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Old 12-16-11, 02:44 PM
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What 3 Speed do I buy for my girl?

Hello trying to decide do I buy a...

Vintage 1970's Womens/Girls Bike Bicycle Raleigh
that is overpriced and will need work, I will try and it get under $200.
Do these bikes have aluminum wheels?
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...751645283.html

or just get a new BD Oxford and it'll just work, hopefully.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/oxford.htm
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I'm going to speak heresy for a moment. If it were me, and I were buying this for my wife and I were down to only these two choices, I'd get the bike from bikes direct. I personally am more attracted to the Raleigh, but it seems overpriced. My wife would prefer the pretty one.

Have you looked at any of the other options? If you haven't yet, go to lovely bicycle http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ and look at the links in the upper left side of the page. Read reviews and educate yourself.

Last, but most important: What does she want?
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You sure she wants a bike?
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
You sure she wants a bike?
Good point. I got my girlfriend an old 3 speed and she almost never rides it.

I think I agree with Jimmy, though. If you're sure she wants it, I'd get the new one. She'll probably be happier with it and it will be less work for you as well. I've seen some of those BD 3-speeds on the street and they look surprisingly nice for the cost. I like them better than the Linus bikes that cost twice as much.
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Originally Posted by BigPolishJimmy View Post
I'm going to speak heresy for a moment. If it were me, and I were buying this for my wife and I were down to only these two choices, I'd get the bike from bikes direct. I personally am more attracted to the Raleigh, but it seems overpriced. My wife would prefer the pretty one.

Have you looked at any of the other options? If you haven't yet, go to lovely bicycle http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ and look at the links in the upper left side of the page. Read reviews and educate yourself.

Last, but most important: What does she want?
+1 to the bold, unless she has a love of classic bikes go for the brand new one.
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Try to find a real 3-speed at a better price.
(It would be better to give her nothing than a BSO from BD)
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
Try to find a real 3-speed at a better price.
(It would be better to give her nothing than a BSO from BD)

BD bikes are generally fine. They are not nearly as bad as the BSO's you get at Walmart.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
BD bikes are generally fine. They are not nearly as bad as the BSO's you get at Walmart.
Worst thing I've heard about BD is you may have to play a game of ship the bike with them if it's worst case scenario.
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Thanks guys, yeah I don't think she has the crazed obsession with vintage as I do but likes the look, and I would like make her the perfect ride, I just don't have the time. I found myself a nice 80s univega grand primero in great condition a while back, and yes she likes to ride with me down at the beach, shes wants a cool looking bike basically, that fits with mine, she has a walmart mountain bike now.
I got her a beat up univega mixte but turned out it would cost/time too much to fix up when they have alternatives like the oxford and ultimately the vega was not her size. I think half of it is me wanting a vintage for her lol.
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There are some very nice Electras on our local CL. I've never ridden one, but I think they are pretty ("cool") from my girl perspective. I, on the other hand, would love that Superbe. It would have already been "deleted" here.

How much do you think shipping would be to the other side of the continent?
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I almost made this mistake when my gf and I were searching around for a good commuter for her couple weeks ago. We ended up skipping out on the CL fiascos and coming out of the LBS with a brand new bike. She loves it and shows every sign of remaining a lifelong cyclist. Had we gone the vintage route she may have enjoyed it as a hobby or she may have ended up hating it...along with ruining the cycling experience permanently for her.

Ten years of marriage taught me the lesson of making the mistake of: you think I'm cool and interesting + I think <thing> is cool and interesting = you will find <thing> cool and interesting, too.

That and as a man who probably does strange things for love interests it shouldn't surprise you that just because a woman tells you, "oh that looks....greeeeaaaaat" doesn't necessarily mean she's going to relish it


So my advice, along with the other married (or previously married) men, is to go with new unless *she* specifically generated the idea that she wants something along the lines of what you're considering buying her.

PS, oh one other thing to consider: "women's" geometry, until very recently, meant making a bar that sloped low enough to not hang their dresses and seats were designed by male engineers who probably had very little knowledge about the butts under those female dresses. Whereas now top tier companies are paying attention to a huge market and science and social mores are more in sync with the reality that women's bodies are functionally and structurally different than men's bodies. (keeping in mind that those companies also now make sizes catering to more men than just small, medium, and large).

