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Old 12-18-11, 03:43 PM
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New Peugeot sales record?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250951770126...84.m1438.l2649

$527!!! Yikes...I only bid about $200

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Old 12-18-11, 04:14 PM
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What's up with that???
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Old 12-18-11, 04:25 PM
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That was one of their mid 80's (1985 as I belive the '86 version came with Columbus tubes...I do not recall about the '87 and the '88 never existed) race frames. THAT once came with Campy SR. The blue version of it came speced french (Mavic mostly). It is a fair price. The Vitus 980 tubed bikes were one level below these, also came with Campy drivetrains (Triomphe and Victory), were about $500 less expensive and actually weighed about .5-1 pound less. Thus the Vitus tubed PSN10's are not that uncommon, but these buggers are.
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Old 12-18-11, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by balindamood View Post
That was one of their mid 80's (1985 as I belive the '86 version came with Columbus tubes...I do not recall about the '87 and the '88 never existed) race frames. THAT once came with Campy SR. The blue version of it came speced french (Mavic mostly). It is a fair price. The Vitus 980 tubed bikes were one level below these, also came with Campy drivetrains (Triomphe and Victory), were about $500 less expensive and actually weighed about .5-1 pound less. Thus the Vitus tubed PSN10's are not that uncommon, but these buggers are.
Peugeot used Reynolds 531 through 1996 and through at least 1989 in the U.S. What unique about the ebay frame is the size....54cm frames were only offered in that model.
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Old 12-18-11, 05:25 PM
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Peugeot used Reynolds 531 through 1996 and through at least 1989 in the U.S.
Correct, but they had started to drop the high end stuff by 1989 (I do not recall an 531 model in '89...but my memory is fading). The rainbow decalls indicate an ;85-88 model though. The only 531 I recall was the PX-10 in '85 and maybe '86, but they then changed to Columbus for 1-2 years. They did continue to you a bunch of 501 though.
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Old 12-18-11, 06:14 PM
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I dunno. What's so out of line with that price? I don't think they slapped these frames out in high volume, so while it may not be rare, it's kinda-sorta special, n'est-ce pas?
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Old 12-18-11, 07:10 PM
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Followed that auction too, but I'm not surprised this one went so high when a lot of French C&V stuff had been going up through the roof in price recently.
The price is pretty high considering that it's only a frameset.
I suspect it was more of an emotional based "grail bike" aquisition by the auction winner than speculation, and there's nothing basically wrong with that...as I suspect many of us had done that before too.

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Old 12-18-11, 07:19 PM
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I wonder which forum member just purchased the bike. With that said, it does appear to be a very nice frame if you're into the go fast thing.
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Old 12-18-11, 07:46 PM
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There were Columbus Tubes in the 80's. The '89 Dolomite was one of them. I don't recall ever seeing a columbus tubed peugeot prior to 88 or 89 in any catalogs.
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What model code is this frame, Jim?

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This is the complete bike its not mine and dont know the year, was called the Aneto CFX10 and had a 105 groupo.
My 1990 or 91 pug MTB has 531 All Terrain tubing.


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1985-87 PZ10's were 531 (with Campagnolo), the former being black (like the one sold), and the latter two being a champagne-type color. The 86-87 PX10's were blue with Mavic components (there is one on Ebay right now). The shop I worked in dropped Peugeot after 1988, and I spent more time sawing aluminum Galaxies in two, swapping them for Triathalons, than I did selling Pugs.

FWIW, I bought an '87 PSN 10 because we could not get the PZ10 in my size. They were on back order from they first day they started taking orders, and I am not sure that they ever showed up in a 58 cm anywhere.
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Old 12-19-11, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
What model code is this frame, Jim?

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It varies with the maarket. In 1985 it was a PX in the U.K and France and a PZ in the U.S., There was no PX in the U.S. for '85. In the U.S. SLX bikes became PX's and while 531P remained PZ's. In Europe it appears 531 bikes remained PX's. By '89/'90 they were getting away from the codes and going by model names.

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Old 02-10-12, 07:39 AM
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I found your pz10 58cm sr groupo- 1985 in 1987 for 900.00 bucks looking for decals ! bobby222 ps i know its a little late just found thread
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I think it is a lovely frame, in very nice condition, a desirable model. I can't afford $500 for just a frame, but if I had, let's say, 3X my current income, and if I'd also lusted after one of these as a small boy in short pants, then I could see myself tossing out $500 for it, sure.
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I hate those graphics so much that I wouldn't own one.
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All the really nice stuff is starting to take off in price. I watch Nishiki prices and have been amazed at what some mid-level bikes are bringing. The old days when you sold a vintage road bike for $100 are pretty much gone unless it's a Huffy or department store bike.
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Originally Posted by balindamood View Post
Correct, but they had started to drop the high end stuff by 1989 (I do not recall an 531 model in '89...but my memory is fading). The rainbow decalls indicate an ;85-88 model though. The only 531 I recall was the PX-10 in '85 and maybe '86, but they then changed to Columbus for 1-2 years. They did continue to you a bunch of 501 though.
FYI, The Metallic black/rainbow band scheme first came out in 84......Could it also be an 84?
I was also watching that UK auction and I did expect it to take off as there was a previous "pro" framed Peugeot that was sold for over 1.5K which also surprised everyone. This one looks pretty good except for some areas near the BB between the chainstays that either looked like it had quite a bit of rust inder the paint, or it also could have been just a thick coating of grease.

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I hate those graphics so much that I wouldn't own one.
I never really liked the graphics either. Who the heck in Peugeot thought that those color bands look good. I can live with the black metallic paint and the Peugeot lettering in bold white, but I really wished they just stayed with pearl white and checkerboards with their bikes back then....The graphics and colors did not get any better after the 80's either...

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The paint schemes went downhill after 1983. The 1980-83 checkerboard schemes were really nice and then some graphic artist decided to throw in rainbows for not particular reason and ruin it. The demise of Simplex, MAFAC, Maillard, Atax, and movement away from lugged frames around the same time obliterated all the class and national character of Peugeots. Italy and Japan are really the only countries producing bikes of national character anymore. Even the Dutch are subcontracting so much out now that the novelty isn't the same.
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I never really liked the graphics either. Who the heck in Peugeot thought that those color bands look good. I can live with the black metallic paint and the Peugeot lettering in bold white, but I really wished they just stayed with pearl white and checkerboards with their bikes back then....The graphics and colors did not get any better after the 80's either...

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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
Nyehhh.....Thanks Jim, but no dice on that one....I wouldn't ever want a "tail dragger" Peugeot anyway.

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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
"tail dragger"

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What u mean?
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
What u mean?
Uhmmm...notice the TT angle??.....
It's my personal term for compact frames....


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Oik! I just found out that the auction for an Peugeot Aneto frame I was watching was a different one and is still not done!
Another chance for a higher record price??

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