctly. Probably bent axle.
Good points...and I didnt even notice the work dropout face.
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Old 12-15-11, 06:30 PM
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If it was mine I would be replacing it due to the wear and what looks like a botched repair.
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Old 12-15-11, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
It looks like it was re-welded hopelessly out of line with the chain stay.
Is it really way out of alignment or is that a trick of the camera angle and the (correct) angle of the DO's slot? Jim can tell us, right?
Otherwise, I couldn't call this 'botched' without some more in-person examination.
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Old 12-15-11, 10:09 PM
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I agree with Unworthy1, but it seems pretty odvious to me that there has been some torque, applied to the dropout. There does not seem to be enough paint damage to be a re-braze unless it has been re-sprayed....in which case it is really messed up. It would nice to be able to see the other side (out-side face) of the dropout.
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Old 12-15-11, 10:11 PM
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Check the alignment. The picture does not inspire confidence.
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Old 12-16-11, 01:41 AM
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the other thing is: if this is a 1010B shorty Campy DO it's not the usual place where they crack, though I'm sure some do crack there, just not for me...yet...
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Old 12-16-11, 05:07 AM
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I have NOT seen the dropout in person, at the moment that pic is the only one I have bu I've requested hi-res images from both sides.

Here's my opinion:

There was some rust so the owner buzzed it with a grinder/sander which expalins the lack of chome and paint where there should be chrome and paint. I dont think it was broken and re-brazed. I think the alignments OK, its just an odd camera angle but the inner dropout face is messed up pretty good.

I'm waiting on the hi-res images.
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Old 12-16-11, 06:05 AM
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My pet saw, I must admit: always have an unknown frame checked for rear drop-out alignment by using the alignment bells. This does not come from some theory, but rather seeing the adjustments done on a number of frames. They can look aligned and not be so.

Whatever happened to it? Your grinder suggestion is as good as any. It does not look like a file or a slipped axle. The owner may need a longer axle that is perhaps cut — enough added on the end in order make up for the loss of contact. Either that or a frame-maker slips out the current part and brazes in another — perhaps a pair to match. My 2 cents ... for what its worth.
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Depends on the bike it's on
If it's on a Cinelli or Masi it's fixable
If it's a Schwinn varisity it is totally trashed.
Is that a crack along the upper part where it attaches to
the seatstay?
If the stays aren't overcooked might be a good candidate
for total replacement.

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Old 12-16-11, 12:51 PM
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I think it's a mess. It got damaged, it has been repaired badly, and... well, there may be more damage after the repair. I'm thinking the initial damage involved the chain getting jammed between the stay and the cog at fairly high speed, which suggests to me someone was riding it as a fixie. But what do I know.
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Old 12-16-11, 12:58 PM
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I keep expecting to see a pic of some 17 year old kid working on McDonald's. Not that all dropouts fail, like the Wright Brothers or Frank Loyd Wright or various hip hop artists.

I don't think this dropout will fail either, though it is pretty ugly.

Definitely an odd angle though.
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Old 12-16-11, 01:41 PM
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I vote "illusion". Shiz'll buff out. If miamijim is looking at it, it must be worth saving.
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