All of this adds up to the fact that a mixte or whatever is not going to ride like a modern frame/seat designed specifically for a female body even if that bike is entry level quality.

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The Raleigh's a nice bike, but $275 is way too much. Seller says it's a Superbe, but there's no Dynohub or lights. Go for the BD bike unless you can get the Raleigh below $200 -- even that sees high to me, but maybe your local market is different from mine.
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Go with the BD bike, that Raleigh is waaaay overpriced in ANY market. FWIW my bride had a very nice 21 speed GT Windstream that she rode occasionally. We "won" a Raleigh Colt at the ABCE in 2006, we added a wicker basket and it became her favorite bike, she now has two Colts and a Twenty!

BTW I personally LOVE Raleighs but I would not pay that price for one, this coming from a guy that has 30+ bikes with about half of them being British three speeds.

FWIW it is a Superbe, it has the fork lock, B66 saddle and matching rack, but for some reason is missing the dynohub and lights (I am not sure all Superbe's came with that or not)

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I'm with the others; that Raleigh is too much money.

I'd go with the BD bike, if she's not worried about the vintage-ness of the bike and only cares about the look.

I have a '63 BSA (a Raleigh Industries bike) that has been resto-modded with all modern components and SS drivetrain. It rides so nice and effortlessly. My GF took it out a few weeks ago and I'm, now, putting together a '63 Phillips (another RI bike) for her. She wouldn't dare ride the BD bike, because it's a knockoff. She has modern, carbon stuff to ride, too. But, she almost always pulls out her 20 year old MTB, for around town stuff. I'm, also, building her a '72 Schwinn Suburban, too. She just likes the old stuff. I guess what I'm getting at is that you need to figure out what kind of bike gal you have.
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+1 to the bold, unless you have a love of fixing vintage bikes go for the brand new one.
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I'd make sure there was some jewelry to go with the bike if your talking Christmas gift. I have found that: appliances, sporting goods, cutlery, shrubs, radial tires, Bicycles, thermal underwear, fire & police scanners, CB radios, remote starters, jumper cables, a seriously fine looking storm door,wall to wall carpeting, 257 piece Craftsman tool set, Granite counter tops and such are generally not the best gifts for GF's or wives. Just something to think about.
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I'd make sure there was some jewelry to go with the bike if your talking Christmas gift. I have found that: appliances, sporting goods, cutlery, shrubs, radial tires, Bicycles, thermal underwear, fire & police scanners, CB radios, remote starters, jumper cables, a seriously fine looking storm door,wall to wall carpeting, 257 piece Craftsman tool set, Granite counter tops and such are generally not the best gifts for GF's or wives. Just something to think about.
I don't know. I bought mine a cyclocross bike for her birthday. She was beside herself, with excitement. On any ride, outside of city errands, that's what she takes. Her attitude about jewelry is "Don't waste your money, I won't wear it". OK, more bikes, then.
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yeah ducnut but you already established that your gf is "weird"

unique in a very cool way in this context of cyclists but certainly not the norm when it comes to women

"I guess what I'm getting at is that you need to figure out what kind of bike gal you have." < I would amend this to *she* needs to figure out what kind of bike gal she is if he (or any guy) is trying to get a woman into cycling.

Most of us wouldn't even blink twice if we mentioned we'd need to put our butts in a dozen or more saddles before deciding on the next bike. And we'd balk like an unbroken horse if someone said just have our buddy pick one out and drop it off.
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"Lovely Bicycle" is a terrific site and far more interesting that BD. If she's not saying, "I'd love to have one of those Rivendells." virtual is probably not the best route. Go touch and ride real bikes.

There are lots of us weird ones out there. We have lots of bicycles and multiple sets of wheels. I'd love to take your girlfriend shopping, but we'd need a much bigger budget!
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Her attitude about jewelry is "Don't waste your money, I won't wear it".
10:1, that blows up in your face 25 years from now
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>.> That's no fix, do you not have a woman? It's always all about HER.
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Well, if she really wants a bike and she's not just saying that, the two most important factors are size and color. Size is most important. She make think color is. Don't argue with that, if it doesn't fit, find a problem with that bike and move on to the next one.
$275 is huge money for an old Raleigh. Wait for one at $150, a good one, with good tires.
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