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Old 12-18-11, 08:12 PM
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1962 Campagnolo hub with sticker over oil hole

I have a Campy record hub dated '62 form the locknuts. it has a green and red striped sticker around the center, where the oil clip normally goes. I think there is an oil port under there, but I'm not sure. If not, then I was thinking it might be a track hub with a QR axle added. Has anyone seen a sticker like that? I don't want to remove it if it is original.

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Nope. Previous owner probably lost the clip and covered the oil port with a handy sticker.
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This doesn't look like a Record hub. Is there a Campagnolo world logo in the center?
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I have a couple of Record small flange hubs that have world champion stripe stickers similarly situated. One is barely visible in this photo. I haven't looked at the date on them but suspect they are from '70 based on the other components on the bike. Don't think there are oil ports underneath, but the large flange hubs that came with the same bike do have ports and clips.
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Not original, but a damn good idea if you can't find a proper clip.
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Originally Posted by MetinUz View Post
This doesn't look like a Record hub. Is there a Campagnolo world logo in the center?
Yup - "Campagnolo RECORD", and it looks otherwise identical to a later record 70's HF hub I have.
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I should note that I've owned the bike and small flange hubs I mentioned in my previous post since 1973 or 74 and the rainbow stripes were in place when I acquired it/them.
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Guys removed the oil port and placed a band of some sort to be different, not have to keep the oil port clean, tell there wheel set apart in the following van, ecause they lost one in the garage and it was Sunday night.
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What is the real use of hub "oil holes" anyway. I never understood the idea (and I have a few bikes with oil holes and clips). I just take the hub apart, clean and regrease when needed.
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What is the real use of hub "oil holes" anyway. I never understood the idea (and I have a few bikes with oil holes and clips). I just take the hub apart, clean and regrease when needed.
It's for using a grease injector (Small Grease Gun). I grease all my Campy hubs that way.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo View Post
It's for using a grease injector (Small Grease Gun). I grease all my Campy hubs that way.
Right - I think the theory is you inject fresh grease from the center, and it pushes out the older, and dirtier grease through the hole in the dust cap.
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Just passing this along from a knowledgeable guy over on the Classic Rendezvous list when the subject of oil ports on head tubes and BB's came up. He said the oil holes in Campy hubs were based on the same theory as the "grease" nipples on frames. He claimed that grease in those days was not as advanced as it is today and would congeal and harden up, especially over the winter months. The ports were used to inject a few drops of oil into the hubs to sort of "re-activate" the grease and get it flowing again, as a stop-gap measure, extending times between hub overhauls. FWIW, of course.

BTW, if that is a '62 hub, I find it just a bit surprising it has "Record" embossed on the barrel. But the Record stamp is probably not one of those things that can accurately be used for dating.
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The locknuts actually are dated 63 - (I misremembered), and of course could not be original to the hub. When would the "record" have started? I'm kinda new to this. Thanks.
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The locknuts actually are dated 63 - (I misremembered), and of course could not be original to the hub. When would the "record" have started? I'm kinda new to this. Thanks.
I think that might be a subject for debate, and maybe nobody knows for sure. I have a set with 63 lock nuts, which I know for sure are original to the hubs, with no "Record" stamp on them. It's an interesting detail, but doesn't matter a whole lot I suppose. I think the little striped band looks kind of cool.
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What is the real use of hub "oil holes" anyway. I never understood the idea (and I have a few bikes with oil holes and clips). I just take the hub apart, clean and regrease when needed.
Back then grease was not as stable as now and would separate more easily -- the oil component would leak out leaving only the soap behind. Adding oil through the port would restore the grease without needing to open the hub and repacking.
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The locknuts actually are dated 63 - (I misremembered), and of course could not be original to the hub. When would the "record" have started? I'm kinda new to this. Thanks.
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I think that might be a subject for debate, and maybe nobody knows for sure. I have a set with 63 lock nuts, which I know for sure are original to the hubs, with no "Record" stamp on them. It's an interesting detail, but doesn't matter a whole lot I suppose. I think the little striped band looks kind of cool.
Record was added to the shell for the 1964 model year and were first seen at the October 1963 trade shows. In order to have bicycles ready for the new calendar year most manufacturers start building for the new models around September. Component manufacturers often start several months in advance of that, to have the parts ready for the bicycle manufacturers. Consequently, it's very common to find old and new styles both built in the same year.

On top of that there's the issue of stock rotation. Many companies did not employ a rigid policy of using up the old stock first. An employee would place a new bin of parts in front of the old bin to save the work of switching the bins. Or he would dump new parts into a bin, on top of old parts. Both practices could result in old parts 'finding their way out of the woodwork' long after the introduction of the new part.
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